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    Yes, that's e4d because people count CD 16 (attempt) as Day 1, CD 17 (skip) as Day 2, CD 18 (skip) as Day 3, and then CD 19 (attempt) as Day 4. I know it seems confusing but it's actually the easiest way we have come up with to count the days.

    That s e4d in the 72 hour pattern, and it's good chance of conception and possibly lower chance of pink (although we've gotten very good results with it - 14 of 18 people got girls, which is still a small sample size but it's been working for us so far.

    Or you can stretch it a day and do the e4d in the every 96 hour pattern. This is worse odds of conception but possibly higher rates of pink (but like I said we are getting such good result with e4d anyway it's probably not much higher rates of pink than the 72 hour pattern is.

    I often have people do just what you're suggesting - have the one attempt at first positive then go to e4d in the 72 hour pattern to guard against delayed ovulation. That's fne for this month but next month on the Clomid I do hope you go to e4d all month.
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    Quote Originally Posted by atomic sagebrush View Post
    Yes, that's e4d because people count CD 16 (attempt) as Day 1, CD 17 (skip) as Day 2, CD 18 (skip) as Day 3, and then CD 19 (attempt) as Day 4. I know it seems confusing but it's actually the easiest way we have come up with to count the days.

    That s e4d in the 72 hour pattern, and it's good chance of conception and possibly lower chance of pink (although we've gotten very good results with it - 14 of 18 people got girls, which is still a small sample size but it's been working for us so far.

    Or you can stretch it a day and do the e4d in the every 96 hour pattern. This is worse odds of conception but possibly higher rates of pink (but like I said we are getting such good result with e4d anyway it's probably not much higher rates of pink than the 72 hour pattern is.

    I often have people do just what you're suggesting - have the one attempt at first positive then go to e4d in the 72 hour pattern to guard against delayed ovulation. That's fne for this month but next month on the Clomid I do hope you go to e4d all month.


    Ok yeah I was wondering if its e4d from end of af till af again. Is that how it's ment to be done? What if I do cd13 cd16 and cd19 that would pretty much cover the whole cycle.

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    If you're fairly good at knowing if you've ovulated or not then it's ok to taper off after ovulation for most people. But some people think they ovulated and then didn't. It's best to err on the side of having more attempts and covering more bases.

    I would really urge you to start earlier than CD 13 though. A whole lot of people who generally O later have missed the month by waiting too long to start. You want that first attempt to be before you could ovulate. You can ovulate CD 12-13, this happens all the time, even if it doesn't usually happen for you!

    So I would suggest CD 10, 13, 16, 19, 22 and even 25 possibly. You'll have much better coverage that way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by atomic sagebrush View Post
    If you're fairly good at knowing if you've ovulated or not then it's ok to taper off after ovulation for most people. But some people think they ovulated and then didn't. It's best to err on the side of having more attempts and covering more bases.

    I would really urge you to start earlier than CD 13 though. A whole lot of people who generally O later have missed the month by waiting too long to start. You want that first attempt to be before you could ovulate. You can ovulate CD 12-13, this happens all the time, even if it doesn't usually happen for you!

    So I would suggest CD 10, 13, 16, 19, 22 and even 25 possibly. You'll have much better coverage that way.


    Cool thanks I'll definitely do that next cycle because that's my last clomid cycle but this cycle I'm going to do our attempt at first solid smiley without any jels and a release a few days before. I think our chances should be much higher this month.


    I wonder if its just me that gave us our 2 boys because my dh smokes pot and tobacco and drinks regularly he doesn't really eat healthy either he's got a pot belly and doesn't have a huge sex drive. I'm wondering if he mite actually be more girl friendly in nature but I was always so set for boys. I've always been so healthy. I don't smoke anything hardly ever drink and I normally eat really well I'm health conscious. So really hoping we are both set for girls now. 🤞

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    Quote Originally Posted by atomic sagebrush View Post
    If you're fairly good at knowing if you've ovulated or not then it's ok to taper off after ovulation for most people. But some people think they ovulated and then didn't. It's best to err on the side of having more attempts and covering more bases.

