What can I take that's natural for major anxiety that works for a girl sway

Atomic, I am really hoping you see this. So I have been swaying since May 15 and the longer I stay on Le diet, the more I feel like I am suffering from anxiety. What can I do or take that won't affect my sway. I have been taking a multi vitamin 3 X a week as you had previously suggested but I feel like my anxiety as gone into over drive lately. I have seen that magnesium is supposed to help but not sure if that's a good option. I feel like my gut needs a good cleanse, what can u suggest as I don't think a probiotic is good for pink? Please can send me the link or tell me where to find your AFD diet which you had said might be a better option for me when u first wrote my original plan, but I thought Le was so much easier to do, so I chose that option. I honestly feel my body won't allow me to get pregnant and that I need to switch diet plans.

I know I am ovulating as I get a temp shift, 12lp, periods are normal. I have been using opks, doing the deed at +opk, everything seems perfect, but I just don't seems to fall pregnant. Having had Graves before, I get my thyroid checked every 3 months and it's normal range.

I really need to know what you suggest for anxiety that works for a girl sway as I really don't want to destroy all the months of hard work I have put in.

Thanks very much and if anyone else has any advise I am happy to hear it. Thanks

Pink Pony,

No real advice, just commiseration. I've been experiencing anxiety (and depression) since going on the LE diet too, compounded exponentially by recent unexpected financial issues. I've gone on Ativan, because it was getting to the point that I couldn't function properly. I'm on a low dose, and only using it when I really need it, before ovulation. I think it probably sways pink, too.

As far as natural methods of anxiety help go, meditation and guided imagery have helped me a lot in the past.

I've chosen to stick it out on the LE diet, because this is the last child we plan on having, and I really want to give swaying a good shot. I'm giving it until Christmas, and if I'm not pregnant by then, screw it, I'm swaying blue. :giggle:

I've been doing some reading and discovered that both low-protein and vegetarian diets are associated with an increased risk of mental health issues, as are blood sugar issues, so it makes sense that this would happen to those of us who might already have tendencies or vulnerabilities in this direction. Hope you feel better soon. :hug2:

Yes, you need to be on AFD for a variety of reasons and you can read about that here, 5 from the top (follow the directions for those who are swaying in pink letters) http://genderdreaming.com/forum/gend...rt-3-pcos.html

Yes, go ahead and add in a SMALL dose of magnesium (and this may also help "clean the pipes" as well). No probiotics.

Can you tell me everything else you're doing? Would cutting back on caffeine help?

Are you doing alcohol? This sounds terrible but alcohol has been very helpful for me to reduce anxiety that was quite bad when I was younger. It takes the edge off and just puts everything into perspective somehow.

If you are having trouble sleeping, either melatonin or valerian can be helpful. Don't do melatonin every day or when pregnant, though as it can be harmful then.

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Pink Pony,

No real advice, just commiseration. I've been experiencing anxiety (and depression) since going on the LE diet too, compounded exponentially by recent unexpected financial issues. I've gone on Ativan, because it was getting to the point that I couldn't function properly. I'm on a low dose, and only using it when I really need it, before ovulation. I think it probably sways pink, too.

As far as natural methods of anxiety help go, meditation and guided imagery have helped me a lot in the past.

I've chosen to stick it out on the LE diet, because this is the last child we plan on having, and I really want to give swaying a good shot. I'm giving it until Christmas, and if I'm not pregnant by then, screw it, I'm swaying blue. :giggle:

I've been doing some reading and discovered that both low-protein and vegetarian diets are associated with an increased risk of mental health issues, as are blood sugar issues, so it makes sense that this would happen to those of us who might already have tendencies or vulnerabilities in this direction. Hope you feel better soon. :hug2:

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Remember, ladies, there is a LOT of wiggle room between being strict LE and swaying blue. I get that this was meant in jest but I see tons of people go on too long swaying too hard, and then dropping everything all at once and swaying blue. Just gradually relax on everything bit by bit over time and then you'll end up getting pregnant when your body is able to, without going 180 degrees the other direction. it's like turning a radio dial, you do it in increments looking for the station you like to listen to that will be somewhere in the middle of 88 and 108.

