Sort of a Newbie, considering a more serious boy sway.

[Brey13]

Hello all, I am considering having my fourth child because I want my youngest (8 mos) to have a sib that's close in age. I have 3 girls 8 mos, 3 y, and 5 y. I really want a boy, but I know it's not guaranteed (obviously know that after 3!) and part of me is a little scared to have 4 under the age of 6-7! I'm currently nursing the baby and have not resumed periods. I just started temping and OPK's to see if I'm even ovulating bc I'm assuming I am not!

I did research swaying last attempt, however I conceived when I wasn't following them strictly and was going out of town and ended up O 2 days after BD. I also eat very girl friendly and have always watched my weight and lost all the baby weight after. This time I had a few questions. I am upping my cals, focusing on strength, doing the high sodium/potassium etc.

Here are my questions:

As far as dairy, I love dairy but we also do almond or lactose free milk for my husband a lot. I have cut out yogurts, creamers, cheese. I'm getting conflicting info on almond milk vs whole milk. If I do use milk in my cereal or coffee, should I use whole milk? What about lactaid lactose free milks? Are they acidic?

I drink a protein nutrient dense shake (shakeology) often and did before my last girls. Would this sway one way or the other? Should I stop?


I have stopped taking EPO. I have read some on Soy Isoflavens and am not sure if it's something I should try when I know that I have a cycle. How much?

Thanks in advance!

[MiaMelb]

Hi and welcome,

I can completely understand the hesitation with ttc and swaying. Seems the best we can get the sway results is about 70% success, so definitely not a guarantee. I'll chime in what I can...

Most blue swayers are using full fat dairy. DHs diet seems less critical so if he's not into full fat it's not a deal breaker. DW should do full fat if possible as Atomic has noticed that blue swayers who are doing almond milk have lower success results.

Yes definitely drop EPO, it's also also been associated with opposites for blue swayers. Don't seem to hear of many blue swayers doing soy iso, may even.be recommended for pink swayers from memory?

I'm sure Atomic will chime in to.double check what I've said and clarify about the shakes, some are better than others.

GL

[Brey13]

Thanks for your reply! I will and can drink whole fat milk, I just wasn't sure if that was what I should do or still try to limit the milk. I can drink black coffee if I have to! I've already swapped my afternoon coffee for green tea and just have the one cup in the morning. I'm also making sure to eat breakfast when I wake up. Trying to get in the habit now. I'm hoping my cycle starts back soon, but with my others it was 12-14 months when periods started back.

[LMSM]

Hi Bret!
I’m literally in the exact same situation as you (3 girls, same ages, still waiting for AF to return as nursing my 8 m.o, scared about ttc#4 lol).
My tablet is out of battery so will return ASAP to elaborate

[Blue2]

LMSM - congrats on your 3 princesses! I have one princess, 10mo

You probably already posted elsewhere, but mind if I ask why you think your last sway attempt went opposite? I'm a December TTC/blue sway in 2WW territory. Before ttc I was a Shettles devotee but found this website in the middle of peak O timeframe and am trying to gauge how much I may have jeopardized blue sway with timing vs. diet approach...

[Brey13]

Hi ladies! Glad I'm not alone haha. Blue2, the one month we took off trying after 3 months I knew I was going out of town so we DTD 1-2 days prior to O and so my diet wasn't on point (I didn't know as much as I do now either). I drank coffee, dairy, and alcohol still and was watching not to eat too much so I wasn't getting a lot of calories or salt. I don't know why we didn't use protection that night, because it was taking longer for me to get pregnant and I guess I figured it may not happen anyways (I got pregnant first try with my first 2).

This time I really want to be on point. I've stopped my red wine a couple times a week, cut back coffee and dairy. I am just a little confused on certain things. Like we just had salmon and waldorf salad tonight. I hope mayo is ok and I know salmon is more girl but the omega's can't hurt I suppose.

My husband works in a specialty meat company. They make many things and I have bison and grass fed beef readily available. But, I'm wondering if the snack meat sticks are ok to eat too. Jerky and sticks, all natural ingredients but does contain some nitrates from celery seed etc.

