PGD options for the UK Mums

Hi

So I have 3 boys and my youngest is now 6. I thought I would be happy to stop at 3 but I keep thinking what if I had a girl... so we are looking at PGD abroad. I have done extensive research and looked at Rainsbury clinic here but the cost is £15000 for one treatment and he's adamant I'd probably need two. I've looked at going direct to the Team Miracle in Cyprus or Crete Fertility in Crete and both options are much cheaper. However I just don't have the time with 3 boys to go abroad and do the whole treatment there. I looked at Prague but both clinics stressed it's illegal there. US is an option but again it's finding the time and what if it fails first time? Bangkok was also an option but they only transfer 1 egg and the do FET so I'd need to go back twice, but I like the idea of a long extended trip in Asia, but prices were nearly £10,000, I would've thought Asia would be cheaper, plus I just don't know about the language barrier, and it being in Bangkok.

So I have settled on Dubai, I am in contact with a clinic in London who work with Fakih IVF in Dubai and if all goes to plan will start the meds just before school holidays and then we as a family will go to Dubai and spend 7-10 days there and see what happens... I hope to transfer two embryos. This was a cheaper option - I think roughly costs for UK and Dubai treatment would amount to £10,000. Not including flights and accommodation.


I'd love to hear anyone else's research and thoughts.. It's such a mine field out there and totally mind boggling! All the posts I've been googling are really old, so it would be nice to get updated success stories abroad :)

Don't touch Rainsbury - he's just a middle man that charges you a fortune for doing what you can easily source yourself, scans, bloods and meds. I know a couple of peole who used him! I really would just go directly to whatever clinic you are choosing rather than using a London clinic who work with another clinic. If you become a dream member, only $20 you will be able to read lots of recent success stories and gets lots of support. In the time I've been on here, not sure very many people have gone to Dubai though. Good luck.

It really isn't, and you aren't really getting it done under one roof with him (he used to work withi Genesis, but changed clinics around 3 years ago). It's much better to have a relationship with the clinc you are actually cycling with. You'd have to do monitoring in the UK anyway, if you were off to Cyprus, US, CZ ...but there are lots of places you can get it done - you couldn't fly out without monitoring unless you were planning to do all stimming abroad which would be daft. Good luck, I remember what a minefield it seems at first - but worth it in the end! x

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Originally Posted by Martha

Hi

So I have 3 boys and my youngest is now 6. I thought I would be happy to stop at 3 but I keep thinking what if I had a girl... so we are looking at PGD abroad. I have done extensive research and looked at Rainsbury clinic here but the cost is £15000 for one treatment and he's adamant I'd probably need two. I've looked at going direct to the Team Miracle in Cyprus or Crete Fertility in Crete and both options are much cheaper. However I just don't have the time with 3 boys to go abroad and do the whole treatment there. I looked at Prague but both clinics stressed it's illegal there. US is an option but again it's finding the time and what if it fails first time? Bangkok was also an option but they only transfer 1 egg and the do FET so I'd need to go back twice, but I like the idea of a long extended trip in Asia, but prices were nearly £10,000, I would've thought Asia would be cheaper, plus I just don't know about the language barrier, and it being in Bangkok.

So I have settled on Dubai, I am in contact with a clinic in London who work with Fakih IVF in Dubai and if all goes to plan will start the meds just before school holidays and then we as a family will go to Dubai and spend 7-10 days there and see what happens... I hope to transfer two embryos. This was a cheaper option - I think roughly costs for UK and Dubai treatment would amount to £10,000. Not including flights and accommodation. I feel better with this idea and I believe it's more 'discreet' if I return pregnant from Dubai [emoji4] Rainsbury was a good option because it's all done for you but the idea of Dubai just sounds like a nice break and they have lots of positive feedback. Plus I don't think it's illegal there, they can't freeze embryos unless you ask the ministry or health so that may also be an option and go back on our next half term.