Thanks Atomic and Serenity. Atomic, I have 2 coffees in the morning with 60mls of full cream milk. Then maybe another 2 black coffees. No sugar in black coffee. Drink white wine every night. Minimum of 1 glass, sometimes 2. I woke up from 2 am onwards and my brain goes into over drive. Would u suggest I ask the GP for a low dose for anxiety, cause this is what I was thinking. I came across the more natural stuff on Pinterest. I have slowly eased up on the diet. I like the Le, but of late things with my anxiety are getting out of hand. It's not stress, it's over thinking things that I can't control and I know that, but it doesn't stop from brain from thinking about them.

I will switch to the AFD diet option, I feel my body needs it. I just don't want to screw up all the work I have done with my pink sway, it means everything to me. I am only drinking coffee, alcohol and force myself to drink water. Jam toast after 10:30. Crackers or leftover veg dinner from night before for lunch, but it's a very small meal and then a normal dinner, less meat, only have it 2 a week. Have eggs too.

I need to know.. I have been having white bread but going to switch as before I only ever ate multigrain. Should I have multigrain or whole meal? That's what we get here in Australia. Thanks

Cutting out coffee/caffeine can help anxiety. Alcohol is also better avoided when you have anxiety. Unfortunately those are both good girl sway factors but avoided them won't automatically sway boy.

Sorry you feel this way... anxiety sucks :( something that has worked for me in the past is hypnosis. I found it really relaxing and was able to cope with my anxiety much better.

Atomic, I see that the AFD is no wheat. Can we eat Rye bread toasted?

If I don't eat fish, can I have she'll fish ( prawns) and calamari?
Stick with white chicken only.
Have white rice and potatos?


Still eat poached eggs and salads? Am I on the right track with these feeds? No beans? Thanks

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This is the multi I take 3 X a week

Pinkpony just out of curiosity has dh had a SA?

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No he hasn't. I might ask my GP for a referral to get it done. He is 44 already, so I guess that could also be a factor. Whilst he has agreed 100% to allow me to sway, I am not too sure if he would be to happy if the problem lay in his department, don't think he would be too keen to get anything done... Not that I even know what gets done. If he just had to take something that would be fine but if it was more than that, he would can the whole thing. He has been taking, a calcium, magnesium and zinc vitamins drink every morning. He gave up on ole.

What's really good for anxiety and a good gut cleanse is homemade kefir ... I know Atomic doesn't recommend the tablet form of a probiotic but this is a probiitic yoghurt which I believe is ok and also contains magnesium. Also I have recently read that the lactic acid in homemade Kefir actually sways pink ... Correct me if I'm wrong Atomic. Hope u feel better soon x

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Thanks Amelia10. I have seen keffir recommend, but it sounds like it like thick sour milk and that makes my stomach curdle.

I honestly think, with the more reading I do that I am suffering from adrenal fatigue, which could explain my thyroid issues that appeared out of know where a while back.

My concern is that adrenal fatigue is corrected through diet. Not sure how I will manage this. I am doing the AFD diet now, as of yesterday as I think my body needs nourishment badly. All my signs point to adrenal fatigue so I am hoping atomic might have something to suggest that could help.

I dont want to ruin my sway, even though it has been detrimental to my health and I can't even get pregnant at this stage. I just don't want to nourish it too much that it favours boy.... It's a fine line.

