Dissapointing 12w scan

Title say it all, actually I'm devastated and need some positive thoguhts...

Went today at 13+w (by my dates, lmp/conception) for my NT scan. Didn't start well as she said my womb is tilted right back into my spine. I have a retroverted uterous and have often had to have vaginal scans but its never proved to be a huge issue. She said that due to my scar tissue and tilted uterous she couldn't check the baby sufficiently but I suspect she didn't actually want to say "because your fat". Ive always been a normal BMI in past pregnancies but not this time. She said I'm measuring 13w and asked if she could do a vaginal scan. I was quite prepared so agreed.

She was huffing and puffing about and had to press the wand right in and back, very uncomfy and I could see that the position of the baby was terrible. It was facing toward my coccyx with only back of the head and back showing with an occasional glimpse of a limb as it was kicking. She was moving the wand all about and it was very painful. She then moved and I seen a potty shot (very girly) and she moved to the other side. Long and short of it is she couldn't do the NT measurement and because of this it is NHS policy not to do the NIPT for downs, edwards and pataus either. She kept saying she couldn't check face or any features but could see a heart beat. I asked about a re scan but she said NHS don't rescan for the NT/dating. I didn't even get a photo :( I'm totally gutted. Ive always been able to have the screening and bought the lovely pictures. Its more the uncertainty. Then to add insult to my injury ive been moved back a full week meaning if that's right ive conceived at least 5 days after the last sex. now I know everyone is going to quote me that shettles is disproven but I'm sure you can imagine how I'm feeling about the whole thing. Unable to do the genetic screening and now also looking more girly by the second. That due date is gospel now as they wont change it.

the only thing the NHS could offer was the quadruple test at 17w then by time I get results, have an amnio (if needed) and get results I will be pushing 19w. Given my age and the fact that ive had a high risk result previously I had a total meltdown. Ive just been to have the harmony test privately (at a great expense), thankfully they fit me in within an hour, so I will get the result in 7-10 days but I'm just distraught. Worried about the screening, knowing its unlikely to be a boy and having my due date moved by so much and not even having a photo of my baby. Its just not been a good day and my hormones are making me cry uncontrollably. Nobody even knows I'm pregnant yet so I have just got to put this brave face on and get on with it. Anyones advice, words of wisdom or similar experiences much appreciated. Thanks you

I'm sorry. I wish they would have treated you with more empathy. Good call on getting the harmony test done. No need for you to worry unnecessarily.

Thanks. I know its so silly as I hadn't give it a second thought till today. But because they couldn't do the tests it immediately hit me that if theres anything wrong I wont find out till its almost too late. I'm one of them that needs to know. At last my minds took of my gender nerves for now.....

I'm sorry to hear you've had a rough day. I thought at this gestation what's between their legs is all much of a likeness? At least the harmony will give you definitive result on all aspects. Big hugs xx

They do and they don't 3. It's all about white lines which admittedly weren't 100% clear. Girls have 3 adjacent white lines. Boys have one. Its too early to definativly base it on that but it looked very girly to me! Will know soon enough anyhow

Sending hugs, so sorry for how things went today, but at least with the harmony your guaranteed answers soon, x o

Thanks x

Just wanted to send you a cyber hug. Fingers crossed baby is healthy and that you are blessed with your boy.

Sorry you weren't treated very well. Why did they move your dates if she said you were measuring 13w?

I'm not sure how reliable a potty shot is yet? I hope you get the harmony results back quickly!

Hi purple. They measured 13w exactly on the abdo scan. Which is possible if ov was delayed a day or two. But when they done the internal scan which she said was more reliable they measured it at 12+2. Thanks so do I x

At 11+6 2 different pregnancies babies had very flat straight nubs. I know everyone says at that stage you just can't tell but I do think there is such a thing as too flat. 3 girls later I am very familiar with what a girlie min and potty shot looks like at 12 weeks and I think you are too. I really hope because of everything going on that you just didn't get a good enough look, and so very sorry you didn't get a picture cause how else do we bond with the babies at this point? I don't know where you live exactly baby but if there is a serious deformity I think most places allow termination at any gestation. I think it's just a regular abortion for no medical cause that has 'limits' legally...

Potty shot at 13 weeks is useless, it doesn't show you gender until a few weeks later.

I agree it sounds like an awful experience and I'm so sorry you had to go through all that.

I know nothing I say will make you feel better but I got two of my boys with a very long cutoff!

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Thanks. I know its so silly as I hadn't give it a second thought till today. But because they couldn't do the tests it immediately hit me that if theres anything wrong I wont find out till its almost too late. I'm one of them that needs to know. At last my minds took of my gender nerves for now.....

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They do medical terminations at any point they are needed.

Thanks atomic. I just don't know how I got a +hpt at 3dpo? That's what's baffling me if what they say is right and I didn't o till CD 21 odd.

I realise they do medical terminations at any point but due to the fact my cervix is basically tight shut and the angle and severe retroverted womb doesn't help (beleive me nobody can get in I've had to have local anasthetic for smears and after 3 attempts they told me I can't have a coil) im not sure what would happen as I probably couldnt have a d and c and medical management wouldn't work if I can't pass anything. I've had 3 sections and the thought of open surgery for something like that's a horrific thought. Its alot of what iffs I'm trying to remain calm haha and failing.....xxxx

Something is not adding up, I can't say from here if you Oed earlier or if they are wrong with their scan. No one can get a positive pregnancy test at 3 DPO.

Without going into detail here, the procedures are different if the baby is not viable. They have ways of doing the terminations that will open your cervix and I know people who have had 4 and 5 sections that had terminations vaginally. I think you should try to not go to the worst case scenario I know it's hard not to, but the odds are very good that everything is ok.