Pink sway BD fact or fiction

[Being MommaBear]

Hello ladies!

I appreciate all the wonderful feedback and information with these forums. I've read a lot of 'techniques' on swaying girl during BD, but I'm not sure which of them actually help with a sway or not, or if any actually cut the odds of conceiving. Looking for some clarification if possible!:

-Abstain and one attempt a day or 2 before ovulation is good for a pink sway?
-Jump and dump: Does it sway, or does it really only cut chances of conceiving?
-Hot showers (me, spouse, both?) before BD?
-Using KY jelly? (we use the Target equivalent of ky)
-Shallow penetration (missionary) or deep penetration (doggie style)?
-Woman should not orgasm for a pink sway?

For reference, in conceiving our son (we weren't trying to sway, just to conceive): attempt on a Mon then again on Fri when I realized my timing was off (ovulation on Sat), I had an orgasm prior to hubby releasing, no J&D but stayed lying down, deep penetration dog style position, used minimal Target brand KY jelly.

I think my main boy-sway tactic without realizing it was taking multivitamins and drinking meal replacement shakes (full of protein and extra supplements).

Thanks!

[atomic sagebrush]

The important thing is the one attempt. The abstain and the 2 day cutoff have not proven to be helpful in our results and/or in studies but for reasons we can only guess at, the one attempt has. Now, you can certainly add on abstain and timing if you want to, just be sure you drop them before adding attempts because that one attempt really works, and the abstain and timing cut odds of conception yet don't add anything in terms of results.

Jump and dump did seem to add a little something in our results. We aren't sure if this is a legit finding or just a statistical quirk, but most of us do start off doing J and D either immediately, or after 5 minutes, and then gradually extend that over time.

Both you and DH can take hot showers if you want. I doubt this does a whole lot, but it's something people sometimes like to include.

KY jelly has seemed to sway a little and if you like it anyway, fine to start off with. YOu may want to use less and eventually drop it if you don't get pregnant.

Shallow penetration, I prefer you guys not use. I don't think it helps sways any (I've seen plenty of people get boys with it) and it really, really, REALLY cuts odds of conception. Now, straight up missionary is fine to use, just don't do the thing where DH releases just at the outskirts of the vagina (LOL if I had a nickel for every time I wrote that, I'd have a nickel). The reason is that I've seen several people who inexplicably weren't getting pregnant even as we tried every trick in the book, only to find that they were doing shallow release the entire time. Then once we dropped that, they got pregnant immediately.

The conventional wisdom is no female orgasm for pink. After having done gobs of polls on this, I really doubt this is a biggie and I have an essay on it here (please be aware this essay is a little "out there" given the subject matter and may offend anyone who's sensitive to such stuff) https://www.genderdreaming.com/forum...s-swaying.html

Yep I'd deffo stay away from the multivitamins and the meal replacer shakes.

Let me know how else I can help!

[Being MommaBear]

Hi Atomic,

You are amazing for taking the time to reply with so much detail to so many threads! Thank you for all your dedication to this site and giving us information.

-I'm sorry to have to ask as I'm sure you've explained this multiple times in different threads, but could you please clarify your method for the 1 attempt? I feel like it should be self explanatory - "1 attempt" so you BD 1 time - but the other phrasings of abstain and cutoff still confuse me. From reading other threads, I thought I finally had an understanding of the 1 attempt, but I must be overthinking it and confusing myself. I had thought the main options for the 1 attempt were either: 1) abstain, then have the 1 attempt somewhere either 2 days before, 1 day before, or on ovulation day, or 2) frequent release by hubby every day for 7-10 days 'outside' (for lack of better terms) before the 1 attempt, then releasing at the 1 attempt near or at ovulation. Is there another method? I tried reading your answers in a recent thread post by another mom on pink swaying, and there was a mention of "regular release" with hubby releasing every 2-4 days on his own before BD for the 1 attempt. Am I relaying that accurately? I had thought the hubby releasing every few days would replenish sperm supply and sway blue.

-Thank you for the clarification on "shallow penetration", lol! On a lot of sites, people say shallow penetration but mean missionary position. I thought the terms were interchangeable, but glad to know missionary is given the thumbs up!

Thanks again! I hope this wasn't too rambling. Trying to type and keep track of my 2-year-old at the same time.

[atomic sagebrush]

It's confusing only because there are many different elements to swaying and you don't have to use all of them.

One attempt just means one attempt in the fertile window (which runs from O-3 through O Day for most people - some consider this to include even O-4 and 5 but we have seen so few conceptions from those days I don't really include them in the fertile window any more)

Now, if you wanted to add timing onto that, you can (and would have attempt O-2 or O-3, aka a "cutoff". Attempts O-4/5 are too slim chances of conception to be worth your time.) But this would only work out if your cycle stayed regular! Most of us now have that one attempt at positive OPK because timing doesn't sway anyway (most of us have the opposites to prove it!) and it's an easy goal to aim at...instead of trying to guess "well am I 2 days before ovulation...or 3? or is it O Day?" you know that you're surging and will likely ovulate in about 36 hours. Both good chance of conception and ease of use, but only for people who don't believe in and don't want timing!

And you could also add on abstain or frequent (daily) release onto the one attempt, with or without timing. Totally up to you! You can do any or all of these things. Abstain and daily release have not worked well for us (same number of people getting girls with and without them) plus husbands HATE THEM and they've really lowered odds of conception. So you're basically driving your husband nuts and lowering your chances of conception for something that hasn't even worked. Many of us have instead chosen to do the regular release 2-4 days (which on paper was once said to sway blue, but no frequency pattern has appeared to be a heavy hitter, either for pink or for blue) and then the one attempt. This is a way to boost odds of conception with one attempt (which really does seem to sway)

In the end it's your sway, your way, and if you believe in some of these things that's fine. you can combine timing, frequency pattern, and one attempt to start with if you want. But the important thing is that you drop the things that don't work FIRST (timing and frequency) and keep one attempt. Do NOT go on and on many months doing all these things only to give up all at once and start doing everything to boost odds of conception and do NOT keep abstain and timing and start adding attempts. Those ways are how people end up getting opposites.

And hey - thanks for illuminating me about the missionary/shallow confusion. I have been long puzzled by people who claim to do all these things and get pregnant easily when we can't seem to manage that around here. At least part of it may be totally different definitions - if someone says they're doing "shallow release" when they're really doing missionary, that makes a huge difference for odds of conception,t hat's for sure! Thanks.