I'd love to hear anyone else's research and thoughts.. It's such a mine field out there and totally mind boggling! All the posts I've been googling are really old, so it would be nice to get updated success stories abroad :)

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Hi there , after having 4 boys in Australia I chose team miracle in cyprus and I did 9 days of stims before I travelled then was in cyprus for 9 days I was lucky enough to get a fresh transfer , out of 10 eggs retrieved i had 7 embryos make it to testing and 3 healthy girls . I put back two and had 2 heartbeats at 8 weeks however I had one not make it to 10 weeks I am currently 28 weeks with much awaited baby girl . I also have one in the freezer in cyprus . What if you make girls in Dubai but you can’t freeze them so if the one/two you Transfer don’t take ( worst case ) then you have to do the whole thing again ? I felt good having one back up in cyprus and I would only have to do FET ... good luck whatever you decide xxx


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thanks, oh ok yeah lots of variables where in australia will you be visiting? im in South Australia its lovely! dubai sounds good i was just thinking about the freezing part and thought cyprus is closer to you good luck !

Hi Martha,
Sounds like you are in the same boat as me, just a step ahead. I've been in touch w Rainsbury, but also hearing that I'd need 3 rounds (23k), as I'm 42 and only want a single transfer as DH definitely doesn't want twins. I believe he works with Crete Fertility Centre. We've done the initial screening he requests (c£400), but I'm not receiving a breakdown of costs or full information of next steps, just an invoice before we go on. I can't find out that much information online about the Crete Fertility Centre. I think I just need more 'handholding'! Please could you tell me the clinic you use here in London, as would be very interested to explore the Dubai option. Do you know if they also offer a 'package' if you buy more rounds? Thank you!!

Hi MB
I know exactly how your feeling... I felt Rainsbury was pushing me to buy into 2 or 3 rounds of IVF and I am 35 and no fertility issues but he still wasn't convinced, my husband says maybe he's managing expectations but it's a lot of money to pay when you might succeed first time...
I emailed Crete Fertility and they were helpful, they asked me to contact a Dr here who could help me out. I did email him but his reply was a bit delayed and by then I was already keen on Dubai. I emailed Dubai (Fakih IVF) and I have been sending emails back and forth so I feel quite familiar with the process, Ghina has been really helpful and reassuring. She told me to contact a Dr in London and her PA told me they work with Fakih and to book in a consultation (which was a 5 weeks wait). When I met with my Dr she put us right at ease and told me the options that I could use... Dubai, Cyprus and USA - all places that legally allow gender selection. She then did a scan and looked at my dates for travel and told me to come back next month for bloods and husband duties and I guess we will get the ball rolling from there! She will be in contact with Dubai and will tell me when to start meds and to do the trigger injection and she will have the timings all work out (which was my biggest worry). All I need to do is get to Dubai and to the clinic on the correct date! It sounded easy and I was relieved, and we immediately warmed to her. She didn't give me options for second round, but suggested I freeze eggs so I can go back next time. Her costs are a pay as we go, so the consultation was @400 and scans @220 and meds ranging from 1500 - 2500. She might be morse costly than getting the meds direct from the overseas clinic but you still have to get scanned and send reports back that it just seemed easier this way plus my husband wants to be sure that I am looked after so I don't over stimulate or experience any problems. I would drop the Doctor in London an email and mention you want to do IVF abroad. Let me know how you get on, she can point you in the direction of the right clinic too... she did favour Fakih as their success rates are good and even suggested the one egg would be fine because they do so well also but spoke highly of the one in Cyprus. Let me know how you get on. :) I'll PM you the details x

Dear MB, please don't use Rainsbury. I also spoke to him and have also met someone IRW who used him - cost her twice as much and sadly she didn't get pg. You can go and see Adrian Lower who is fab for all pre-testing etc - he's great and very open to GS and works closely with Dr Potter (google him). Don't want to worry you but at 42 it will be tough and you might need more than one go, but it can happen. Good luck x

Hi Martha, i’ll Be following your story. I just had a failed transfer of two xy in Cyprus and am thinking if I have to go through another cycle I would go somewhere where they do full testing. Can you tell me how much are they asking for the treatment?

Thank you for this thread, it is very helpful. I just discovered I'm pregnant with DS2, after swaying for a year for a girl. I'm thrilled to have another baby, but not willing to take my chances of another a failed sway next time (we want 3 children), so I'm looking into my options. I'll be 40 or 41 when the time comes so need to make a good choice as I won't have time or money to spare. Martha, could you PM me the details of the doctor in London, and any other relevant info? I'd really appreciate it. Thanks!