[Blue2]

Hi ladies! Glad I'm not alone haha. Blue2, the one month we took off trying after 3 months I knew I was going out of town so we DTD 1-2 days prior to O and so my diet wasn't on point (I didn't know as much as I do now either). I drank coffee, dairy, and alcohol still and was watching not to eat too much so I wasn't getting a lot of calories or salt. I don't know why we didn't use protection that night, because it was taking longer for me to get pregnant and I guess I figured it may not happen anyways (I got pregnant first try with my first 2).

This time I really want to be on point. I've stopped my red wine a couple times a week, cut back coffee and dairy. I am just a little confused on certain things. Like we just had salmon and waldorf salad tonight. I hope mayo is ok and I know salmon is more girl but the omega's can't hurt I suppose.

My husband works in a specialty meat company. They make many things and I have bison and grass fed beef readily available. But, I'm wondering if the snack meat sticks are ok to eat too. Jerky and sticks, all natural ingredients but does contain some nitrates from celery seed etc.

Wait, I thought HE included alcohol, meat, & dairy for blue sway?

I am very new to atomic's methods of swaying (diet/lifestyle) and am more familiar with Shettles because I stupidly thought that was the authority on swaying until I found this site! But I thought for blue sway you do want a lot of calories?

For my DD I was similar to your DD3 - drinking wine & coffee, not eating a lot (was married 5 days before so bridal dieting), and additional DH & I were having the occasional ciggie while honeymooning. Between the daily BD'ing and not a lot of calories and wine/coffee/cigs and low stress, in hindsight I am not AT ALL surprised by DD as I basically did by-the-atomic-book pink sway lol

[MiaMelb]

Wait, I thought HE included alcohol, meat, & dairy for blue sway?

I am very new to atomic's methods of swaying (diet/lifestyle) and am more familiar with Shettles because I stupidly thought that was the authority on swaying until I found this site! But I thought for blue sway you do want a lot of calories?

For my DD I was similar to your DD3 - drinking wine & coffee, not eating a lot (was married 5 days before so bridal dieting), and additional DH & I were having the occasional ciggie while honeymooning. Between the daily BD'ing and not a lot of calories and wine/coffee/cigs and low stress, in hindsight I am not AT ALL surprised by DD as I basically did by-the-atomic-book pink sway lol

HE diet is a higher cal diet but most importantly a nutrient dense diet. No foods or drinks are off limits but some choices are better than others. Dairy is good for a blue sway and should be full fat if you can do that. Meat is good for blue too in particular increasing your red meat intake. From memory reducing some of the highly processed meats is recommended though.

Atomic suggests cutting your alcohol and coffee
consumption back while swaying blue. I'm not a huge drinker but if I ever get around to my blue sway reducing my coffees will be killer (I'm a 2-4 coffee per day kinda girl).

[Brey13]

I am new to the specifics as well! Yes red meat is good I just meant more the more processed sticks and such they make which I know are msg free and on the healthier side since hubby makes them for a living. I know it’s high sodium which is good. I’m just having a hard time knowing what to snack on besides veggies and fruit because I used to eat a yogurt cup before bed and I’m trying to do low dairy (only whole milk in my coffe for example ). I’m not big on chips, maybe tortilla. I love avocado tomato salad with lemon juice. I just am still wanting to lose about 8-10 lbs but with mostly strength training and eating lots of healthier options . With my girls I was always portioning and cutting cals so I’m trying not to be so drastic.

I’m also still nursing so who knows how long until we actually start trying!

[MiaMelb]

I am new to the specifics as well! Yes red meat is good I just meant more the more processed sticks and such they make which I know are msg free and on the healthier side since hubby makes them for a living. I know it’s high sodium which is good. I’m just having a hard time knowing what to snack on besides veggies and fruit because I used to eat a yogurt cup before bed and I’m trying to do low dairy (only whole milk in my coffe for example ). I’m not big on chips, maybe tortilla. I love avocado tomato salad with lemon juice. I just am still wanting to lose about 8-10 lbs but with mostly strength training and eating lots of healthier options . With my girls I was always portioning and cutting cals so I’m trying not to be so drastic.

I’m also still nursing so who knows how long until we actually start trying!

The HE diet does not recommend cutting back on dairy, so no reason to give up your yoghurt. Most people here don't follow the mineral parts of older school swaying diets so I wouldn't be thinking that things with high sodium are necessarily good for blue. The thought here is that all minerals sway blue so hence a high nutrient diet is recommended.