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First, good luck on the sway! I have two boys myself and am hoping for a girl. I'm really new so I only have a little advice to offer. I would get the IUD removed as soon as possible. I know that you can get pregnant right away, but I've had friends get pregnant immediately and others that take a few cycles. Just my two cents. Someone else might have better insight.
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Thanks for reposting this!!
I do want to mention if you want to get pregnant fast (esp. at 38 and up) then I would have you leave out antihistamine and jelly. They have not worked and really cut odds of conception.
Aspirin I have moved away from after a lot of side effects and a couple studies that showed the risks were higher than we first realized both to you and to a future pregnancy. Additionally it did not seem to help with sways. I'd skip it. If you do want to use it please start off only 3 days a week and see how you tolerate it and never take more than 5 days a week.
1)If you can't live without it, you can't live without it. If you can stand to drop it, I'd do so ASAP. Nothing seems to matter when it's done just in one week, it takes time. The reason I feel it sways blue is because I have seen many opposites conceived in people who did a good sway otherwise but drank tea. I myself got 4 boys drinking tea and then went to coffee to get my girl, and it is just something I feel best avoided. We don't know why it sways blue or even if it truly does, just that observationally I feel it is something best avoided.
Any herb tea would be ok, I'd not drink the same herb tea day in and out as they can sometimes act medicinally.
2)The copper ones ~probably~ don't sway pink so just have it out when it's convenient for you.
3)The problem with this idea is that you may not O when you normally do, as many of us find we O on very different days when swaying. I would hate to see you in with lots of attempts (may sway blue) CD 12-14 only to O on CD 14, if that makes sense.
4)You cannot lose ANY weight at all. you are already in a girl-friendly BMI and I do not want you to lose one ounce more. Hold steady where you are at by eating max calories (1800-2000 or even mroe) whilst still keeping protein and fat 40-50 g and 50-60 g range (more veg. sources of protein and fat sway pink)
You can have anything you want as long as you stay in this range but be aware that chicken can make it somewhat harder on diet, because it has a lot of protein for very few calories so you quickly go over on protein for the day, and then have nothing to eat. It's better to use grain products, dairy, legumes, eggs, soy, quorn, nuts to get protein because they have less protein for more calories than chicken does, if htat makes sense. It doesn't mean you can never have it, just that it makes it more difficult to keep your diet working for you.
All low carb veg are free and unlimited. Higher carb veg (sweet/starchy) and fruit, count cals, but not protein and fat. Avocado and olives do count fat and cals but not protein. Dark green salads have proven to be ok and not swaying blue.
5)No licorice when TTC or pregnant AT ALL. This is very important. I know in Scandinavia and some other countries they eat tons of licorice but it has been 100% proven to be harmful during pregnancy and we do not know how long the effects last, so I really, really want all swayers and pregnant women to avoid it. (black licorice, I mean)
Some other candy is ok if you need it to prevent weight loss but remember, you are trying not to eat really super unhealthy, but just at the lower levels of a healthy pre-pregnancy diet. A diet of chicken and candy is NOT LE Diet and is basically a starvation diet. I want you guys to try to eat some semblance of balanced meals without going overboard on empty calories - at the end of this all we want you to have a very healthy pregnancy!!
6)The magnesium I believe is fine if you need to continue with that. I prefer you guys drop all nutrients except folic acid/folate but if you need it for sleeping, a lot of people have taken it and gotten girls, so it can't sway that strongly.
7)I don't recommend doing that. I would have you drop it totally. I don't recommend that for ANYONE. Your vagina knows how to take care of itself haha. Sperm is not made to swim through oil and you may cut odds of conception as well as possibly mess up the ecosystem of your reproductive tract.
8)I leave this up to the indivdual. I personally do not believe it sways pink but I know many people do. I prefer you guys stick with 2-3 servings a day since that has been approved to be safe.
9) I am no longer using aspirin very much, nor antihistamine (only for people who insist) Explained above
10)If you can't do the exercise, don't. I didn't and still got a girl. It is a great sway tactic but if it requires a life-ruining amount of effort I think it's best to skip it (especially given your thin stature). If you do want to do it, 60 min. 4 days a week is the minimum amount and I want you to start as far in advance of sway as possible.
