HI Ladies, please help, Ph levels, lime, Rephresh, Aci

[Babystars]

Hey ladies, A big HI to you all, Im new to this site
I would dearly love to ask for your opinions.
I know a number of things come into swaying but I have a few questions regarding ph levels & jels etc. I recently got a Hanna tester (at least now I know were my Ph is lol unlike the silly strips that seem to change shades every few seconds) My Ph sits between 4.55- 5.75 please tell me is this considered within the Acidic range???
My dh is around 7.60-7.96 at present (under a lot of stress at work recently & on cranberry for past few weeks) Is this considered girl zone ?? Since getting the Hannah weve been busy testing We did a sample dh was 7.64 we added some lime douche to the sample & it went down to 6.14 within a couple of minutes. Another time we tried Aci jel 4.07ph, dh was 7.86, added some aci (out of interest)combined the ph came down to 5.65. However Ive also tried 1/2 applicator of Aci, my ph prior was 5.01. One hour after my ph shot to 5.69 another hour later 5.92 1 1/2 hours later 6.28 then 3 hours after that it went down to 5.89. The following morning it was 5.25. A few days later I tried lime douche, my ph was 5.56 ( lime was 3.85) 1 hour later I was 4.46, 2 hours later I was 5.02 but for the next couple of days I stayed within a range of 4.75-4.95ph. Ive tried rephresh as i know it has the buffers to help keep the ph low but I dont think it has the acids?? it only seems to last 2 days & my ph stays within 4.75-5ph. Can you mix up together both Rephresh & Aci Jel & use it instead of using 1 then adding the other later on??? Please if you ladies can answer these questions that would be awesome.We are ready to try next month. We dont know whether to use Rephresh & Aci as Aci is meant to have the Vinegar type Acids & if your ph spikes like mine with it, does that really matter to much because it has the acids in there. Or is it best to go with Lime?? I like rephresh for keeping things low but I worry that it hasnt got the acids. Then again is my ph within a good enough girlzone range. Thanks so much

[fresas]

repHresh is supposed to help keep vaginal pH at 4.5 . I think you are still considered in girl territory if you stay around 5. In general, not in swaying terms, anything below 7 on the pH scale is considered acidic, but I think the lower the better (generally) for girl swaying. It should probably be well below 7 for sways.

The lower the better for DH, but DH pH changes more easily than DW pH, I think. We have never been able to get my DH sperm below 7.5, but we haven't used supplements or mixed it with anything either.

I think it is good you are testing your lubricants now to see how they react with your body pH. Sylk makes my pH go up and I have never tried aci-jel. Sylk makes my pH go up even with repHresh (or so it seemed) so I know I can't use Sylk at all unless I want my pH to be 6 or higher. If your lubricants are making your pH go higher, you may not want to use them.

You can mix your repHresh and aci-jel in ways that work best for your body. A lot of women here use repHresh a couple of days before a sway then follow a sway with a small amount of repHresh. I used two full tubes 12 hours apart and conceived, though it wasn't an official sway. I also miscarried, but I'm pretty sure it wasn't related to the repHresh.

[Babystars]

Thanks so much Fresas for taking the time to reply, I'm really sorry to hear about your miscarriage I sure understand how painful that can be.I hope your next pregnancy goes really well
Thanks for your answers maybe its mother nature's way of making sure conception can occur by keeping mens ph at 7.5 or over. I read some Dh's are a 9ph
Thats great to hear you used Rephresh twice at 12 hour gaps and still managed to conceive. do you know of anyone that has mixed aci and rephresh together then added it, I wonder if that is safe ?or if you need to use them separately (a few hours apart) I just wondered if you could use them together perhaps the buffers in Rephresh would stop Aci spiking but at the same time you get the acids from Aci which I don't think Rephresh has.

[zanacal]

You can use Rephresh and Aci-jel together (I did!). Use the Rephresh every 2 to 3 days after AF (I would do it in the morning if your attempt it going to be in the evening) then use a small amount of Aci-jel an hour or so before you BD.

