BD timing help PLEASE

[Wishonastar]

Hi ladies, Well January is the month for us!!!Two weeks left!!!Been loosely following the diet... So hard when it's Xmas and new year!! But cutting down salt etc.. Upped my calcium, taking cranberry and folic acid, have DH on cranberry so all that's left is when?

With my first DS we DTD 7,4,3,2 before O and with DS2 we DTD 6,4,3,1 days before ovulation... So should we abstain for 7-10 days this time as that would be opposite to doing what I done for my boys? OR

Should I abstain with a cutoff of 2-3 days before O with a once off BD?

Or should we abstain 7-10 days, DH do FR on his own then closer to O do frequent BD till after O? DH is 30 as well as me.. We will incorporate the hot showers and I will take Zyrtec before BD...

Hopefully someone has conceived boys same as me and can help with how they girl swayed )

[rainbowflower]

that sounds like a very traditional sway!

I don't necessarily agree with "doing the opposite of when you had boys" approach because not everyone does ALL things that sway blue when they conceive blue. Naturally most of us have a mix of things that sway pink and some that sway blue, and then mother nature chooses for you.
saying that, frequent BD is different to frequent release , because the latter means less attempts and lower CM/pH/testosterone/total swimmers trying to get the egg for you. Either frequent release with a couple of attempts at pos OPK or abstain with one attempt at pos OPK would be good for you.

I wouldn't try a cut off - there's no evidence it sways (in fact, evidence suggests strongly that timing doesn't sway), and it can just make it more difficult for you to get pregnant at all

[Wishonastar]

Thanks so much for your response... Would you agree with 7-10 abstinence during AF....BD 3-4 days before O after abstinence, then get DH to do FR for about 3-4 days (as iam worried about too much testosterone raising my ph) then BD day before day of O and day after O?

[rainbowflower]

you're right that does sound complex!
if you plan on abstinence I do feel you only need to do one attempt to get the most of the lower sperm count from that (I believe that lowers them in a different way than FR, as with abstinence you'd have lower sperm count but those in that sample would be "older" sperm). I don't know what a second release following abstinence would contain - whether it would be new fresh sperm or more of the older ones. Atomic - have you seen any studies on this?

FR is likely easier to do. Personally we'll likely do CFR again, but if doing regular FR we'd release and BD on alternate days

[Wishonastar]

Thanks for all your advice... What is CFR... One term I haven't heard before

[black&gold]

compressed frequent release. My understanding is that dh releases (on his own, or with your help..whatever) once or twice and then as soon as possible after that you make an attempt.. basically he's released so much that the amount of sperm will be very minimal. I could be wrong as I'm still new to this but I know thats what CFR stands for

[rainbowflower]

compressed frequent release. My understanding is that dh releases (on his own, or with your help..whatever) once or twice and then as soon as possible after that you make an attempt.. basically he's released so much that the amount of sperm will be very minimal. I could be wrong as I'm still new to this but I know thats what CFR stands for

that's right, he pretty much empties his supplies with the first release, and then if you DTD within 8 hours he doesn't have anywhere near as much left to come out when he releases again. After the next 8-hourly release the quantity he releases levels off and is at the minimum end of the scale.. .i.e. very low sperm count and concentration.
of course if you DTD in less than 8 hours he will have even less still as it won't have had as much time to build back up

[Wishonastar]

Thanks ladies, wow another link to add to the chain this is going to be one interesting month CFR does sound "safer" would we do this every night till O confirmed? Or just around day before day of and day after O?

[rainbowflower]

it depends how long you'd be able to keep going for
most men wouldn't be able to do releases every 8hrs for too long!

around pos OPK or during the fertile window would be perfect timing for CFR

[Wishonastar]

Thanks, will DEFINATELY try this around O time... Fingers crossed!! Thanks for all your advice