UK SMOG Wannabes - November (moved from PL)

[deaks66]

Kell glad you had a good parents eve for ds! Shame his dad can't focus on the positives. My dad used to be like that and I hated it. I had ds's nursery one yesterday and they were so encouraging but did mention that he is the busiest boy they have ever had there...eek!

[Inglewood]

Deaks, ur episiotomy story was my biggest fear before c-sections were outta my hands, feel for you!! A wound on ur tummy is sore, but down there...ouch!! Fx ur pelvis is straighter for baby no 3???? x

[deaks66]

Thanks Hun, it was truly awful. Because they had to do the episiotomy to get ds out and also further tearing from removing the placenta manually, both of which they totally cocked up leaving me with full on convulsions, my vg was so swollen it was hanging down about 4 inches... Had to send my dad out to buy me a rubber ring which I sat on for about a month! Not pleasant! I changed hospitals for ds2 because of that and the after care being so shocking. But they have now closed that hospital so I have to go back to that hell hole for dc3. Can't wait!

[Inglewood]

Thanks Hun, it was truly awful. Because they had to do the episiotomy to get ds out and also further tearing from removing the placenta manually, both of which they totally cocked up leaving me with full on convulsions, my vg was so swollen it was hanging down about 4 inches... Had to send my dad out to buy me a rubber ring which I sat on for about a month! Not pleasant! I changed hospitals for ds2 because of that and the after care being so shocking. But they have now closed that hospital so I have to go back to that hell hole for dc3. Can't wait!

Hopefully it's a whole new medical team and prob lots of diff midwives at the awful hosp?? My friend had her baby in aug and is still sore from a similar experience. They had to turn her baby inside her and pull her out...just awful. She was screaming for a section but they said no and she's been left very 'troubled' down there. The joys of childbirth! Wish I was like my mum few puffs ands pants and out my brother and I came, no meds!! Saying that we were 7lb-er's, my boys were 9lb 1 and 8lbs 5 9early) and I am 5ft!! Didn't know I had a twisted cervix either, but dh says it matches my personality! twat! Shame ur Dh gets home so late!! must be tough, I feel bad leaving dh 2 nights a wk at 7pm, all night till home at 8.30am. With twins too, going back to work at 6mths will be tough for him! Think I am lucky tho, him being a twin and coming from a family of 4, he's taking it in his stride (so far).....

We had fun tonight trying to suss out the phil and teds sport buggy a mum gave me!! lol Dh going daft trying to google how to open it!!! hee hee, shame it's no good from birth tho! Not sure what to do, buy a double pram for what 6mths or so?? or use the M&P twin buggy (kindly also given to us) that almost lies flat with cosy toes?? It's just to walk literally 2mins or less to school and back with the boys!

Petal, love ur ticker, love wee bunnies! Good boy sleeping for u, knew his mummy would love a good sleep! Glad u got ur own way in the end at the birth too. I'm so desp to find out the sex, Fx on tues it's the consultant as she promised me a good look about if it was her, the sonographer said she wouldn't say till 20wks Sure it's 2 baby boys in there, just my instinct and I'm ok with that, the shock of 2 babies in there has over-ruled the shock it will prob be a boy! Hope ur resting lots and jealous of all ur cuddles with ur boy!!!

[pinga]

My birthplan for DS1 was a verbal 'I do NOT want pethadine'. In the end I just had gas and air and an episiotomy. was only a 6hr birth

With DS2 I wanted to go completely drug free and didn't want to be on the bed. My gorgeous MW got me the mobile belly monitors! The best thing ever!!! Means I didn't have to lie down and baby was still monitored!!! I was a bit gutted that I had to be induced. But I had him drug free in 55 minutes. I tore pretty badly with DS2. It hurts tear or cut!! The stitching up took longer than the birth! I was on cloud 9 after that birth! Bumped into a pregnant tour group of the birth centre and I was walking my baby up to the ward, grinning like an insane woman. They all looked a bit terrified.

I am actually a bit nervous about this one. If DS2 was 55 minutes... ummm how quick will #3 come????? Might end up with a home birth??