    I would really urge you to start earlier than CD 13 though. A whole lot of people who generally O later have missed the month by waiting too long to start. You want that first attempt to be before you could ovulate. You can ovulate CD 12-13, this happens all the time, even if it doesn't usually happen for you!

    So I would suggest CD 10, 13, 16, 19, 22 and even 25 possibly. You'll have much better coverage that way.


    On another note my af pretty much stopped after my second clomid pill last cycle and now this cycle my af was reduced before I even took the first clomid pill. Now yesterday was day 2 of the pill and again my af has all but stopped. Just wondering if that's normal and doesn't mean I can't get pregnant because clomid is reducing my lining to much?

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    Many of us see shorter lighter periods while swaying (even without the Clomid.) This link is more about the time of day the period arrives but there's info about the flow as well https://genderdreaming.com/forum/gen...-you-have.html

    While Clomid can affect lining negatively it usually takes many months (like 5-6) What you're describing sounds to me like a normal change we'd expect to see when swaying. BE sure you're eating enough fat and calories.
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    Quote Originally Posted by atomic sagebrush View Post
    Many of us see shorter lighter periods while swaying (even without the Clomid.) This link is more about the time of day the period arrives but there's info about the flow as well https://genderdreaming.com/forum/gen...-you-have.html

    While Clomid can affect lining negatively it usually takes many months (like 5-6) What you're describing sounds to me like a normal change we'd expect to see when swaying. BE sure you're eating enough fat and calories.


    OK that's good to know it's normal. Thank you so much for all your help. I'll hopefully update you with a bfp 🤞

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    I would not use Acijel after this month since you're on Clomid though as it may lower odds of conception too much.
    ok completely ignore my last message we did an attempt cd8 and last night cd12 it's now cd13 am and i got my solid smiley way early. So should we bd in 72hrs aswel or leave it at that? Also I had a big O about 30mins after our attempt is that ok? It doesn't sway blue?

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    Augh, so sorry I only just now saw this.

    If you're doing e4d just stick with the e4d even past when you think you've ovulated. Sometimes our first OPK is false positive and we will ovulate later on, so by continuing to have attempts past that point, we guard against delayed ovulation.

    RE big O, the conventional wisdom is that they sway blue, but we have done lots of polls and surveys on it and gotten about 50-50 results. (I had one when I got my DD and not with some of my boys!) While I do think overall we see a trend where the boy parents are more sexual than the girl parents tend to be, I don't think it's because of the Big O swaying in and of itself. I think it's more that the hormones that make couples more revved up also sway blue, if that makes any sense.
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    Augh, so sorry I only just now saw this.

    If you're doing e4d just stick with the e4d even past when you think you've ovulated. Sometimes our first OPK is false positive and we will ovulate later on, so by continuing to have attempts past that point, we guard against delayed ovulation.

    RE big O, the conventional wisdom is that they sway blue, but we have done lots of polls and surveys on it and gotten about 50-50 results. (I had one when I got my DD and not with some of my boys!) While I do think overall we see a trend where the boy parents are more sexual than the girl parents tend to be, I don't think it's because of the Big O swaying in and of itself. I think it's more that the hormones that make couples more revved up also sway blue, if that makes any sense.




    Help!!!
    So here's my chart we dtd cd8 and cd12 got solid smiley cd13 am cd13 an cd14 I had cramps now it's cd15 and I just got ewcm with a streak of blood in it and my temp didn't go above the rest this am so I'm assuming ovulation is today what do you think and should we definitely attempt again tonight? That will be the e4d 72hr I really don't want to miss this cycle. Or do you think I have a good shot from attempt cd12 if ovulation is today cd15? Please read an reply fast it's 10am cd15 need to know your advice before tonight. Thank you so much here's my chart.
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