planning our 3rd sway

hi :)

back again for the third time :) i have swayed pink twice before, first sway was successful (DD born october 2016) and second sway gave us an awesome opposite (DS born jan 2018)

planning to sway pink again but not too sure what i should be doing as last sway was an opposite and ive read that in that case you should switch some things mainly LE to pcos diet?

currently im 53.5kg with BMI of 20 so not a huge amount of weight to spare. (not pcos as far as im aware and not breastfeeding)

i didnt do exercise with either of my previous sways, but we've moved to a new area and now im walking the dog first thing every morning, i walk a circuit and it takes me around 50 mins, i hope this is ok? im not running or power-walking just normal pace.

diet wise im doing black coffee (4 cups a day) diet coke, 2 meals, no snacks and mainly vegetarian. (i have a small amount of chicken once a week and white fish once a week but can drop these if needed and can add eggs if needed) ive stayed away from sugary foods which i did use previously on LE such as pop tarts and snack-a-jacks etc.. and switched white rice to brown rice, pasta to whole wheat pasta and white bread/pitta's to whole grain.

dinner times are usually along the lines of a pitta/salad with some houmous, teatime is usually a jacket potato with a small amount of cheese and lots of salad (no dressing) with low-fat yoghurt or fruit for something sweet. totals around 1500cals 50g protein and 30-60g fat, no supps or medications just folic acid. happy to receive any advice on diet :) feeling a bit lost if im honest!!

at the moment i get up and do my walk on an empty stomach, should i eat when i get back (around 8am) or wait till dinner time? i have been waiting just having black coffee through the morning and eating around 11am then second meal at tea time 5pm(ish) but with exercise been a new thing this time round im not sure if im supposed to eat right after doing it?

attempts wise planning to do 1 attempt at positive opk, 1st sway (successful) was 1 attempt doing at home AI and second (opposite) we just dtd e4d, so im assuming sticking with just 1 attempt is probably the best way to go for us. unless its different advice after an opposite?

i hope im not completely on the wrong track but if i am im happy to change things :) only thing im not keen on doing is alcohol, i know it sways but ive never drank and dont feel comfortable taking up alcohol while ttc.

the exercise is a big change for me as is drinking so much coffee (was 1 a day last time, now 4) but other than that i feel like things are very similar to my last sway, im still willing to try though! and if we have another boy my youngest gets his "other shoe" to pair up with :heart:

Hey welcome back. Its so interesting to see how u swayed successful once and not the other- just shows no matter u do, nothing is 100%
With your two sways did u notice you did something anything differently? What was your main sway tactics with successful girl, how long etc?
From what ive read sounds like your doing the right stuff but nit sure if a failed sways affects anything so im sure others will advise you properly.

Hi and thankyou :) yes just because you have 1 sway work does not mean anything when you sway again!! same thing for if you have a failed sway, it does not mean that a future sway wont work, each time you're starting over from scratch.

the main difference between my 2 sways was how we conceived, my successful sway was 1 attempt done using AI where as our opposite came from dtd normally every 4 days through the month. so maybe in our case all the extra bd contributed.. who knows!!

my successful sway was over 12 weeks on the LE diet and 1 attempt, i was also not getting much sleep at the time which probably went in my favour for pink.

True vice versa works too
Sorry what does AI stand for?
Interesting comment about sleep, didnt know that plays a part. I swayed pink with 1 attempt, hoping all is well and i can update after 9 months.
Good luck with your next sway attempt, hope it goes your way xx

Can you bump this for me? I'm sorry I want to give you my best effort!

Hi Atomic no worries :) im happy to wait, id really appreciate your advice if you get a spare moment :) but i dont want to be a drain on your time!!

Well, I really can't sign off on starting a sway diet so soon after having had a baby, may make it take longer for fertility to return.

yes I do want you on the alternate diet and I want you eating 50-60 g protein, 50-60 g fat, and 1800-2000 calories for now (or even up this more if you're breastfeeding - I know you're not 4 but just for those who are reading this). Like I said, I am not super thrilled with dieting this soon postpartum and this is verymuch true if you are nursing.

yes that's a very good level of exercise, if you can extend to 60 min even better but if you can't, 50 is still going to be enough.

when exercising in the morning you can eat before or after, just not both. Do whichever will work better for you. You don't have to eat if you can stand not to but I think weight will fly off if you don't eat at least something

You never know, though, it may not have been e4d that swayed blue for you, there's a huge element of luck in all this and you can flip a coin two times and have it come up heads one time and tails another time. Even if you were 70-30 set for girls it very well may have been it just didn't go your way this time and no need to change anything. Totally up to you if you want to try one attempt of course!