11) 12 day LP is not short. That is normal. 9 days is a bit short but still long enough to conceive with. I seriously doubt the b6 made your LP go from 9 to 12 days as I have seen tons of people start taking it and see no change or that it gets even worse, and the people who it did help, it took months to happen. 25 mg is not terrible though, so if you want to continue with it, it's ok. Personally I think B6 sways blue, and I got a boy taking 100 mg. But 25 is much less than 100!
We have had some success with having IUD (hormonal ones tho) taken out the month before you plan to TTC. Yeah, the risk is that the cycle may take longer to come back but it seems to be the case that may be partly or wholly why they sway - it may be the slight repression of fertility helps a pink sway and so it may be worth the annoyance factor.Quote:
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Great question, thanks~
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this is too long for me today, please give me a bump
Bump :)
Diet longer than 12 weeks, plus fiber, coffee, alcohol, doing one attempt or e4d, cardio exercise, and Clomid or Femara if you can get it. Everything else is just window dressing.
5 months is a long time away. I'd keep drinking regular tea. I do not have enough info to know if roobios sways.
Yes, that eating pattern is fine. 16 hours is plenty, many people do only 12-14.
The copper IUDs ~probably~ do not sway pink or blue because they do not affect your hormones. I have not seen very many people have them and I cannot therefore say "oh yes I've seen people do that" because it's only been 3 people or so, so I cannot totally say how it sways. I just don't know.
yes those vegetables are fine and unlimited!! :agree: All vegetables that are not sweet tasting or starchy.
We started off originally thinking that those kind of nutrients swayed blue. But over time we have found it is really things like fat, protein, and calories that is swaying strongly and the type of nutrients in fruit and veg, really don't seem to affect people's sways at all. We now have them as unlimited and our results have only gone UP since that time. If you have the choice you may want to choose less nutritious vegetables like caulflower, cucumbers, green beans, iceberg lettuce, but you don't have to do that. You can have whatever you want and it's unlimited. these vegetables have just not seemed to affect sways negatively.
2 days a week of candy is not going to hurt anything. Please no black licorice though
Lack of sleep sways pink. Stress can go either way depending on if it's stuff that is out of your control (may sway pink) or stress over things like doing projects and accomplishments (may sway blue.) I would not have you worry about things of that nature though, because all people do is start stressing over getting stressed. You should try to make swaying a part of your life instead of focusing on it and trying to "calm down". It doesn't work anyway to force yourself to calm down, it just makes you more worked up.
Yes that is the advantage of starting your sway in advance, is that you'll be used to it by the time March rolls around. Just be sure you don't lose too much weight.
That is a fine pattern for using the Lactal. No sooner than 1-2 hours before attempt though.
I personally prefer you guys not use aspirin/antihistamine if you can live without them. I just keep them in the mix for those people who really think they need them. Totally up to you.
12 weeks before, but please don't feel you need to if you really need that. I don't think that's something that really makes or breaks sways. If you do want to go off it, please wean off gradually.
Oh, whoops I missed the exercise question.
You would need to eat more in order to include the exercise. It's such a good sway tactic that I do encourage people to include it whenever possible. Just increase calories to compensate.
Yes, being very ambitious about your sway can sway blue. Your plan to give yourself time to get used to the program in advance of actually swaying is a good one because it won't feel like a big project any more.
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I recommend coffee and alcohol for any pink swayer who can use them.
Any will be better than none, so just do what works for you.
Both of your food schedules look fine to me. Remember you are worried about losing too much weight so please do what it takes to stop that from happening (meaning, add the candy on if it helps)
I do not think eating candy for 2 hours after a meal is a good idea. Remember we want your blood sugar to come down after eating and adding more and more sugar (even if a small amount) for several hours will not allow that to happen.
The more you use, and the closer before your attempt you use it, the lower odds of conception will be. We have not discovered any hard and fast schedule that "guarantees" pregnancy or baby of a certain gender. So I generally have people just use it every few days coming into their sway and then a small amount 1-2 hours before. Over time you can reduce this or extend the time.
Yes, I always like people to start off with one attempt either o-1 or o-2 because those are good days for conception with one attempt.
I have people J and D after 5 minutes but that is just what I came up with as a blanket rule. 3 minutes will be lower odds of conception, possibly higher chances of pink (but this is not proven)
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Mixing carbs and protein is for blue swayers, not pink. You guys don't need to worry about mixing them at meals, it's fine.
What I am trying to prevent is a situation where you have high blood sugar for a long time (because you're eating meal + candy for several hours straight) so just do it when you need to, just don't drag it out for 2 hours, that's all.