Once you've checked that this scenario works for you pH wise I would encourage you to stop with the testing and relax so you don't risk raising your testosterone. pH is just one aspect of your sway and it's very likely that other aspects are far more important anyway (like diet and lowering sperm count through frequent or abstain) so there's no need to get hung up on it. You can also take baby aspirin to help lower your pH from the inside out!

[atomic sagebrush]

hi and welcome Babystars!

pH of 4.5-5.5 is perfect and ideal for pink. I would not stress over pH in the high 5's either. Your husband's pH is also just right. We don't even KNOW what the right pH is for TTC a girl or if pH even matters! People have gotten opposites with "perfect" pH.

There is NO reliable scientific evidence that the vinegar acids (acetic acids) present in Acijel really make any difference whatsoever to gender ratio anyway. We've seen opposites with Acijel, it's no magic bullet by any means. I much prefer the RepHresh because it's designed to combine with stuff and actually chemically react to bring pH down, whereas with Acijel it just sort of mixes together and the pH is an average of the two. Do not use lime juice with RepHresh tho. Acijel and RepHresh, we tested and they work ok together for most people but like fresas points out, everyone's body is unique so you might want to test tehm together just to see how they work with your body chemistry.

I just want to point out that this is why I do not love the Hanna. You are stressing and obsessing about your pH too much! It is totally natural for there to be some fluctuation in pH and there is NO benefit to checking your pH for hours and days after DTD. The sperm is GONE up inside where jellies can't even reach within 15 minutes (vaginal pH DOES NOT diffuse up into the uterus and Fallopian tubes!) You are raising your testosterone thru the roof by getting so obsessed about these tiny and meaningless fluctuations in pH (and BTW testosterone has a lot better science from a lot more reliable sources than pH does - you are trading something that really matters for conceiving a girl, your testosterone levels, for something that may not even make any difference and is actually fine anyway, your pH!) There is NO difference between pH of 5.6, 5.8. 5.9, it's all pretty much the same neck of the pH woods, KWIM?? It would be freaking bizarre if your pH stayed exactly the same all the time and it's SOOO not how the body operates.

The fact is, ALL sperm, both X and Y, thrive in a pH that's in the 7's. That's WHY semen pH is naturally IN the 7's and so is CM at ovulation. Most people NEVER do any of this stuff and conceive both boys and girls. There is no proof whatsoever that X sperm "love" low pH and Y sperm "love" high pH - all sperm love neutral pH and that's where they thrive! X and Y sperm are equally hardy and live the same amount of time please read http://genderdreaming.com/forum/scie...m-y-sperm.html The so-called "science" that this pH stuff is based on was nothing more than a gigantic mistake by Dr. Shettles that has since been debunked. For more about Dr. Shettles BIG mistake, read http://genderdreaming.com/forum/gend...le-timing.html

My advice is to test the RepHresh and Acijel together and see how they work for you alone and also with DH semen in the mix. You also might want to test JUST RepHresh and JUST Acijel. (at maximum, test a couple hours after your attempt, not DAYS afterwards!!). If they seem to work well for you, then put your Hanna up for sale on eBay and just trust that the combo is going to do what it's designed to do and put pH out of your mind all together. Seriously, "swaycession" is the number one reason why good sways fail and you don't want to wreck your sway worrying over something that may not even matter whatsoever!!!

[atomic sagebrush]

Thanks so much Fresas for taking the time to reply, I'm really sorry to hear about your miscarriage I sure understand how painful that can be.I hope your next pregnancy goes really well
Thanks for your answers maybe its mother nature's way of making sure conception can occur by keeping mens ph at 7.5 or over. I read some Dh's are a 9ph
Thats great to hear you used Rephresh twice at 12 hour gaps and still managed to conceive. do you know of anyone that has mixed aci and rephresh together then added it, I wonder if that is safe ?or if you need to use them separately (a few hours apart) I just wondered if you could use them together perhaps the buffers in Rephresh would stop Aci spiking but at the same time you get the acids from Aci which I don't think Rephresh has.

We tested acijel and RepHresh and it did not seem to cause a pH spike. I know people have used both together, hope one of them will chime in.

Do not use RepHresh with lime juice tho, because RepHresh is designed to keep pH at 4.5-5 so it will actually raise pH of lime juice to that range - there's no point.

