Did I wreck my boy sway?

[Hobbermittens]

So yesterday was CD9. I had wanted to BD every 2 days during my fertile time, and I asked DH to abstain 4 days before our first attempt.I had miscounted when we had last DTD, and yesterday was the 4th day. So we DTD last night. Now I am stressed that it was too early! I wish we had waited... now it will be CD9, CD11, CD13 and possible CD14. I will most likely O on CD14... so was last night really bad?? The other thing was, DH was asleep and I had to wake him, so there was no caffeine before the attempt, and I used preseed instead of eggwhite, which I am also regretting. I did BSF, though. And had a big O before and right at the same time as DH.

Did I ruin my sway? I know most people say to only DTD close to O, but I have had 2 months of BFNs with only 2 attempts, so I wanted to add more. But now I wonder if the "deposit" DH made is even going to survive until O day, and maybe all that will survive will be the girls.

[rainbowflower]

no, that doesn't sound too bad to me.. if you want to DTD on OV day too I'd try and make it at least 36hrs since your previous attempt

if today is CD9 and you don't OV until CD14, the swimmers that went in there today will most likely all be dead by OV time anyway. It won't be "just the girls" that survive either... girls don't survive longer than boys. It's just that the more recent deposits will be "fresher" and more active, and have the nutrient supplies to be the ones that get to the egg first

[zanacal]

I think it sounds perfectly fine!

[Hobbermittens]

Thanks, ladies. I just wish I had released DH or used a condom or counted so that the 4 day abstinence was closer to O day. Oh well.

Zanacal, how did you DTD when you got your boys?

Rainbow, I may sound dumb for asking this, but how does that work, exactly, with the fresher sperm being there to replace the older ones? I mean, I imagine it as all the sperm batches lined up, so that the older stuff has first dibbs on the egg. Is that not correct? I mean, are they all mixed up in there or what?

[atomic sagebrush]

They are all mixed together in there, it's like if you are mixing colors of jelly beans in a big jar and occasionally scooping some out to use - the jellybeans are kinda sorta in layers but not strictly speaking and some old ones are going to fall off to the sides - it's not like there are little compartments in there or anything. At some point the oldest ones die and are eventually dealt with. But the sperm itself is like cycling through all the time, some older, some newer.

[atomic sagebrush]

So yesterday was CD9. I had wanted to BD every 2 days during my fertile time, and I asked DH to abstain 4 days before our first attempt.I had miscounted when we had last DTD, and yesterday was the 4th day. So we DTD last night. Now I am stressed that it was too early! I wish we had waited... now it will be CD9, CD11, CD13 and possible CD14. I will most likely O on CD14... so was last night really bad?? The other thing was, DH was asleep and I had to wake him, so there was no caffeine before the attempt, and I used preseed instead of eggwhite, which I am also regretting. I did BSF, though. And had a big O before and right at the same time as DH.

Did I ruin my sway? I know most people say to only DTD close to O, but I have had 2 months of BFNs with only 2 attempts, so I wanted to add more. But now I wonder if the "deposit" DH made is even going to survive until O day, and maybe all that will survive will be the girls.

I think that's just fine! I like your every 2 day pattern. Just right!!

As you know I think preseed is better than EW anyway!!

There are studies out there that show more boys conceived with 5 day cutoffs (and I doubt much will survive that long anyway.) Sperm live the exact same length of time, this has been extensively studied since Shettles.

[rainbowflower]

the swimmers that are waiting will capacitate (undergo changes that prepares them to go catch the egg) at frequent intervals while they wait for the egg, "just in case" it pops out soon. They last as long after doing this... however, when the egg comes on the scene any that are in the tubes will start to capacitate to get ready to go for it. Batches that have been in there longer will have fewer numbers because too many will have capacitated too early.

[zanacal]

Zanacal, how did you DTD when you got your boys?

We DTD every 2 days starting on cd10. I knew I ovulated around cd14 (but only used OPKs for DS2 so wasn't monitoring closely) and I had a plan to DTD every other day starting on cd10 and if I hadn't got pregnant first month we would have started on cd9 or cd11! It's quite possible my DH was self releasing on opposite days though I didn't know this until I questioned him for our girl sway!

[TTC5]

Sounds fine to me!

[Hobbermittens]

the swimmers that are waiting will capacitate (undergo changes that prepares them to go catch the egg) at frequent intervals while they wait for the egg, "just in case" it pops out soon. They last as long after doing this... however, when the egg comes on the scene any that are in the tubes will start to capacitate to get ready to go for it. Batches that have been in there longer will have fewer numbers because too many will have capacitated too early.

Ah, so they don't survive long after capacitating? So what else do they do in there while they wait?? Being a sperm must be kind of boring.