I just wondered if swaying was mostly effected by PH or if I'm completely reading things wrong?
Leaving aside all the rephresh aci gels and testing ph of myself and dp cm, even the diet seems to be about changing your ph? I've read that in a lot of people's opinions the diet especially in women is really important, why is this? What result are we looking for from doing the diet?
Sorry for all the questions recently I'm just trying to get my head around the reasoning so I full understand!
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Thread: Is it mostly about PH?
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October 31st, 2011, 10:24 AM #1Big Dreamer
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Is it mostly about PH?
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October 31st, 2011, 11:34 AM #2
The pH of the tract the egg travels changes 4-5 times on the way to your uterus. It is hard to say if or how much impact pH has on the sway as a whole. Diet has been studied in animals and humans and the proportions of calcium/magnesium to sodium/potassium have the most evidence to support swaying. Whether or not pH is actually changed within you where sperm and egg meet is difficult to say just due to having any scientific evidence that pH has an effect on the sex of the baby.
I can tell you that with HT, eggs and embryos are cultured in a perfect pH of 7.0 and statistically, we end up with a 50/50 gender ratio come transfer day. IF there was a lot of data to support pH changes, I am sure the embryologists would be using it to help the GS patients but there are many studies on changing pH of embryos and the detrimental effects it has on them.
Diet is key- it certainly may alter the pH of secretions but your body will always maintain the pH it needs to survive and have the organs function properly.
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October 31st, 2011, 11:45 AM #3Big Dreamer
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Ah I see, Thank you for that!
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October 31st, 2011, 12:23 PM #4
I think that pH might "kill off" some sperm in the V before they can get through the cervix which will lower sperm count and sway pink because of that
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November 1st, 2011, 10:37 AM #5
In a nutshell - no.
Swaying really seems to be all about the fertility of the couple overall. Couples with lower or declining fertility (so a very fertile couple who has had a hard month - illness, poor diet, etc. can still conceive a girl) are more likely to conceive girls, couples with optimal or increasing fertility (so a couple who struggles to get pg can have a great month and then conceive a boy). pH can be an indicator of lower fertility but there are other things that also indicate lower fertility, such as lower sperm count and/or quality, dry, thick cervical mucus, low blood and CM glucose levels, lower levels of hormones like testosterone and estrogen (men actually want higher estrogen for TTC pink), longer or shorter cycles and spotty ovulation.
When we sway for a girl, what we're trying to do is firstly actually reduce our fertility as a couple (you can sway without your husband successfully, but of course it's best to have him helping if at all possible), looking for that sweet spot where our fertility is declining but we are still able to conceive. Secondly, we try and emulate things that are indicative of that lower fertility, either masking or increasing certain symptoms, and this is where the pH comes in. The traditional-style sway that you have prob. read about on other sites or in books, tends to focus more on the latter. I personally feel that it's more effective to actually lower your fertility a little through natural methods such as diet, than rely on "treating the symptoms" with timing and lime juice. That having been said, for some of us, we are just so fertile that it can take an act of God to reduce our fertility enough to sway pink and so we include things like antihistamines and jellies to help.
The diet does a lot to sway. It lowers overall fertility in ways we prob. don't even know about yet, plus, it lowers levels of testosterone and estrogen and the raw materials your body makes T and E from, dries up CM, and losing weight makes you more acidic even if you are not following any of the sway diets. I went from pH 6 to 4.5 in like 2 weeks and all I did was lose a few pounds still eating my normal diet (didn't help me conceive a girl tho.) Diet also makes your cycle more irregular which seems to sway pink according to at least one study, losing weight on a lower protein diet burns off muscle (which raises T) and fat (which raises E)and it sends the signal to your body that times are hard and a girl has a better chance at survival than a boy does. One study showed that moms who conceived boys ate more nutrients across the board than moms who conceived girls did. Vegetarians, people who were thin, and people with eating disorders where they lose a lot of weight have more girls according to three other studies (NOT suggesting anyone develop an eating disorder for a sway!!!!), and mice fed carb-based diets had way more daughters than rats fed high fat diets did in a different study.
pH, is really kinda down the list of all these super important things. There are some of us on here who conceived boys with low pH and girls with high pH. pH, I believe, is one of those "treat the symptoms" sway techniques that is fine to include, but not to count upon. HTH.Last edited by atomic sagebrush; November 1st, 2011 at 10:49 AM.
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November 1st, 2011, 10:48 AM #6
First of all NBP, thanks for posting this about pH, I didn't know that about the pH changing 4-5 times on the way to the uterus but that totally makes sense. Also the pH for HT is so true - how can some sperm "love" high pH and some sperm "love" low pH of medium pH is best for all sperm to survive in?? And FOR SURE for fertilized eggs - why would the human body want or like any pH that is not there by design for either gender???
I do want to mention that I ~personally~ do not believe that the cal-mag-sod-pot has the most or the best scientific evidence. I read studies all day long and 99% of them have nothing to do with mineral levels and don't even make sense if mineral levels are what is doing the swaying for every person and animal on the face of the planet, as the creators of the FGD (mineral diet) claim. I ~personally~ believe the best scientific evidence is for blood and CM glucose levels because researchers in labs have actually witnessed XX and XY fertilized eggs actually sucking up different levels of glucose.!!! Questions??Check out the NEW and improved Complete Index !!!
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