Sway coming up! Nervous [emoji51]

[atomic sagebrush]

Ok! I'll check. Emails are inferior to the site because things get buried quickly and then I always assume they're on here, but it can be the best way to send me photos so I'll go check those out again and get back to you.

Do you see all the added ingredients in the "My Kind"? Now, I doubt that any of those things are in enough concentration to sway, but as a general rule I have you guys skip things that have lots of added ingredients. It does have ginger which I don't recommend for swaying or during pregnancy even as it may thin the blood too much (again, likely in very small amounts, but still).

And I am always very wary of algae as it has been linked to motor neuron diseases like ALS (Lou Gehrig's Disease). My father in law always took a lot of supplements and he got ALS, which is how I know of this connection as we did tons of research trying to understand why this rare diseases had stricken our family. Now, this may very well be totally coincidental, and he was also in the military which is another associated factor with ALS. But it is a legit thing that scientists are studying and I can't in good conscience recommend more than occasional dietary use of algae products just because it's a positively brutal disease that I do not want anyone to ever get. https://www.sciencedaily.com/release...0917115449.htm

Now, it's a much better product than the other as it doesn't have that insane dose of magnesium or the dietary enzymes added, but I'd slowly over time reduce the amount you're taking (please do not just stop it cold turkey!). I wouldn't take the full dose, maybe just one or two a day, and possibly if you want to, wean off it totally. I did take calcium and magnesium and Vitamin D with my 3rd and 4th boy so I am fine with you taking them, I don't believe in any way that they sway pink (gave it all up to finally get my girl) but it's just that I don't want you taking anything that could potentially harm your health.

[Thefinalcountdown]

Thank for that! I’ll wean off for sure. I’m taking the Ovega-3 brand omega supplement made from algae so I’ll get off that too. What do you think of krill oil for omega 3 caps?

I was also eating black cumin seeds. Cut ‘em out?

The powders I couldn’t upload onto here but I’m going to stop them all. Should I wean down or just stop?

Matcha is the only other powder I take. What do you think about collard greens powder? It doesn’t have anything else in it.

What about almond milk for hubs? He drinks an enormous glass nightly like 4 cups worth! I’m getting him the silk organic unsweetened almond but should he just go to dairy? It’s quite a few more cals but I could try to get him to drink less?


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[atomic sagebrush]

So what to remember about "unintentional pink sways" is this - even with full on, very intensive sways we get between 66-75% success rates (our success rates go up and down and up and down and up again over time but that's a good average to go off of - somewhere between 2/3 and 3/4 of our sways depending on just who is swaying at that point in time work out for both pink and blue) so that is a lot of opposites even with intentional sways! If swaying could actually alter the gender ratio 100% of the time the entire human race would have died out long ago, because as soon as there was a famine, there would only be girls born. It's just not a light switch or a magic bullet.

Plus, the month you happen to conceive is just that - a MONTH. People have entire lifestyles, years upon years where they've had particular lifestyle(s) that may have some overall effect on their bodies - nutrient stores, muscle mass, insulin sensitivity, body fat percentage, whether or not they've been on birth control, the number of pregnancies they had and when they had them, let alone anything their husband brings to the table. It is entirely possible for people to have had an entirely pink (or blue) friendly lifestyle even as much as 95% of their lives and then just to have conceived at a point in time where they were more blue (or pink) friendly. This happens quite a lot - and most of us are nowhere near living a super blue or super pink friendly lifestyle 95% of the time! I can think back on several years where I was super thin, exercising a lot, and it just so happened I never got pregnant at those times. MOst, if not nearly all of us, would eventually get an opposite, it's just that we don't want to "Duggar it out" and have unlimited numbers of kids.

And finally, swaying is like an iceberg. The stuff we see above the waters is minuscule compared to the stuff that is happening below the surface. We only know of a FEW things that are altering gender ratio compared to the things that are likely coming into play that we have no idea about. So we are looking at general trends and trying to do what has worked for most people most of the time, but it's very likely that there are other things we have no idea about that are probably having an effect. It's not only luck, but possibly other things that are going on that are affecting people's outcomes and so we just can't

I try not to track anything that requires me to make a value judgement on whether people have a pink or blue lifestyle going into it. First of all it would take me an eternity to figure out who has a "pink or blue" lifestyle and that is just time I do not have, secondly, I'm fallible and might be looking at tactics that are completely irrelevant while overlookign things that matter, and finally, because it's an unscientific way to accrue data and would be worthless and misleading. The only things we can track with any precision are straightforward, yes/no/how long/how much types of things. Beyond that I always hesitate to speculate because people put WAY too much stock into my musings, and I end up with people basing sways around things that are essentially me talking out my butt, or convinced they either have a guarantee so skip lots of other things, or that they should give up without even trying, and all based on me just thinking out loud. So I try not to do that!

