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Hi! I'm new to this forum and site. I have 3 boys, 4, 2, and 9 months. We will be ttc our last baby soon. All the information on here is very overwhelming. I've read a ton of the posts about swaying girl. I've taken a lot of notes too. I just don't know where to start or how to get everything accomplished. Any tips for beginners?
Thanks!
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Hi and welcome!
I'm here to walk you through anything that you don't understand, just ask!
In my signature below is a link to the Complete Index which is an alphabetized list of the information on the site, it can help having it all under one roof that way.
Welcome.. if your looking for a short cut i would purchase a peraonalised swaying plan..i found it saved me alot of headaches in the end :) xx
I'd start on diet right away! How soon are you thinking? Are you breastfeeding, if so keep going at it and adjust the listed diet limits a little. Do you think there's anything in your lifestyle that sways blue?
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I want to try next cycle, so September! I am still breastfeeding. I don't know what would sway blue in my life. I know that with all the kids we only attempted once and on O day or the day before ish. My periods are usually pretty regular like spot on 28 days . I should read through the blue info and see if anything sounds familiar.
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Having very regular cycles and being super fertile may indicate you're more "set" for blue to begin with. Don't get hung up on figuring out what in your life "swayed blue" it may just be a natural thing for you. Focus instead on doing the things that have swayed pink for the most people, most of the time, even if it is things you did in the past.
Hey,
I already have a gorgeous cheeky son named Hayden and he is 2yrs old. Im super new to this forum and wanting all ideas I can to try and sway for a girl. I have AF visiting at the moment but looking forward to actually ttc my next cycle. I have read so much about trying to increase my chances in getting a girl and the "diet" thing has me so confused because its contradicting. Is it right- Lots of dairy? Low salt? High magnesium and calcium, no bananas, low protein, so does that mean no meat at all?
Teampinkhope, the diet for pink is the LE diet (which Atomic linked above in her signature). We get best results with 12+ weeks on diet. It's 1500-1800 cals, 50-60g protein, 35-60g fat. You can have dairy but lots of people here got girls without it. Too much dairy sways blue. High or low salt doesn't seem to matter so don't worry. Just make sure you're getting enough. We don't bother with minerals like calcium or mag since too much of it sways blue. Again, don't cut back too far, just make sure you're getting enough for health reasons. You can have bananas and meat (or any food for that matter) as long as you stay within cal/fat/protein limits. Low carb veggies don't count cals or protein but with fruit count cals. It is easier to stay within protein limits being vegetarian. Good luck! xx
Most of us on here got opposites doing things that way so we were looking for a better way. Many of us had 2-3-4 or more swaying opposites with the "old school" mineral and timing stuff so I hit the books and used more current research to come up with a different kind of diet rather than rewarming the same 40-50 year old BS that didn't work for me. (and I did get a girl with the lowest intake of dairy I've ever had in my life!) But you need to do what is going to work for YOU. It's all very easy to give up on once you've gotten a boy taking 800 mg calcium and skipping sodium religiously LOL.Quote:
Originally Posted by TeamPinkhope
I am happy to explain all the seeming contradictions but basically it boils down to the fact that we use newer and more scientifically ascertained research that indicates it is OTHER things than mineral balancing that sways.
Most of us do give up meat either mostly or entirely. Studies have found that more vegetable-based protein, and particularly fat, as opposed to animal sources, sways pink.
Above all else I must stress do NOT simply start drinking tons of milk and cutting out salt. I have a name for people who do that and it's "boy mom". :) There are tons of additional nutrients in dairy foods. If you really must do the minerals, take calcium in supplement form only and don't do the extra Vit. D taht some sites call for, it's been a strong blue sway for us.
Thanks for the replies. I dont know how to count calories and im worried its going to stress me out.
Ive read skipping breakfast and other meals are good, this right?
At the moment i am not adding any salt to my diet but still having it. Im eating mostly vegies like pumpkin,broccli,carrots,brossell sprouts,spinach,small amount of potatoes,zucchini,tomato,cauliflower.
Brown rice, chickpeas, pasta, cous cous, bread
Breakfast- rolled oats or toast or porridge.
Instant Coffee 1-2 cups before 1pm
Full cream milk. Should it be hi lo? Cheese.
