Atomic need help with girl sway

Hi Atomic! I’ve had 2 chemical pregnancies recently (my last cycle was the most recent). I was waiting one cycle and was going to try the next.
What should I do differently?
-I have been taking 300-600 mg coq10 for a couple weeks.
-folate
-fiber pills with each meal (2-3) i don’t track calories or macros ever but eat only vegetarian
-I’m still breastfeeding my 20 month old and my milk is barely There—-she gets so frustrated so I started taking mother’s milk supplements (Will this sway boy)?
-only alcohol on weekends or special occasions
-magnesium citrate at night because I’ve always had (ibs constipation). Does this sway boy?

What should I add/drop? I did 1 antihistamine pill at positive opk when I conceived my daughter so I thought about doing that again?
Thanks for the help! J




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Can you please take a sample day and add it up for me?? I need to have some sort of idea how many calories, grams of protein, and fat you are eating.

If you are not tracking you need to drop fiber.

I suspect that if your milk is scanty you are not eating enough. Eat more, nurse more, drop the mother's milk supplements.

How much magnesium?

Do not add in antihistamine. That will cut odds of conception too much.

Is your cycle regular?? Can you tell me more about your LP?

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Can you please take a sample day and add it up for me?? I need to have some sort of idea how many calories, grams of protein, and fat you are eating.

If you are not tracking you need to drop fiber.

I suspect that if your milk is scanty you are not eating enough. Eat more, nurse more, drop the mother's milk supplements.

How much magnesium?

Do not add in antihistamine. That will cut odds of conception too much.

Is your cycle regular?? Can you tell me more about your LP?

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Thanks! Yes, I’ll try! Honestly, I’ve never counted even with my last sway because I probably eat more than I should some days and less others. So I just never stress about it.
Why should I drop fiber if not tracking? Does it take out too many nutrients?
My weight stays around 115-117 eating like that which is what I’ve always been. I’m not losing weight so I don’t think I’m eating too little and I’ve been running/walking/cycle 60+ min about 4-5 days a week.
Magnesium (oxide/citrate) is 1000-1500 mg

I can stop the mother’s milk—-I was only nursing her 1-2x a days and when I got pregnant 2x (early losses 5-6wks) my milk took a huge dive. Also, probably from working out too?

My cycle was pretty regular 27-28 days and I think ovulation around 13-14. But this cycle after the early loss, I think I just ovulated yesterday or today which is day 18/19 from when I started bleeding. Hoping next cycle is Back to normal.

My husband does take creatine and other supplements and is huge in working out and lifting weights and he won’t change that.


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If your weight is staying steady you're ~probably~ ok with what you're eating. It is just that I cannot sign off on anyone's diet without that information.

Yes, the fiber can take too much of the fat from your diet and this can affect milk and your ability to conceive as well.

Pregnancy and working out both can affect your milk negatively. Hopefully dropping the fiber will correct for that and I think it will come back over time if you nurse a bit more often. (or not! Often it comes back on its own even without that.)

Not unusual to have slightly later O after an early loss. That doesn't hurt anything.

No worries about hubby's supplements, we have not found those to make a difference. In fact a lot of weight lifters have wayyy more girls for reasons we don't understand.

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If your weight is staying steady you're ~probably~ ok with what you're eating. It is just that I cannot sign off on anyone's diet without that information.

Yes, the fiber can take too much of the fat from your diet and this can affect milk and your ability to conceive as well.

Pregnancy and working out both can affect your milk negatively. Hopefully dropping the fiber will correct for that and I think it will come back over time if you nurse a bit more often. (or not! Often it comes back on its own even without that.)

Not unusual to have slightly later O after an early loss. That doesn't hurt anything.

No worries about hubby's supplements, we have not found those to make a difference. In fact a lot of weight lifters have wayyy more girls for reasons we don't understand.

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Thank you! What about the magnesium? Should I stop that because it sways boy or can I keep taking?
Also, I have done the occasional body pump class (I did today actually because my friends wanted me to join them) —-will taking 1 every class couple weeks away boy too much? I’ve been doing cardio the other times.