All alcohol has gotten good results so do whatever you prefer and feel free to change it up.
Yes, anything without sugar/calories is fine between meals. Coffee with skim milk is fine too even tho it has a few calories in it, that burns off fast.
I want you guys to do what works best for you. There is no "magic" amount of time between meals and it is best to stay flexible with things like this to better enable you to stick with the diet.
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yes, it is fine for pink swayers to mix protein and carbs. Only blue swayers need to even think about protein and carb combinations.
Femara is a fertility medicine like Clomid
Excellent!! VEgetarian/mostly vegetarian hubbies make more girls!! He doesn't need to do the same diet as you. I can't give you advice on supplements without a custom plan since not all guys can take all the sway supps.
Yes it's fine to use full fat dairy. I actually have about half our swayers use ONLY full fat dairy and we get good results with it.
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I think dietary amounts of spices are fine.
Cinnamon does tend to sway pink but it really lowers blood sugar a lot and can make people without PCOS lose a lot of weight very fast. I'd go easy on it to prevent weight loss.
I can't sign off on your spice tea because I have not seen anyone do that and know the gender of their baby.
You need to let your weight loss be your guide and eat as many calories as needed to prevent excess weight loss. This varies by the person, with your metabolism and body type and I cannot tell anyone what cals they will need to eat when swaying. Do not drop below BMI 18.5 under any circumstance and once you get to BMI 21, try to stop losing and hold steady (this gives you a margin in case you do lose a little more after that.)
You know, with your BMI that low and short LP, let's drop the fiber. Don't take it. I think you'll mess up your cycle that way.
Yes, I want you to wean off the B6. do not stop it cold turkey, wean off of it gradually.
Most likely, the b6 did nothing and you just had a longer LP that month for other reasons. There are much better treatments for a short LP and I'd actually talk to your doctor because you may be able to get some medicine that helps your LP and even sways pink.
you should always take folic acid. 1200-1600 mg folic.
I don't think b6 works for most people anyway. Folic or no.
I have never known folic alone to do anything for LP and have seen plenty of people on folic acid but who still have a short LP.
If you think the B6 helped you, take the B6.
What happened 10 years ago is totally irrelevant to what's happening now. All I can go off of is what you write to me and when someone tells me that they had a LP of 9 days and then they started B6 and it immediately went up but then back again the next month then that indicates to me that it isn't working.
I think B6 sways hugely blue and IF it works, it only works for like 3% of people. I've seen it make things worse for tons of people. But if it works for you, maybe you're in the 3%.
I am not sure I can cover this any more thoroughy than I have. It's up to you whether to take it or not. I don't think it works 97% of the time and I think it sways blue.
i agree about the morning sickness too because I took it with one of my pregnancies and I was sick as a dog the whole time, worse than some of my pregnancies where I didn't take it. :/
Fiber is up to you. We actualy have had good luck eating lots of fruit and veg and whole grains for pink. That is something that turned out to be less important than we thought. So I'd prob. just ahve you continue eating those kinds of things instead of doing the fiber.
After taking the half dose, you need to start spacing doses as well, so you'd take one every other day, then every 2 days, every 3, till down to one per week, then it's ok to stop. Don't just stop it, take 3-4 weeks to space the doses. That way your body is not shocked by the sudden absence of the stuff.
where is the other thread? today or some time ago?
it is easiest for me if you just post questions once. I want to answer all questions to avoid the situation on forums where there are hundreds of unanswered questions that everyone must sift thru to find mod's answers, and it is much easier for me to do that if you guys post each question in one spot. :)
legumes like peas and haricot beans (Americans we call these navy beans) you would count. All else is free and unlimited. So I'd prob. just round it down to 10 g in my mind and not sweat the rest of it.Quote:
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As far as I know it's fine, but understand that I honestly do not know how everything sways. Rosehip does have a good deal of Vit C and the blackberry leaves in medicinal quantities may have some effect (but I doubt many are in there)Quote:
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Don't lose any weight. Start off high on cals, higher than you think you need, and see how it goes.
Don't worry about your vacation, that would make no difference at all. I hope you have a great time!!!
Yes yes yes please relax and enjoy. There is no need to diet longer than 12 weeks and that indulgence will be long gone by then.
I don't read that thread usually. I cannot keep up with the support threads because they are just too long. It's easier for me if you guys post questions in their own dedicated threads. I'll try to answer if I come across it.
yes that's fine
1)It doesn't matter really, the only thing to possibly avoid is munching for several hours from start to finish.