Im taking Vitex 1000mg which is meant to alter hormones in favour for a girl. Anyone know if this works? Figured it cant hurt.
My hubby is taking licorice root vitamins 3 times a day which again it cant hurt right? He has gut issues so might help with digestion. Anyone had luck using this?
We plan on DTD every day up until i get a faint positive line on my ovulation test which I usually get a positive 3 days after the faint line.
Plan on trying not to orgasm but this will be hard :(
Will do shallow penetration as well.
What foods makes the vaginal secretions acidic??
Is this know to work?
We both haven't been drinking alcohol for a month now as we want to give our bodies a rest before concieving bub #2. We did this with DS.
If you don't want to count calories, just go vegetarian. We still get good results with that. But do be sure you're eating ENOUGH. One of the main things about LE Diet is that you are getting enough to have a healthy pregnancy.
Most of us totally gave up the salt thing but totally up to you.
Skip the oats, there is a compound in them that may sway blue. YOu'd have to eat a lot of it, but most people just prefer to skip it on general principle.
Vitex has gotten disappointing results (still better than 50-50 for pink, but not as awesome as I'd liek to see) and has cut odds of conception, also really makes your cycle go wackadoo. There are downsides to it.
LR - this can be harmful to take more than 2 weeks straight so be sure he's doing it for your CD 1-14 only and then take the rest of the month off.
I BEG you not to DTD every day. I really cannot recommend that for anyone and I have a full explanation in this thread, not the first post but a few down the page. http://genderdreaming.com/forum/gend...nk-lately.html
Acidic/alkaline diet stuff has not worked for most of us and I have a full explanation of why it is biologically impossible here http://genderdreaming.com/forum/gend...ph-pickle.html
That's totally fine and your call to make not to drink alcohol when TTC, but it has gotten good results for us for pink. :)
I know this has been asked a lot, but I was wondering how much folic to take. I'm 37 (38 in October) TTC mid September for a girl. I'm currently nursing and am concerned about how much to take. I don't know if too much can pass to my nursing son? And advice would be appreciated! Thanks!
Thankyou for your reply Atomic. I have been reading all your discussions and am becoming very overwhelmed by it all as it all is so confusing and I have no idea what to actually do that has high success rate. We only want 2 kids so this is our last and final chance to have a baby and I would really really love it to be a girl.Quote:
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I am only eating Vegetarian at the moment which isn't that hard but I'm a huge meat fan so lets see how long it "isn't hard for"
The LE diet is low everything but is Bread, rice, cous cous and pasta ok? My husband is making the food and its all really yummy stuff with heaps of veggies but it is with these carbs. What is the best thing to eat for breakfast?
I tried to do the skipping breakfast but omg I just can't do it!!!! I'm quite thin and have always woken up hungry so to have that hunger all the way up until lunch was really hard!! If I do that long term I would go nuts. I also want to mention that my first pregnancy with my son took a huge toll on my body (I had gestational diabetes while pregnant but completely controlled with diet alone) then after I had him while breastfeeding I lost so much weight and just couldn't get enough nutrients into me I had to supplement with sustagen, pregnancy/breastfeeding vitamins. Finished breastfeeding after 13months and only got back to my normal weight 6 months after stopping breastfeeding.
I just need to be careful I don't become unhealthy with these techniques. or is it a good thing that I'm slightly malnourished as I'm getting the impression on here its important for you to be run down and have lower weight and fertility to conceive girls? so confused :(
I read all your info on timing and wow I'm super confused and need to get clarification as last night my period finished and I'm super excited we can now actively start TTC. So if we did it every 2nd day up until 2 days before ovulation that it is likely to sway pink?
Is lowering sperm count a girl sway?
Wouldnt frequent BD leading up to ovulation lower sperm count anyway and increase the chances of conception because theres a lot of swimmers in there waiting for the egg hehe ?
Ive told DH to not release himself until we start trying is this right? So sorry for all the questions I just don't know which one to try coz there are too many options.
I won't DTD every day like you suggested. But only doing it once makes me nervous. Do you think we should BD 3 & 2 days before ovulation and thats it? Then wait to see if I get pregnant.
Bugger about the Vitex. Should I stop Vitex straight away or is that bad? And should I tell DH to stop the LR? He has been taking it for a few weeks now and we will TTC in the next few days.
