What's most important for girl sway - one attempt or other factors?

All things being equal, is it more important to have one attempt during the fertile window or to keep ph low with things like diet? Basically asking if you only have one attempt, but aren't doing the LE diet, do you still have a good shot of conceiving a girl? My husband travels for work, so bd e4d is easy for me. What's hard is the LE diet...I basically eat a girl friendly diet (mostly vegetarian, red wine, coffee w/skim milk, skim dairy, diet cokes, etc.), but I am still concerned that since I'm not doing hard core LE I'm downing my chances. Any thoughts?

LE has pretty great success rate and the science behind it is strong so I personally think it is very important. But it isn't about ph at all. That has nothing to do with the LE diet. LE is about changing your blood sugar levels and adjusting conditions in the woman's body. One attempt is very important too though so it is great you are sticking to that.


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Thanks for answering! I can't do the full exercise plan because of my already low BMI and weight (I am doing weights class 3 times per week, though). So if I stick to mostly vegetarian (just some chicken breast and turkey), coffee, skim dairy, etc., is that "good" enough?

I think weight training sways boy, if it were me I would drop that.

Being that you already have 2 girls I think you have a pretty good shot at a successful sway doing less than us all boy moms.

We don't know. We don't have that kind of data. All we can do is look at what has worked for most people, most of the time.

Can you please explain what you mean by "hard core LE" because usually when people say stuff like this, they are completely misunderstanding what LE Diet even is really.

I can testify that based on the number of people I've seen who had a great blue sway but only had one attempt and got girls, that yes, even without doing diet to the max, you can get a girl.

Now do I think that makes your best odds, no, but I have seen it often enough among the blue sway opposites that I have no other conclusion to draw than yeah, for some reason we can only guess at, one attempt seems to sway pink.

I agree- weight training sways boy. Cardio is what you want for girl, but has to be an hour at a time I believe, no less. I didn't do exercise at all with my sway, I went for the couch potatoe but did stick to the LE very good.

For your diet, it is not so much what you are eating, but staying to the limits and the frequency. Are you sticking to just 3 meals a day or are you snacking in between? Are you doing low fat, low calorie? Vegetarian is good so you lower your protein, but the cutting out snacks so your blood sugar has a chance to go low between meals is important. Also are you having one stretch of a good fasting period each day? (why many woman skip breakfast).

Sorry, should have been more clear on what I meant... By hard core, I mean not following it to a T. I have to eat breakfast every morning, otherwise I can't function with my girls and with work. It's typically something light like eggs and toast with peanut butter, but I have to eat otherwise I feel faint. I do eat snacks also, I have to, but I've tried to limit them to something small. My job is very stressful and I have to be on top of my game, and if I don't eat, I honestly just get so hungry and have a hard time thinking about anything else. I'm super lucky to be thin and actually be able to eat, but on the flip side, I can't skip breakfast and snacks because I'm afraid of getting underweight on BMI (I'm literally hovering on underweight/normal by one pound!). So this isn't something on my side that I feel that I can negotiate. However, that said, I've switched my snacks from protein shakes to skim vanilla greek yogurts and things that have less protein and vitamins/minerals/fortified.

So basically I was asking if having one attempt plus my adjusted diet above would be enough to help sway pink? Thoughts?

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Originally Posted by maximbella

Sorry, should have been more clear on what I meant... By hard core, I mean not following it to a T. I have to eat breakfast every morning, otherwise I can't function with my girls and with work. It's typically something light like eggs and toast with peanut butter, but I have to eat otherwise I feel faint. I do eat snacks also, I have to, but I've tried to limit them to something small. My job is very stressful and I have to be on top of my game, and if I don't eat, I honestly just get so hungry and have a hard time thinking about anything else. I'm super lucky to be thin and actually be able to eat, but on the flip side, I can't skip breakfast and snacks because I'm afraid of getting underweight on BMI (I'm literally hovering on underweight/normal by one pound!). So this isn't something on my side that I feel that I can negotiate. However, that said, I've switched my snacks from protein shakes to skim vanilla greek yogurts and things that have less protein and vitamins/minerals/fortified.

So basically I was asking if having one attempt plus my adjusted diet above would be enough to help sway pink? Thoughts?

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Good luck with your sway Maximbella. I agree that since you already have two girls you may already have some girl friendly traits so definitely have a chance for another.
I'm not a girl swayer so can't comment too much of the LE diet but did notice the snacks and breakfast you have gone to do sound quite boy friendly. Things like eggs and yoghurt are being recommended on the boy threads. Maybe there may be better pink options?

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Originally Posted by maximbella

All things being equal, is it more important to have one attempt during the fertile window or to keep ph low with things like diet? Basically asking if you only have one attempt, but aren't doing the LE diet, do you still have a good shot of conceiving a girl? My husband travels for work, so bd e4d is easy for me. What's hard is the LE diet...I basically eat a girl friendly diet (mostly vegetarian, red wine, coffee w/skim milk, skim dairy, diet cokes, etc.), but I am still concerned that since I'm not doing hard core LE I'm downing my chances. Any thoughts?