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Thank you! What about the magnesium? Should I stop that because it sways boy or can I keep taking?
Also, I have done the occasional body pump class (I did today actually because my friends wanted me to join them) —-will taking 1 every class couple weeks away boy too much? I’ve been doing cardio the other times.


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Okay, I just tracked lunch (my first meal) other than coffee with almond milk this morning.
And yikes haha, I’m eating more than I thought!

Lunch: 980 calories, 41 grams of fat, 36 g protein

I Have yet to eat dinner (my second meal)—-How many calories, protein, fat should I eat again?
I’m only nursing 1x if that and I honestly don’t know if she’s getting anything at all. I doubt she is because she just gets mad and pulls off after a minute


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Thank you! What about the magnesium? Should I stop that because it sways boy or can I keep taking?
Also, I have done the occasional body pump class (I did today actually because my friends wanted me to join them) —-will taking 1 every class couple weeks away boy too much? I’ve been doing cardio the other times.


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GAH I read that wrong the first time - you are OVERDOSING yourself with magnesium. I thought that said 150 mg, not 1500!!! Wean back off that IMMEDIATELY, that is an insane amount of magnesium and can cause you serious harm.

The occasional body pump class is no big deal.

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Okay, I just tracked lunch (my first meal) other than coffee with almond milk this morning.
And yikes haha, I’m eating more than I thought!

Lunch: 980 calories, 41 grams of fat, 36 g protein

I Have yet to eat dinner (my second meal)—-How many calories, protein, fat should I eat again?
I’m only nursing 1x if that and I honestly don’t know if she’s getting anything at all. I doubt she is because she just gets mad and pulls off after a minute


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No, that's all good, I'm relieved you're eating more than you thought.

I like all nursing moms on 1800-2000 cals, 50-60 g protein and fat. So if you eat that much again, maybe a bit less fat the next meal, you will be right where you should be.

If you want to continue nursing I'd try nursing more often. 1x a day may not be enough to continue making milk. Nursing does tend to sway pink even if you only do it a little. It's great you're eating more than you thought, though. I was concerned that without tracking you might not be getting adequate nutrients.

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No, that's all good, I'm relieved you're eating more than you thought.

I like all nursing moms on 1800-2000 cals, 50-60 g protein and fat. So if you eat that much again, maybe a bit less fat the next meal, you will be right where you should be.

If you want to continue nursing I'd try nursing more often. 1x a day may not be enough to continue making milk. Nursing does tend to sway pink even if you only do it a little. It's great you're eating more than you thought, though. I was concerned that without tracking you might not be getting adequate nutrients.

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That’s actually the magnesium dosing on the bottle pills = 1400 mg (it’s for constipation) I didn’t take every day, just a couple times a week.
I was just curious if lots of magnesium swayed boy and if so, I’ll stop taking it. Thank you! I’ll try to see if she’ll nurse little more often too!


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That’s actually the magnesium dosing on the bottle pills = 1400 mg (it’s for constipation) I didn’t take every day, just a couple times a week.
I was just curious if lots of magnesium swayed boy and if so, I’ll stop taking it. Thank you! I’ll try to see if she’ll nurse little more often too!


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I meant to say, dosing on bottle says 4 pills =1400 mg


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Even if it's on the bottle I cannot ever recommend that for anyone. I'm assuming since it's meant in the short term for constipation it's ok, but that much magnesium daily for more than just the shortest time frame would be harmful, possibly even fatal.

As it is, that would cause most people - even with constipation - horrific diarrhea!

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Even if it's on the bottle I cannot ever recommend that for anyone. I'm assuming since it's meant in the short term for constipation it's ok, but that much magnesium daily for more than just the shortest time frame would be harmful, possibly even fatal.

As it is, that would cause most people - even with constipation - horrific diarrhea!

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Thanks! I didn’t usually take 4 just 2, but it did say 4 on the bottle. I won’t take that many anymore.

What about 1 pill 350 mg a couple times a week. Would that sway either way? I’d rather not take it at all if you see a lot of boys conceived with high magnesium.