Your info on pH is that it doesn't matter what you eat or do the environment would always be what it is and that ovulation creates a path of liquid for the sperm to follow to the egg?
You mentioned you had good pink results drinking? is that right? Please explain?
I like you guys to take 1200-1600 mcg. Many prenatals have 800-1000 and so it's just a bit more than that. This is because people are following a restrictive diet and sometimes taking supplements that may deplete their folic supply. It both prevents neural tube defects but also may help prevent chromosomal abnormalities.Quote:
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I think it's perfectly fine to take while nursing and in fact I had to take 4000 mcg with my last two pregnancies (both of which I was nursing with) and I was told to do this by my doctor (who knew I was breastfeeding) because my 3rd child has a mild neural tube defect. And I was taking 800 mcg folic acid with him, since that is how much is in my prenatal! That's part of the reason I like to be sure you guys are getting enough, since we did experience that situation ourselves even on 800 mcg folic and a very healthy diet as well.
Since you have such a hard time keeping weight on, I think you need to just stay vegetarian and don't worry about the rest of it. Grain foods are fine for most people. Under normal circumstances I would have people with a history of gestational diabetes use whole grains instead, but only if you can keep weight on while eating those.
Don't worry about skipping breakfast, it's just one little thing. Many people don't skip it. And even if you just pushed your first meal back an hour, that still may help. There is no magic to breakfast, you're just trying to extend that time overnight with no food coming in.
Yes, we are aiming at being slightly lower in condition and fertility but please don't take that too seriously. It is a MINOR thing and you very well may already BE in that zone. Remember, most people get boys and girls not realizing they are even doing anything any different than they did before!
No, every 2 days is really really blue friendly. It doesn't work. Please do only every 4 days or even further apart. Even if you put a cutoff onto that (and trust me, from one who knows firsthand, timing does not work, most of us on here have timing opposites, plural) you are doing a frequency pattern that may sway blue.
While technically yes, lowering sperm count is ~supposed~ to sway pink, I feel that it is best to do what actually has gotten results instead of counting on dusty old theories that most of us got opposites with. And what has worked by far and away best, is one attempt. And if you don't want to do one attempt, do e4d instead. But do NOT go any closer than that at least not until you've given it at least 3 months.
BD 2 and 3 days before O got me at least 2 of my 4 boys. I cannot sign off on that plan for anyone who has not already been TTC for a while. Everyone assumes they cannot possibly get pregnant with one attempt but people on this site and elsewhere do it every day. Every ejaculation has enough sperm to get millions of women pregnant.
If your husband has been taking LR for "a few weeks" he needs to stop it immediately and stay off of it for at least a month. It can raise blood pressure through the roof and that is why we take it only 2 weeks at a time.
Vitex is totally at your discretion whether to continue or not, it's just not a stellar sway tactic, unfortunately. I do wish it was as easy as taking an herb but it doesn't seem to work that way. Plus it can delay O.
It does matter what you eat but pH does not depend directly upon the foods you eat in the way that people say that it does. PLUS, it is simply impossible that low pH is neccessary for conceiving a girl, since no one's pH is really low at ovulation and if it were, pregnancy would not occur, since low pH kills sperm. Some people may find that coincidentally, changes in diet seem to lower pH, but that is because the foods you eat affect your hormone levels, and hormones make EWCM. So when your hormones have lowered, you may have less CM, and in turn lower pH, but that does not mean that low pH is the reason why this sways or that just shooting some goo up into the VJ does anything. In fact, we know it doesn't, since none of the low pH jellies have gotten good results, with the same % of people getting boys and girls with and without them.
Yes, ovulation creates a path of EWCM that the sperm swim through to get to the egg. No theory there, that's a fact.
Yes, we've had good results with drinking 1-2 drinks a day as a part of a sway. What part did you need me to explain?
Thankyou again for you reply Atomic , I know there was a lot to read. While I waited for a reply I got my DH to read a few threads to give him an idea what information I am reading but to also explain things to me and formulate a plan for TTC this cycle.Quote:
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We worked out DH has been taking LR for 16 days and have stopped that now. (been 2 days) He joked saying if he has a heart attack for high blood pressure he is blaming me for making him take it. :OP
--When you said he should stop it immediently and stay off it for a month. That means he can re start it if we don't succeed in Pg???