Bumping - for a reply from Atomic Please, just encase it got overlooked as I know you are very busy and don't always continue to read older threads. Thanks Atomic

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Originally Posted by Pink Pony

Thanks Atomic and Serenity. Atomic, I have 2 coffees in the morning with 60mls of full cream milk. Then maybe another 2 black coffees. No sugar in black coffee. Drink white wine every night. Minimum of 1 glass, sometimes 2. I woke up from 2 am onwards and my brain goes into over drive. Would u suggest I ask the GP for a low dose for anxiety, cause this is what I was thinking. I came across the more natural stuff on Pinterest. I have slowly eased up on the diet. I like the Le, but of late things with my anxiety are getting out of hand. It's not stress, it's over thinking things that I can't control and I know that, but it doesn't stop from brain from thinking about them.

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Some people find that alcohol makes them wake up in the middle of the night. I would try dropping the alcohol in this case (even though it does tend to relax me, that's only when I'm actively feeling anxious, and not the waking at 2 kind of thing that alcohol may contribute to.)

aRe you exercising?? If not, I want you to, even if it is only moderate.

Yes I'd cut back on caff as well.

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Originally Posted by Pink Pony

I will switch to the AFD diet option, I feel my body needs it. I just don't want to screw up all the work I have done with my pink sway, it means everything to me. I am only drinking coffee, alcohol and force myself to drink water. Jam toast after 10:30. Crackers or leftover veg dinner from night before for lunch, but it's a very small meal and then a normal dinner, less meat, only have it 2 a week. Have eggs too.

I need to know.. I have been having white bread but going to switch as before I only ever ate multigrain. Should I have multigrain or whole meal? That's what we get here in Australia. Thanks

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Do you have totals for your calories, protein and fat?? That would be very helpful.

Re the no wheat on AFD idea - you have to understand that some people are on AFD because they need to boost their fertility and/or have moderate to severe PCOS. People who are on it for other reasons can get away with the wheat, although you may want to eat considerably less of it.

Something else that has occured to me is Splenda or sucralose. If you are having that, I found it gave me very strange anxiety attacks just out of the blue after I had it (never had them before or since) and I can actually tell minutes after I've ingested it because it just makes me super jittery. Check the labels because they are putting it in tons of stuff nowadays.

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Bumping - for a reply from Atomic Please, just encase it got overlooked as I know you are very busy and don't always continue to read older threads. Thanks Atomic

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Bumping your post makes it take longer because I read posts from oldest to newest and so when you bump, it goes to the newest part and I don't catch up to it. Give me a week before bumping and that will get your quickest reply. :)

To answer your question, kefir or other probiotic yogurt thing is fine. Do I think it's a magic cureall, no. Things you eat are NOT the same as probiotics in pill form and are ok to do on LE Diet. My advice is to have a full fat yogurt with natural microbes in it daily (this will count as one serving of full fat dairy, which helps boost your fertility.

Please don't go onto some kind of hokey "adrenal fatigue" diet. There is zero evidence that this is even a thing, endocrinologists who know everything there is to know about it will say point blank it is not a thing, it was made up by one single chiropractor in 1998 and is not the result of any medical research whatsoever, and if you do have something seriously wrong with your hormones you need to go to a doctor for actual tests instead of going off these vague descriptions on websites that could apply to anyone. Most of the people who promote adrenal fatigue are selling you stuff.

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Originally Posted by Pink Pony

Atomic, I see that the AFD is no wheat. Can we eat Rye bread toasted?

If I don't eat fish, can I have she'll fish ( prawns) and calamari?
Stick with white chicken only.
Have white rice and potatos?


Still eat poached eggs and salads? Am I on the right track with these feeds? No beans? Thanks

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white rice and potatoes are well tolerated by most people and don't affect fertility negatively according to a good body of research.

If you're being strict on AFD you'd also avoid Rye (most rye bread has wheat flour in it as well). The whole grains (wheat, rye, and brown rice, in particular) have chemistry in them that may be harmful to you when eaten to excess (this is how they fight off insects and keep their seeds from being eaten) But again, you're doing this primarily to feel better and not because you ahve some issue with PCO or lower egg quality and you have more leeway than others.

Eggs and salads are great!