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That dose is fine and safe. 350 or less is the most I ever see anyone take. I can't say how much it sways (likely not much if at all) but at least it's safe!

I don't have anyone take that level of magnesium, I like you guys to stay alive, LOL :) So I can't say if there are many boys vs. girls conceived on a high dose.

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That dose is fine and safe. 350 or less is the most I ever see anyone take. I can't say how much it sways (likely not much if at all) but at least it's safe!

I don't have anyone take that level of magnesium, I like you guys to stay alive, LOL :) So I can't say if there are many boys vs. girls conceived on a high dose.

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Thanks, I’ll quit taking it unless I really need it occasionally.
What about Almond milk? I’ve been doing frozen blueberries/raspberries mixed with about a cup of almond milk and stirring it up and it makes a slushy type Of treat. Is that too healthy for LE diet?


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All that is fine within limits! It's the limits that matter!

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All that is fine within limits! It's the limits that matter!

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Hi atomic, I’m on cd day 12 and still testing low fertility on the CB ovulation sticks. I used to have a 28 day cycle but after the 2 early losses/chemical my cycle was 31 days last cycle and ovulated day 17/18 I think (cycle after loss). I just assumed my cycle would go back to more normal now but it seems I won’t ovulate day 14 this cycle since my OPK was low this morning.
Does that mean my egg could be bad by later ovulation than normal?
I have been running/walking for at least an hour about 5x per week which is abnormal for me——could that delay ovulation?
I’m taking fiber pills at the 2 bigger meals I eat—-could it be that?
I was mostly worried about having an attempt if this egg could be bad (when I googled it said later ovulation could mean bad egg, as I’ll be 39 in 4 months).
My weight is about the same, 115

Thanks for the help!


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No. The whole "late ovulation = bad egg" firstly has been completely debunked (the reason why they thought there might be some correlation was because of the REASON for late ovulation, in many people it's associated with PCOS which causes poor egg quality. It was never the late ovulation that caused the egg quality, it was the reason why some people had a delayed ovulation. So if you're having delayed O for other reasons it is not associated with lower egg quality). Secondly, that isn't even delayed ovulation. Ovulation even up to CD 21 is totally normal and up to CD 35 is not even considered truly delayed in the classic sense of the world. Unfortunately many people online simply continue to report things that were debunked decades ago because they never bother to research, simply write up their webpages copying bad information from other sites and never do their own work.

Yes, upping exercise can make your ovulation delayed. If you're not eating enough fat, so can fiber. Go ahead and drop the fiber. I would keep going with the exercise as the benefits to your sway are so huge.

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No. The whole "late ovulation = bad egg" firstly has been completely debunked (the reason why they thought there might be some correlation was because of the REASON for late ovulation, in many people it's associated with PCOS which causes poor egg quality. It was never the late ovulation that caused the egg quality, it was the reason why some people had a delayed ovulation. So if you're having delayed O for other reasons it is not associated with lower egg quality). Secondly, that isn't even delayed ovulation. Ovulation even up to CD 21 is totally normal and up to CD 35 is not even considered truly delayed in the classic sense of the world. Unfortunately many people online simply continue to report things that were debunked decades ago because they never bother to research, simply write up their webpages copying bad information from other sites and never do their own work.

Yes, upping exercise can make your ovulation delayed. If you're not eating enough fat, so can fiber. Go ahead and drop the fiber. I would keep going with the exercise as the benefits to your sway are so huge.

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Okay thank you! I’ll drop the fiber. Do you think I should do e4day since I’m not certain when I’ll ovulate? Like tonight and Tuesday or just stick with once at peak on the clear blue monitor?


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It's your call to make. I am extremely pleased with the results we've gotten with e4d and I don't think it's a "lesser" choice, so anyone who isn't sure when they ovulate, it's a great option. If doing the e4d in the 72 hour pattern makes you nervous you do have the option of going to every 96.

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It's your call to make. I am extremely pleased with the results we've gotten with e4d and I don't think it's a "lesser" choice, so anyone who isn't sure when they ovulate, it's a great option. If doing the e4d in the 72 hour pattern makes you nervous you do have the option of going to every 96.