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I believe that one attempt is a huge factor. Last year I didn't sway, but we did one attempt with abstain since beginning of my cycle) and I got pregnant with a girl. But seeing you have a quite pink friendly lifestyle and already have 2 girls, I think you have a big chance of getting another girl. Good luck!

Augh, am I snacking wrong? Atomic, are there more pink friendly snacks that I should be having? I'm CD19 and probably Oing any day now. I really hope I didn't mess this up... [emoji849]


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Maxim---What kinds of things did you do last time to get your girls?

Did you do one attempt or more than one?

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Augh, am I snacking wrong? Atomic, are there more pink friendly snacks that I should be having? I'm CD19 and probably Oing any day now. I really hope I didn't mess this up... [emoji849]


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Getting worked up over every little thing is not going to help your sway. Remember, the rules have to be different for you because you may only HAVE this month to TTC and if you'll recall I did not want you to do drastic changes on diet because I was worried you would delay or even stop ovulation. Everything has to change when you have a limited window.

Snacking tends to sway blue. But it's just one little thing. I do NOT think that there are "magic pink snacks" or anything like that, what the previous poster meant was that they are relatively high in protein but since you're really not doing diet in the way that others are doing, I want you to do what is working for you. Trust me, a yogurt is much better than a fortified protein shake.

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Originally Posted by maximbella

Sorry, should have been more clear on what I meant... By hard core, I mean not following it to a T. I have to eat breakfast every morning, otherwise I can't function with my girls and with work. It's typically something light like eggs and toast with peanut butter, but I have to eat otherwise I feel faint. I do eat snacks also, I have to, but I've tried to limit them to something small. My job is very stressful and I have to be on top of my game, and if I don't eat, I honestly just get so hungry and have a hard time thinking about anything else. I'm super lucky to be thin and actually be able to eat, but on the flip side, I can't skip breakfast and snacks because I'm afraid of getting underweight on BMI (I'm literally hovering on underweight/normal by one pound!). So this isn't something on my side that I feel that I can negotiate. However, that said, I've switched my snacks from protein shakes to skim vanilla greek yogurts and things that have less protein and vitamins/minerals/fortified.

So basically I was asking if having one attempt plus my adjusted diet above would be enough to help sway pink? Thoughts?

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Lots of people have had to continue with breakfast due to work demands. It is just one thing that may help some people. It does NOT make or break a sway.

Is there any way you could eat more at meals and eliminate the snacking?

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Originally Posted by MiaMelb

Good luck with your sway Maximbella. I agree that since you already have two girls you may already have some girl friendly traits so definitely have a chance for another.
I'm not a girl swayer so can't comment too much of the LE diet but did notice the snacks and breakfast you have gone to do sound quite boy friendly. Things like eggs and yoghurt are being recommended on the boy threads. Maybe there may be better pink options?

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There are no "girl foods" or "boy foods". It's your overall diet as a whole that matters. So many foods can be part of a pink diet OR a blue diet depending on how they're eaten. :)

Atomic, actually yes...I can definitely eat a bigger breakfast, but typically I don't since I'm eating with my girls and it's already pretty hectic meal time with them. But I will do that and try to skip morning snack at the very least. The afternoons are so hectic with work, carpool, activities with kids, etc. so I typically forget to eat. I've always eaten the things that I am now, but just cutting out protein shakes and trading them for yogurt, strawberries, etc. I assumed that was okay? And you're right, I don't have time on my side and I was worried about going drastic any direction with diet since my body is sensitive to changes. Not sure if this is even related to these minor changes, but I have noticed that I have very, very little CM the past 2 months...

Robin, I'm a creature of habit, so honestly, my meals have been pretty much the same over the years. Always eggs/toast in am, a protein snack, turkey sandwich at lunch, another snack, and then some type of healthy dinner. I did cut out red meat several years ago, so that is a difference, but everything else is pretty consistent. I did add in diet coke and red wine the past 2 months, but otherwise really no changes in that respect.

I would actually eat more at breakfast and skip the morning snack. In the afternoon you're having a good run of time anyway.

I really, really think that since you've gotten 2 girls already eating this way I think you should try not to start going over everything with a fine tooth comb wondering how it all sways. Trust me, that sways a heck of a lot more than any minor difference in diet. :)

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Originally Posted by atomic sagebrush

I would actually eat more at breakfast and skip the morning snack. In the afternoon you're having a good run of time anyway.

I really, really think that since you've gotten 2 girls already eating this way I think you should try not to start going over everything with a fine tooth comb wondering how it all sways. Trust me, that sways a heck of a lot more than any minor difference in diet. :)

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Atomic, I knooooow, and I'm trying so hard to be relaxed and not overthink it, but I'm obviously failing! Thank you for your continued support and patience! ;)