Me again:) Martha, your price breakdown is so useful! Would you mind sharing the cost of the UK treatments as well? Just trying to get my head around total potential cost...thank you, and good luck x

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Originally Posted by naturediva

Thank you for this thread, it is very helpful. I just discovered I'm pregnant with DS2, after swaying for a year for a girl. I'm thrilled to have another baby, but not willing to take my chances of another a failed sway next time (we want 3 children), so I'm looking into my options. I'll be 40 or 41 when the time comes so need to make a good choice as I won't have time or money to spare. Martha, could you PM me the details of the doctor in London, and any other relevant info? I'd really appreciate it. Thanks!

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I'm not totally sure, given that that poster has only 7 posts and they are all from a short time period, that this is a legit poster. I don't want you to waste time with someone who is possibly posing as a legit member but may be promoting a certain clinic or doc instead.

Can anyone else help?

Hi martha how did you get on with your transfer? would love to hear about it.

Hi Martha, how did your scan go? Was it a success? I’m very interested with how you got on? I’m looking at clinics after 6 failed attempts at gender selection for a girl. I don’t want to get it wrong the last time!

That’s fantastic news congratulations! So you’d definitely recommend the clinic in Dubai? I’ve had 2 cycles with North Cyprus IVF and 4 with Crete. I found Crete very nice and professional but for some reason we didn’t get the results. The last 2 attempts they tried a short regime of medication and I ended up with nothing to transfer. It was very disappointing. I have 4 fabulous boys already and I’m 42 so I feel time is ticking away. It’s very hard to work out which clinics are the best and I’m scared of trying some where new and starting from scratch all over again. Also there’s the added stress of having to leave the children because we can’t afford for all of us to travel each time.

I have done the last 6 attempts with Rainsbury. He’s been very kind and helpful but I’m starting to feel like I need to take control a bit. I want to make sure I talk to all the clinics going forward because something isn’t working out for me. And like you said, yes I am very fed up with all the injections. I’m fed up with waiting all the time too! I will email the clinic in Dubai and see what they suggest. I’m sure at this stage all will work out for you. Best of luck, I will let you know what I decide. Thank you for the doctor info.x

Ah yes, I would deffo recommend doing it yourself over Rainsbury. I am sure he's nice but he makes a lot of money and you can get the same stimms from the doctor here and she will be in touch with Fakih with your progress and scans etc. I also forwarded the details or made sure I was CC'd too. You'll deffo be in good hands. I didn't need to worry really. But as I was on a timeline as we pre-booked flights I had to make sure everything went like clockwork and thankfully it did. Also you'll save money this way and may even have the option for FET should fresh transfer fail. x

Hi Martha, are you getting my PM's? It says on my account that I can't send until my posts get to 5! I sent you another Monday but I'm not sure if it sent. Just a quick questions about the Dubai clinic. Ghina sent me the cost for IVF and the NGS, just wondering were there any additional surprise costs? I know the US price separately for ICSI, anesthetic etc. Also was it much more when you froze and returned for the transfer? I haven't been given prices for this yet and I'm impatient! Thank you again for all your answers, really appreciate it.

Just to update you that I am now currently 30 weeks with twin girls (confirmed at the scans.. phew) all seems to be progressing well so far. I have been so lucky that this all worked out first time and the research, injections, pessaries seem like such a long time ago now and that I am almost on the other side... I wish everyone else the best success, sending baby dust to all :) x

Martha, congratulations on your twin girls! Such amazing news! I am new on here and am struggling to find information out about finding a suitable monitoring clinic in the UK? I would be eternally grateful if you would pm me any info you may have on this to help? Thank you so much!

Hi Martha,

Just been reading your story.
I’m really really new to all this and would love to know a bit more on the Dubai clinic. As this i think think this is the clinic I’m going to go for. I would love twin boys.

Best wishes

DreamingOfBluee

Hello ladies, I wonder what options I have if I'm single?

Hi baffy did you not try the sway method?

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Originally Posted by DreamingOfBluee

Hi Martha,

Just been reading your story.
I’m really really new to all this and would love to know a bit more on the Dubai clinic. As this i think think this is the clinic I’m going to go for. I would love twin boys.

Best wishes

DreamingOfBluee

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I just wanted to reiterate that I was not entirely sure that this original poster was legit. We sometimes have people who pretend to be clients from certain clinics who come and have some miraculous success story. I hope it's not the case here but I can't let the rest of you go unwarned in case it was not a legitimate post.

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Originally Posted by Laura1433

Hi baffy did you not try the sway method?

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Some people just really cannot handle the possibility of an opposite. Since opposites are always possible with swaying, even under ideal circumstances, some people prefer to do IVF/PGD instead. :)