Beans and Peas again, have chemistry in them that may be harmful. What the purpose of AFD is, is to minimize or eliminate as much as we can of things that have possibly detrimental effects on the body in favor of things that seem to be beneficial or neutral. you need protein, fat, and GOOD carbs in order to get pregnant so that's what we focus on, while eliminating things that have a reputation for being possibly harmful.

The most important thing I want to stress to you is that you need to be getting enough calories, protein, and fat. Above all else, you need calories (from carbs!) and fat to get and stay pregnant. So please do not get so hung up on "magic foods" that you lose sight of the forest for the trees here...

Thanks so much Atomic :)

I don't have totals as I gave up counting because I have been on this diet for so long. I don't exercise, but have decided to get up early and start power walking as I just don't have the energy to run, so will start off with the walking, but will do it for an hour. Could be good for my sanity.

I have been doing the alcohol since day 1, so I don't think that's what wakes me up as it would have started from the beginning. I gave up on fake sugars. I have half a brown sugar in each coffee with milk and non in my black coffee.

I think I will just ask my GP for something to relax me more so I stop over thinking everything. Might also ask GP if I can get hubby semen tested too, just to check on those swimmers.

Will stop googling now and just get on with things, fingers crossed it happens soon.

So I have just come back from my GP and she has put me on Sertraline 50mg to start, then review after a month.

Any advice on how this antidepressant drug sways? Has anyone successfully got a girl while taking antidepressants? Not that I would really want to take them any more if I became pregnant.

Deep down, I know my anxiety is derived from wanting a daughter so bad, it affects everything in my life. I just don't want to be a failure, which puts even more pressure on my desire. It sucks!!

That is Zoloft which is what I was on. I think antidepressants sway pink.

I was on about 50mg or 25mg when I conceived DS2 but I wasn't swaying at all. It is considered to be safe to take in pregnancy, and 50mg is a pretty low dose. It you do want to wean when pregnant then drop to 25mg for a few weeks and then do it every other day. It gives weird side effects if you stop to suddenly (feels like brain zaps).

Just be prepared for some increased anxiety when you start taking it but it does start to help :) Good luck!

Thanks Purple. I have been reading horror stories linked to autism and now feel terrified to start them. I just couldn't deal with a special needs child on top of the anxiety I have. I admire parents who do, they are so strong. I have been on a low dose of antidepressants when I was in my 20's, but never while actively trying for a baby. Oh man, I wish I could find a safer option I feel comfortable with.. I am feeling really scared now. My GP said it was safer for someone to be on them if they were suffering from anxiety, then for someone not to be when pregnant, because pregnancy comes with all its own issues too.

I am going to finish this cycle before starting them. I know my anxiety gets so much worse in the tww.

Do u still take them? How did you gets past your anxiety and get your girl purple.

I think everything is said to cause autism these days. I have even read articles suggesting ultrasounds cause it too but I really think the higher rates of autism are due to better awareness and support.

I wasn't taking it when I was pregnant with DS1 and he has high function autism. I took the medication all through DS2's pregnancy and he doesn't have autism. While we do have some extra challenges with DS1 he isn't that much more difficult than other kids, although we are probably lucky his is fairly mild.

Currently I'm not taking anything, I have been off them for about 3 years. Keeping up with regular exercise really helped my mental health. Anxiety for me tends to happen when I have big changes in my life or am worried about something major in the future.

It is up to you what you decide to do but I know it did affect my cycles and delayed ovulation so it was important for me to avoid anxiety when ttc. I would take it again if I needed it.

^^^^^^^ This x a million!

They have no idea what causes autism! Trust me if it was as easy as "zoloft = autism" they'd have cracked that nut already. I know tons and tons of people who lived like vegetarian nuns during pregnancy and have autistic kiddos. In the meantime I worked at a dog kennel and washed dogs with pesticide soap all day while a crop duster passed by overhead dousing the field next door(for realz, not making that up) for the whole first tri of one of my pregnancies and he's totally normal.

Antidepressants seem to all sway pink.

Thanks for the reassurance Atomic x