I have also stopped taking Vitex. (hope it doesn't delay ovulation this cycle)
So our plan will be:
I will delay breakfast a few hours on the 2 days I don't work and on weekends.
I will have smaller meals (I think I'm over eating at lunch & dinner)
The only plan we can trial this cycle is Compressed FR with 1 attempt so I will do OPK every day to monitor O and I'm estimating O on Wednesday 2nd August so DH will FR x3 times on Monday and x3 times on Tuesday.
BD day (Wed 2nd August) DH will FR once in the morning and try once in the afternoon. He has indoor cricket and will be home around 9pm so will do our 1 attempt then. Shallow with missionary and no Big O for me :(
Is DTD on O day likely to sway pink? Or would it matter if it happens once 2 days before OR 1 day before? Im just concerned timing our 1 attempt on an OPK day.
We haven't been drinking alcohol at all for 5 weeks as we didn't drink for 2 or so months before trying to conceive with DS and figured we want to be our healthiest while trying to conceive #2. But I really really want to have a glass of wine here and there but my DH is struggling more than I am because he drinks a lot more than I do (and never knows when to stop) so I don't want start something I can't stop. Does alcohol damage sperm quality?
Well 16 days is not really more than 14 days. The impression I had on your other posts was that he had been on it nonstop for months.
Yes, when you get your next AF in a couple weeks he can retake it for another 2 weeks, then come off it again. That way his body always has a break. No longer than 6 months doing that in total, then he needs to drop it totally.
DTD on O Day does not sway blue (been debunked, read more here http://genderdreaming.com/forum/gend...le-timing.html) but it is also not good odds of conception. Please feel free to DTD 1 or 2 days before O not for your sway but because either one of them is better odds of conception than O day.
The day of positive OPK is NOT O Day. It is 24-36 hours on average before O day. So DTD on the day of first positive OPK is actually having sex the exact day you were suggesting. We do this not for swaying but because it is the best chance of conception with one attempt. For reasons we do not know, one attempt sways pink regardless of the day of intercourse.
I would simply stay away from the alcohol in that case. Please do not let swaying make you think you need to start up with anything that will be bad for DH in the long term. I will say from sad experience that if your husband drinks to excess and you have any chance to get him to cut back on that, do it sooner rather than later because it can really wreak havoc on your life in the long term. It isn't worth it for your sway at all.
Hey again,Quote:
Originally Posted by atomic sagebrush
I did a clearable ov test Tuesday night and got "not fertile". On Wed morning (BD day) I had clear egg white CM and on a cheapy opk got a light positive line so tested again yesterday afternoon and got an even darker line and when I got home from work (7pm) the digital test was Peak fertility. My CM wasn't thick anymore and was clear slippery. I was like woah that happened quick so was super excited for DH to come home to do our planned one BD attempt. But you were saying that a positive opk test isn't when you are ovulating and just before it right? I was a little worried I had missed the timing, what do you think?
Well... our BD last night was a disaster!!! I think the pressure to DTD got to DH :( :( :(
he had been doing compressed FR since that was the only technique we could try this cycle so he FR x3 times Monday, x2 Tuesday and once on Wed morning (BD night). He felt like he had nothing left and couldn't reach climax which was really disappointing/stressful. He was very frustrated but determined to "put a girl in me" hehehe he managed to finally get there but it was a pathetic amount of semen so I tilted hips up for a bit after and stayed lying for a few mins then when to the toilet to clean up. Not much semen was wiped away so I would be very surprised if this resulted in a pregnancy.
So would you agree that its not the best method for my DH? If this doesn't work we will try one of the other methods (maybe FR once a day for 7-10 days up until O)
Fingers crossed we get an BFP this month but I'm realistic it probably won't. Now the wait ...
In the meantime you recommend to continue the LE diet? What else should I do?
Yes, see, this is why I don't even use the CFR any more. Coupled with the LR it ends up this way for 90% of everyone who's tried it and it can create longstanding issues with DH and BD that are really unpleasant when trying to conceive! I do not think it's the best method for anyone's DH.
You ovulate about 24-36 hours average after first positive OPK. Yes, it can happen very quickly just like that. Worst thing that happens is you get a BFN, so don't worry that your attempt was too late. It probably wasn't, and it doesn't hurt anything too badly even if it was.