[Babystars]

Hi ladies, a HUGE thank you for your replies. Zanacal and Atomic thank you for this wonderful information. I had been looking on IG hence getting the Hanna & testing Ph levels etc. The only reason I have done the testing is because we only just got the Hanna a month ago & wanted to get an idea on levels before ttcing, no obsession just gaining info before we try next month- Id be quite happy to throw in Rephresh & not test. I dont agree with some things on Ig & by luck I found this awesome forum. Atomic I have read so many of your posts & couldnt agree more with your thoughts. This will be our last baby due to high risk issues before. We would dearly love to finish off with another dd but in saying that whatever we are given will be accepted with all our love We'd just like to tip the scales if we can so all your thoughts are very welcomed. I understand diet etc is part of it. But I'm happy with doing a loose sway, I don't want to obsess over foods & I'm a vegetarian (yes I ate piles of dairy, cheese,chocolate, potatoes & conceived girls with this) When I changed my diet-cut out most dairy,chocolate & potatoes to rid my eczema & it did disappear, I fell pregnant (a little earlier than we planned lol & got our darling boy but I've never tried swaying before. I also wondered if you ladies could answer another question I have regarding temps & ovulation. I'm sorry if this has been covered before on here, being new,I'm still finding my way around here lol. I read on IG that low temps can tend to sway blue. My temps are sitting mainly around 96.9 but the odd day at 97.3 before ovulation then 97.8. I have O pains for a couple of days & my temp drops then a couple of days later I have more O pains & my temp drops again (this is around day 12 then day 15) my cycles are around 31-33 days. Many thanks again for your thoughts & time

[atomic sagebrush]

I understand that the pH testing is totally an IG thing! I just wanted you to understand why it's not the best idea to take it to such extremes!!

with being a vegetarian!

The whole temps theory is a totally unproven theory based on another totally unproven theory that the IG gals have taken to places the original researcher never intended and probably would not even agree with anyway. ~IF~ having higher levels of progesterone sways pink, then it ~might~ tend to be reflected in a person's temps during some parts of the cycle, but there are TONS of other things that can also affect temps (weight loss or gain being chief among them.) I would much rather you guys focus on controlling the controllable with your sway and not stress/obsess over any numbers, pH, temps, or whatnot.

[Babystars]

Thanks so much Atomic, I did wonder if that might of been the case. There are articles out there that older woman are meant to have a higher chance of conceiving girls but aren't many older woman lower in progesterone
Another question I have, so sorry for all the questions, this is such a great site I feel I can ask away on here. Its reported that woman under stress also may possibly have a higher chance of conceiving girls due to cortisol levels but then if your under stress maybe testosterone levels could rise as well?
We are planning to do a cut off but Im not sure when to cut off as mentioned I have 2 drops with pains around day 11 & day 15 ( my cycles are 31-33 days) any advice you can give would be much appreciated, thank you so much

[atomic sagebrush]

EXACTLY and great point on that. Not only that, but anorexics who often have super low prog have more girls and younger women who tend to have good prog levels, have more boys. Plus we have women on this site and others who have super short LP and have both boys and girls. The prog = girls just doesn't add up.

The whole ball of wax involving testosterone, stress, and gender ratio is like a Gordian knot that we don't have enough data to untangle. I personally believe that there are different kinds of stress and the type of stress, coupled with your physical condition and personality/mindset in terms of how you view and respond to that stress, can affect your body in different ways. I am 1000% convinced that the people who get super carried away with swaying, stress over every detail and cannot let anything go or leave anything to chance, that those people tend to have more boys even when they do a "perfect" pink sway. I've seen it happen too many times and the ONLY logical explanation is testosterone.

Re cutoff, if you have a 31-33 day cycle you are almost certainly Oing on CD 15 or even 16 or 17. Your luteal phase only very rarely goes far beyond 14 days and if you were Oing on CD 11, that would be a super long LP and that just doesn't happen much if ever. Have you ever done OPK? They might be a way to get a better handle on when exactly you O and if you simply BD on a pos OPK, that can be a stress-free way to have a small cutoff while still having a good shot at pg.