I am really into natural birth BUT saying that I'm lucky to have had quick births - the hippy in me is happy! I'm not judging anyone that does it differently - you do what is best for you!! I think people have different pain thresholds too - mine is pretty good. After DS2 my MW asked me if I was doing hypno-birthing... I wasn't I was just doing breathing techniques...

Has anyone recorded their births? A part of me is really interested to see what I'm actually like during labour! And it would be kinda cool to see baby come out! I might think about it for this birth... not exactly a video you get out at family Christmases! Early on in my relationship with DH my now MIL showed me DHs baby album - there is a lovely picture of him coming out. Did not want to see that side of my MIL!!!!

Wow I'm rambling!

Inglewood - when is your scan - I can't remember what date you said?

[DoulaMama]

Dola mama I had pre eclampsia with induction and bp of 190/140 with ds1 so choice or complaints his birth. With ds2 I had high bP so had to be monitored which is fare enough but I could sit on the birthing ball so why I had to labour on my back god knows

So definitely medically needed for DS1. With DS2, you're right....you didn't need to labour on your back, most likely. It's just "hospital protocol" and they just expect that all women want to birth like that... To touch base on the episiotomy stories... I've attended births where even women with epidurals are moved upright and supported by the staff so they could push effectively which leads to WAY less epi's. I think that most Dr's here in my city have learned that tearing is WAY better than cutting(thank God!). It all comes down to who is willing to help women so they can have a smoother birth no matter what is going on in the birthing suite. Research based care providers are hardly seen any more Episiotomy's also take 5x longer to heal than a natural tear and usually creates much more scar tissue as well. They are not fun....I'm sorry for everyone that has gone through that...not nice at all.

My birthplan for DS1 was a verbal 'I do NOT want pethadine'. In the end I just had gas and air and an episiotomy. was only a 6hr birth

With DS2 I wanted to go completely drug free and didn't want to be on the bed. My gorgeous MW got me the mobile belly monitors! The best thing ever!!! Means I didn't have to lie down and baby was still monitored!!! I was a bit gutted that I had to be induced. But I had him drug free in 55 minutes. I tore pretty badly with DS2. It hurts tear or cut!! The stitching up took longer than the birth! I was on cloud 9 after that birth! Bumped into a pregnant tour group of the birth centre and I was walking my baby up to the ward, grinning like an insane woman. They all looked a bit terrified.

I am actually a bit nervous about this one. If DS2 was 55 minutes... ummm how quick will #3 come????? Might end up with a home birth??

I am really into natural birth BUT saying that I'm lucky to have had quick births - the hippy in me is happy! I'm not judging anyone that does it differently - you do what is best for you!! I think people have different pain thresholds too - mine is pretty good. After DS2 my MW asked me if I was doing hypno-birthing... I wasn't I was just doing breathing techniques...

Has anyone recorded their births? A part of me is really interested to see what I'm actually like during labour! And it would be kinda cool to see baby come out! I might think about it for this birth... not exactly a video you get out at family Christmases! Early on in my relationship with DH my now MIL showed me DHs baby album - there is a lovely picture of him coming out. Did not want to see that side of my MIL!!!!

Wow I'm rambling!

Inglewood - when is your scan - I can't remember what date you said?

I've recorded 2 so far First was a MW attended home waterbirth and the second was an unassisted home waterbirth. I LOVE watching my birth videos. They make me cry every time I see them. I will be recording this birth as well as having a photographer here to capture the moments. It'll be my second unassisted and I'm seriously excited about it!! I love having my babies at home. I'm blessed with quick(not so easy, though) births as well and I'm very thankful for that. My 2nd came after about 2 hrs of hard labour and my third came after 1hr of hard labour. After the horrible experiences I had at the hospital with my first birth, you won't catch me birthing in one ever again, unless absolutely medically necessary. There's just something about being the first one to touch and catch my baby, having a peaceful environment, and being able to climb into my own bed to nurse my new baby...it's BLISS (I know exactly what you mean Charlie!) xoxo

[deaks66]

Inglewood, I totally agree, wish I was like my mum at childbirth too! My babies are so little that its rediculous how hard they are to get out! Ds1s head just would not turn in my twisted cervix, they tried all sorts! Anyway they do come out eventually so will try and stick with a natural birth next time even if this law about choosing whether you want to have a section or go natural comes into place.