Yes continue diet, I like you guys to stay on diet even after attempt since our results show clearly that 12 weeks on diet is much much better results and 2-4 weeks is abysmal (so going off and on diet is not a good idea)
Just keep exercising if you were and try to stay chill, you never know you could actually have conceived, or if not, it just wasn't meant to be THE month. :)
Hey Atomic,
So you know how I said our first and only BD was a disaster? I kept doing pregnancy tests every 2nd day from 7dpo and kept getting negative results even though I felt things like advanced smell, change in taste and a dull ache in my lower pelvis. It was so frustrating because I felt a little different. AF was due on Friday 18th August and I got my BFP on he 17th August (15dpo)
I am in absolute disbelief that some sperm actually went in because DH was having such a hard time as he CFR leading up to our attempt and felt as though there was nothing left to come out.
Fingers crossed its a sticky one and I make it over the 12 week mark. What is the likely hood of our pink sway being successful?
We DTD at a positive ovulation test, missionary, shallow release, had been on LE diet for 5 weeks, DH was on LR for just over 2 weeks but stopped well before our BD. He was frequent releasing 3 days before BD. I only skipped breakfast about 5 times in the 5 weeks and the rest of the time I had early dinners and delayed breakfast. We also both had hot showers before BD and for 5 weeks had a salt lamp in the bedroom.
I really hope its a little girl!!! I can't believe I'm pregnant! First month trying again (we got BFP the first month with DS) :) :) :) :)
I don't sound off on sways that are done deals because I can't know whose has worked and whose hasn't, and it would only create false hope or false despair every time I was wrong. :) I will just wish you the best of luck and send you tons of pink dust.
Just out of curiosity, what do you mean when you say AF was due a certain day and then you were 15 DPO??? I suspect you may have ovulated later than you think. Did you have any more unprotected sex after that point??
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Ok fair enough. I guess i'll just wait to find out if we have our girl. Hehe
I got my positive ovulation result on 2nd aug and BD that night but ovulated after that, you said its 24-36hrs after a positive test. So i could have been 13-15dpo when i got my BFP on the day before AF was due.
No other unprotected sex, just the one time.
Gotcha! Good luck and pink dust!
Yes, I can help, but I need you to start your own thread. Just go back out to the main page, and click open a forum. (this is the part most people miss - you actually have to open a forum, not someone's thread, to start your own thread) Then once the forum is open you will see the "start new thread" button and ask whatever questions you have and I can help!
I posted this in another area and haven't gotten a response so I'm going to try here. Hope that's ok.
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Thanks!
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Ok, so we have released 6 days in a row with no positive opk in sight. But he missed yesterday. Should we just keep moving forward or get an additional release in there?
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I answered in the other thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pokster
Just pick it up again. No need for an additional release.Quote:
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Hey Atomic,Quote:
Originally Posted by atomic sagebrush
Just wanted to let you in on the news. Ive reached 8+3 weeks pregnant and we had our dating scan last week and....
We are having TWINS!!!!!!!!! Seriously did NOT see this coming! planning our last addition to our family, one last chance at getting a girl because we only want 2 kids and BAM!!! TWO!! So I suppose thats double the chance at getting our girl hehe So far they are likely to be non identical but there is still a chance.
Smooth sailing with the pregnancy so far. A lot of tiredness and waves of nausea but pretty good. hahaha I'm still in shock.
Thread crashing! Great story! Congratulations!!! [emoji1]Quote:
Originally Posted by TeamPinkhope
huge congrats Team pink!! FX and TX for a pinky in there!!!
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Our twins are both BOYS!!!
I was extremely disappointed when we found out at an early gender 16week scan. That soul crushing disappointment of never having a girl only lasted for 2 days which i knew it would pass and im well used to the idea of a house full of boys now. Currently 23 weeks pregnant and wow this pregnancy is kicking my butt compared to my singleton. Im ALWAYS sore and uncomfortable and its only going to get harder but im so grateful im growing two babies.
Where do i write my failed sway? Cant seem to find the link.
Oh gosh I'm sorry it didn't go your way, but congrats on twin boys! I think twin boys are the coolest. http://genderdreaming.com/forum/add-your-girl-sway-/