[atomic sagebrush]

the algal oils for Omega 3 are ok because they are ONLY oil. All other components have been removed from them. That is fine to continue.

Krill oil is fine too. The important thing is that you're not taking too much. No more than 500 mg from all supplements and more like 250 may be better for a good number of people.

How much black cumin? Dietary amounts only. Every single thing, even if it's totally benign, can have cumulative effects both with itself and then in other things that you eat and drink and take. Think of it this way - if you're taking, drinking, or eating something to such extent that it's like a medicine, it can have medicinal effects, and thye more things you take in concert, the more potential interactions they can have. Since none of these things have been adequately studied for safety, let alone for swaying, it's best to treat all foods/drinks/supplements as a part of a balanced diet, everything in moderation. Even beyond your sway, it's better for your health overall not to ingest large amounts of anything. Even things that seem completely benign and commonplace like cinnamon, peppermint, garlic, turmeric, etc can be harmful in too large a dose and in combination with other things that may enhance their effectiveness or have the same effect (like, garlic and turmeric and cinnamon are all powerful blood thinners and using a lot all together can have a severe effect on the ability of your blood to clot. Cinnamon and apple cider vinegar that many people have daily can cause your blood sugar to drop REALLY low and cause some unpleasant and even harmful side effects (we've had some people faint from low blood sugar using these things) Certain vitamins can add to these issues.

Yes I'm in the middle of replying to your post about the powders. Some of them are ok (the collagen, and probably the collard green one but I would treat that as a dietary intake and not a free for all in case there are medicinal effects we do not know) and some of them you should run from and never go back. Again, so sorry about the delay!

[atomic sagebrush]

I would keep hubby at half that intake. We have no evidence linking almond milk in men to any negative effect on a sway whatsoever but we also have no data on that (other than to note as found in studies that vegan men have more girls.) Just to hedge our bets, let's half that, and hopefully he will be happy and will still be having less than he was.

[Thefinalcountdown]

To be safe, I’m going to switch him to dairy milk until after conception. I’m just going to stop the black cumin seeds- maybe a 1/4 tsp every so often. I was only taking it Bc it’s supposed to help with milk supply and it’s tasty on a salad. They are high in iron too.
I’m not going to do the collagen or the collards powder it’s just too weird and boy diet seems to be a wide range of non processed foods eating them not powders and pills and stuff, if I’ve read it correctly.
I can eat collards normal style and instead of collagen I can just get the extra protein from meat dairy eggs beans and nuts.

I just want to keep it simple and normal. Boy moms from what I read don’t really get mega on all the supplements powders and lubes and all the voodoo.


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[Thefinalcountdown]

Also Also… what about sunflower/ sesame/ pumpkin seeds? Just a bit here or there no huge amounts. Just in trail mix I make myself.


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Also also also… in my musings I was thinking about what I had read in the “how we got our boys” thread and (I read all of them) seemingly lots of moms conceived boys after a time of weight loss/ toning before a period of eating well (I.e. slimming down for a wedding then a few weeks/ months of indulgence before conception) and I wondered if maybe that weight loss period of time followed by a period of plenty signaled an even more boy friendly condition than say, someone who would be living on a consistent diet without much variation before conception. As in, maybe that weight loss phase triggers a mechanism that turns on the efficiency of the body to use nutrients so that when the mothers begin or resume a diet of plenty, their body is now loaded up because it has its efficiency turned up to the max. I don’t know it just seemed like a recurrent theme!


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How much does personality fit into this? How do I know my personality do you have a post about it? A checklist maybe I should take on some more stuff!!!


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[atomic sagebrush]

Or you can just take a "moderation in all things" sort of approach and do those things SOMEtimes, but I understand if it helps make it feel more simple to juggle it all.

Dietary amounts of seeds are fine, don't do the "seed cycling" that some people recommend (this was literally made up on no evidence by a blogger and then now lots of people act like it's a proven thing) I certainly ate them at times when I got my boys and I was eating the pumpkin seed granola with my younger two.

Keep in mind that most of us, myself included, when writing in that thread had the basic sway info in our minds and were mentioning things that meshed with that, because we thought people might be interested, and NOT because those things ~necessarily~ sway.

I do think it's possible that people's bodies might notice a change in condition after a weight loss, but I sure wouldn't want to count on that. I think it's best to just aim at improving condition overall instead of first declining then improving. Why take 2 steps back before you even start?