2)That would be the outer limit of what I think is wise. Of course now and then if it went longer that would be fine, but I would think no longer than 90 minutes or so.
3)About the same. Since you're not doing it regularly if you made it last over 120 minute long movie I don't think it would hurt anything.
FWIW I see many girl moms who skip meals and eat candy.
I really do not like anyone to eat under 1200 and this is especially true for someone with such a low BMI.
I really, really doubt this is enough food or a healthy pre-pregnancy diet.
Yes, I'm not terribly concerned about the stuff on the weekend, I just want to be sure you get enough cals.
No one has to wait till 2 to eat. Most of us have our first meal between 10-12.
I have literally never seen anyone eat in this pattern. I don't think it's boy friendly, but I just can't say 'oh yes I've seen 10 people do this and get girls' I feel very uncomfortable telling you either way because I have zero observations to fall back on.
As a general rule I try very much to have people do what works for them. So my advice is, please do get 1200 cals even on the off days, and if this works for you, if it's what is going to help you stick to the diet, go for it. :)
I mean on the days you are only eating 1100 calories, try to get at least 1200.
YES you can eat before 2 even if you've eaten at 10.
I think you need to stop this planning down to the minute kind of thinking, because this kind of "control freak" mindset where you're accounting for every minute and worrying about things that we don't even have any way of knowing if they even sway. I don't know the answers to your questions because I haven't ever seen anyone sway like this. It doesn't mean it won't work for you, just that I haven't seen bunches of people do it.
I think you should do what you think will work for you. If you think this is going to work, as long as it's more pink friendly than what you were eating before, go for it. Because going over it and over it will be swaying more blue than eating candy for 2 hours could ever be. :)
Sounds fine and I'm very interested to see how this works for you
We have no idea how many hours between meals so please everyone just do what works best for you.
Just wanted to say good luck. We are in the same boat
(Three boys and we will be ttc girl sway end of May as well) I have just started LE diet.
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Thanks! Good luck to you as well :)
How does the diet work for you?
In hope, seriously, please listen.
I'm not dodging your question, I really DO NOT KNOW how many hours, if there's a magic amount of time or there isn't. These questions you are asking me, I would need to test individually over 1000's of people and I have absolutely no way of knowing if they even matter at all. I just don't. Since I do not know, and have no way of knowing, I urge everyone to do what will work for them to enable them to stick to the diet to the best of their ability.
It doesn't matter if you "feel stressed out" or whatever, this IS being a control freak. even if you are very calm about it this type of obsession over tiny details sways blue.
1)I don't know, please do what works for you as long as it's at least 12 hours. 14-16 may be better but I don't KNOW it for a fact.
2)I don't know, please do what works for you. People have done 4 meals sometimes and still gotten girls.
3)I have no idea. Anything with calories counts as a meal, of course. If you must have the candy, I'd try to do two meals, but if you can't do 2 meals and end up cheating, obviously that's a backfire and you would have been better off just eating sensibly.
4)I strongly suggest you eat more during the week if you're losing weight. When you eat a lot at one sitting, what happens is that your body cannot use most of it and you end up excreting a lot of the calories and you don't use them. You need to have more calories coming in during the week to stop weight loss, not at one sitting.
5)Please try to keep in mind that part of the point of the LE Diet is to also be a healthy pre-pregnancy diet. A diet of candy and broccoli is NOT THAT (I am exaggerating, I understand that's not all you're eating). I cannot sign off on any more candy for you. I would very much rather see you add in a small amount more real food during the week even if you need to increase protein and fat intake somewhat.
Pretty good. I simply cannot start my day without breakfast so although I usually have poached eggs I've ditched that for toast with banana and honey for the extra carbs.Quote:
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I'm usually a very healthy person and I've always counted my protein/fat/carbs so while it's been an adjustment having to eat so many more carbs, I'm finding the switch not too hard because I'm used to tracking my food anyway.
The wine each evening is quite enjoyable though [emoji12][emoji12][emoji12]
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Good luck :)
You need to do whatever it takes to stop the weight loss. If you can't eat more, then you need to cut back on the exercise.
18.5 is my absolute lowest threshold for swaying. I do not want anyone to drop below that, and if you've lost weight, then you're below my minimum cutoff. No more weight loss. Even if you have to drop diet totally and just become a vegetarian then do that. what is going to happen is that you'll stop ovulating and then won't be able to get pregnant at all.