No worries on the alcohol.

The thing with swaying is, just like coin flips you really can do nothing any different and end up with a different result. Even if we were getting 90% success it would be the case that 10% of the time we'd still get an opposite! Good luck and pink dust headed your way!

Thankyou Atomic :) my periods are already back but if they disappear or go funny i know to ease off on diet and wait a while.
our usual age gap is around 14 months which means i need to start now if im to build up the 12+weeks on diet, which i definitely want to do, im prepared to cut some sway tactics (alcohol bin one) but time on diet is something i want to stick too :)

so glad the exercise is ok!! i can do the walking no problem but i know if i had to start running or anything more high intensity id injure myself pretty much straight away :-/

agree completely on the coin flip, we have 1 boy and 1 girl from doing almost identical sways, i can use opk's (even though im not the biggest fan of them) so was thinking start out with 1 attempt and then switch back to e4d if nothing after 3-4 ttc cycles.

Thankyou again for your advice, i really appreciate it :heart:

Wishing you lots of luck 4blue xx when are you planning to start ttc? We may be on the same timeframe I'm hoping for June.

Hi Kitten :) thankyou :heart: im looking at around June time to start too, building up my time on diet and exercise at the moment!! hows it all going for you? good luck and pink dust xx

Oh yay we might be ttc together!
Yep same here building up time on diet and exercise after a break for around a month over Easter.
Fx for healthy pinkies for both of us x

always good to have Ttc buddies :) are you doing pcos diet too? my other sways were both standard LE so im trying to get to grips with the new diet, no more using pop tarts and snack-a-jacks to boost calories for me!!

Yes mostly doing the alternate diet now but still a few empty calories like wine and some sweets if I really really crave them- but sticking to whole grains lots of fruit and veg and even some small amounts of chicken and fish once per week as I've had an opposite on the crash and burn style le diet before. I'm using almond milk instead of full fat milk because I cannot stand full cream dairy!

3 meals per day 1800 cals and trying really hard to do 60 mins exercise and adding in coffee and wine x
I've got hubby on ole and soy milk too.

I think your plan looks really good for pink! I'd feel confident with all you are doing especially as you are ttc within 6 months pp I really think that's a great tactic for pink xx

the empty calories are harder to do on the alternate diet arent they!! im not a huge fan of dairy either i might give almond milk a go, my youngest was an opposite on the normal LE diet too, ive had 1 successful LE sway and 1 opposite.
im also exercising for the first time this time :) just walking though, pretty sure id need an ambulance if tried to run for an hour!!
Ttc so soon does seem to sway pink but all our babies have been conceived within 6-8 months of me giving birth and we still have 5 boys!! (and 3 girls) so i really think we are strongly set for blue.. but im still willing to try :) your sway sounds great fingers crossed for you!! xx

The almond milk has been so pink friendly that we had to drop it from blue sways. :agree:

thankyou Atomic i'l give it a go :)

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Originally Posted by 4blue2pink

Thankyou Atomic :) my periods are already back but if they disappear or go funny i know to ease off on diet and wait a while.
our usual age gap is around 14 months which means i need to start now if im to build up the 12+weeks on diet, which i definitely want to do, im prepared to cut some sway tactics (alcohol bin one) but time on diet is something i want to stick too :)

so glad the exercise is ok!! i can do the walking no problem but i know if i had to start running or anything more high intensity id injure myself pretty much straight away :-/

agree completely on the coin flip, we have 1 boy and 1 girl from doing almost identical sways, i can use opk's (even though im not the biggest fan of them) so was thinking start out with 1 attempt and then switch back to e4d if nothing after 3-4 ttc cycles.

Thankyou again for your advice, i really appreciate it [emoji813]

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Please what is e4d?

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Having unprotected sex every 4 days either in a Monday-Thursday pattern (for better odds of conception) or Monday-Friday pattern (for better odds of pink) You don't have to BD those days per se but that is how you count the days.

i really like the almond milk :) cant stand cows milk so its nice to find one i like, quick question though.. the only almond milk i can find is the Alpro roasted original one, its low sugar and doesnt say its fortified but looking at the nutrient info it has calcium, vitamin D, E, B2 and B12 added at 15% reference value per 100ml of milk (im not quite sure what that means.. i assume 15% of recommended daily amount?) is this still ok for pink? and how much do pink swayers drink? im doing 1 glass with dinner but can change more/less if needed.

They are all fortified like that but people were getting girls with it anyway. Just keep it to part of your diet, like 1 glass a day and it will be fine.