I cantw wait for you to find out the sex.... So so exciting! And I'm glad your dh taking it in his stride... Mine wouldn't!! And in terms of the buggy I reckon the m+p one you have will be fine til they are old enough to both sit on the Phil and teds! Mind you, you won't enjoy the switch as the Phil and teds will seem so heavy in comparison. Dh didn't get in til gone midnight...not sure how long either of us can deal with his work hours for!

Pinga, your births sound amazing...very jealous!

My new thermometer is playing up which explains why my temps are all over the place. They are shooting up and down and today's looks like a pre ov temp! 36.43 and 10 mins later after still not moving 36.14! Yesterday it was 36.9!!! Think I will have to buy a new one....again!

Morning everyone!

[Sunset]

lol i'm feeling a bit scarred from coming on here this morning and reading all your birth stories lmao! sounds pretty horrendous and to think i'm gonna go through that in just a few weeks is erm... scary! i'm lucky in the way that i've never torn or needed an episiotomy so my recovery has always been pretty instant.. only thing is after i had ds1 and i needed manual removal of the placenta, the midwife then tore the inside of my vaginal wall as well as the outside, but forgot to put this down in my notes so it was only a week after coming home from the hospital that i was sort of wondering why i was feeling uncomfortable down there and i had a look and got the shock of the year. it wasnt pretty, but i think in the end it's good in a way that i didnt know about the stitches before hand because i believe it would have hurt more if i would have known.. psychological and all that, because i honestly didn't think it hurt. I didn't have any pain whatsoever going to the toilet or any of that you hear about, it was just when i walked long distances that it would feel rather uncomfortable.

Anyways, i'm quite open minded when it comes to labour and i'm 99.9% sure i won't have time for an epidural, because i never do! so i'm preparing for another drug free labour and as long as i'm not confined to a bed it shouldn't be a problem.

Petal ~ what a good boy you have.. i can't believe he slept so long for you already

Inglewood ~ i can't wait for tuesday! i'm so excited for you! your pregnancy seems to be flying by!

Maybebaby ~ fx you don't have to be strapped to a monitor this time!

Doulamama ~ you don't fancy coming to the UK and be my doula i've been thinking of perhaps recording the birth, but i don't know... i'm quite squeamish so i'm not so sure i could watch it again lol

charliespy ~ oh no are you still spotting? when is your next scan? what is this syrup thing you've been drinking?

hello to all you other lovely ladies!!

[Inglewood]

Sunset, I'm soooo hoping it's the consultant on tues as although the sonographer was nice, she said she doesn't tell women the gender till 20wks...so Fx it's the consultant!

Ds2 had eye clinic appt this morning, he did so well. Sat like an angel, I was so proud! Not due back till May, but with the twins she laughed and said, lets make that june!!! lol

My dilema today is waiting for a drain company....lucky us have a blocked sewage pipe under the decking!! arrrghhh
3 yrs ago ds1 was throwing babywipes down the loo and it blocked, but ds2 assures me he hasn't, but need to wait and see when they come...it's awful!!!

[Sunset]

Sunset, I'm soooo hoping it's the consultant on tues as although the sonographer was nice, she said she doesn't tell women the gender till 20wks...so Fx it's the consultant!

Ds2 had eye clinic appt this morning, he did so well. Sat like an angel, I was so proud! Not due back till May, but with the twins she laughed and said, lets make that june!!! lol

My dilema today is waiting for a drain company....lucky us have a blocked sewage pipe under the decking!! arrrghhh
3 yrs ago ds1 was throwing babywipes down the loo and it blocked, but ds2 assures me he hasn't, but need to wait and see when they come...it's awful!!!

i hope it's the consultant too i thought you said you had to be scanned by the consultant every 2 weeks or was it just that you need to be scanned every 2 weeks, but not necessarily by the consultant herself? glad to hear your ds2's eye appointment went well! my ds1 isn't due back for his next eye appointment until april