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Thank you! I’ve been testing with clear blue opk 2x a day and it’s always been low fertility, then on Tuesday the 13th I took another test at 8 pm and got a Peak (is that normal to go from low to peak with no flashing Highs?). I tested with a regular Wondfo type strip at same time and it was dark but not clearly positive.
We went ahead and had an attempt the night of the 13th/peak.
The next morning, Wednesday the 14th I had a positive with the regular opk. I had such little cm that I couldn’t tell ovulation by that.
My question is which test was correct for LH peak? Clear blue or the regular opk the next morning?
We had another attempt on Friday/16th because I thought I had already ovulated and that he wasn’t going to release in me (but he did and I had a big O). So now I’m worried about that and the second attempt. My CM was a watery milk consistency by then so I’m assuming I already ovulated?
Praying only the first attempt counted because I conceived a boy with e4d even when I was on clomid and 2 girls with only 1 attempt.
Thanks for the help!


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Yes, it's normal and not at all uncommon to go straight from low to peak.

I can't tell you which day you ovulated. That's just beyond my ability to know. OPK and CM consistency are just not reliable to the day like that. They can get us in the ballpark but we can't pin it down so tightly like that. I know some sites like to pretend you can, but they are not telling the truth - in studies, even highly trained experts could not judge their day of ovulation better than one out of three times.

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Yes, it's normal and not at all uncommon to go straight from low to peak.

I can't tell you which day you ovulated. That's just beyond my ability to know. OPK and CM consistency are just not reliable to the day like that. They can get us in the ballpark but we can't pin it down so tightly like that. I know some sites like to pretend you can, but they are not telling the truth - in studies, even highly trained experts could not judge their day of ovulation better than one out of three times.

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Thank you! Is it more likely that I would have ovulated 24-36 hours after peak? Like if we had sex Tuesday night(I had just caught the brining of peak) and sex Friday afternoon (around noon). Which sperm would be more likely to fertilize the egg? Even if for some reason I could have ovulated Friday after a Tuesday night peak —-would Sperm from Tuesday more likely fertilize or is fresh Sperm faster to the egg?


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Yes, that's the most likely time when people ovulate.

Both sperm had a chance at the egg. I can't tell you which ones. Sperm do take some time to capacitate and make it to the egg, but the earlier sperm may have died off too, or most likely there was a mix in there. Since we don't know when the egg dropped I can't tell you if the Friday shot had a chance or not. Probably it didn't, but I just have no way to know that.

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Yes, that's the most likely time when people ovulate.

Both sperm had a chance at the egg. I can't tell you which ones. Sperm do take some time to capacitate and make it to the egg, but the earlier sperm may have died off too, or most likely there was a mix in there. Since we don't know when the egg dropped I can't tell you if the Friday shot had a chance or not. Probably it didn't, but I just have no way to know that.

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Thank you! I didn’t end up pregnant and I was bummed because it was the most I’ve ever run and I was so proud of myself haha! Oh well, I guess it was for the best because I ended up testing positive for Covid the day after my period started. I would have been terrified having a high fever pregnant. Anyway, I got sicker than i thought I would since I’m heathy (I had all the symptoms other than bad breathing issues) I have been taking vitamin C, Elderberry, zinc, Heath drinks, vitamin c packets etc this week (the week of my period) and also not exercising obviously. I’m starting to feel better but not sure when I’ll be able to exercise again (I only had 3 bad flu like days but I do feel weak). My question is (assuming my husband doesn’t end up catching Covid in the next couple weeks) would attempting to conceive this cycle be bad for sway? Since I’ve been taking vitamins (no prenatal but the things I listed and only this week) and not exercising. I should ovulate next weekend and don’t know what I should do. Does the month after being sick sway? I’m on cycle day 7 and should ovulate around cd 16/17
Thanks!


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I can't say. I don't know if Covid is harmful just before pregnancy and I can't know if any of those things will mess with your sway. I'd be inclined to wait a month but I know waiting is hard. My gut says wait but only if you can stand it!