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  1. #301
    Hi swayers,
    KD....omg, we are in the same boat it seems!
    I have a feeling I might o tomorrow which is really early. The vitex is changing my symptoms!

    What are you doing to do?
    Last month we did the same as you and we had a BFN.
    We had a 3 day abstain and then we did FR and dtd as well with rephresh. It was overkill. We also did shallow and J and D.
    It was too much and nothing!

    So, this month so far we have abstained...too busy and DH is not a releaser....he was waiting for me to decide!
    Problem is...if I o tomorrow and I have abstained.....that is more boy friendly right?

    I used rephresh last night like KD...not all of it but a lot.
    Does that come out the next day and look like EWCM?
    My mon did not peak...but the CBFM looks like it is even.....which is usually around peak!
    I have one OPK left so I am not sure if I should use it or not!
    What to do????
    I am sick so I am not thinking clearly!

    KD we have to help each other...time is ticking...!

    PS: Dh is 39 and I am 37!
    Which country are you in?

  2. #302
    Zan..not sure if you are still up being prego and in England!
    But, just wondering if I should go ahead and dtd tonight when DH has abstained for 7-10 days and I used rephresh last night.
    I ran out of OPKS so I am going by my o pains...pretty strong actually.
    I have EWCM but could that be represh?
    I ran out of replens!
    I took an advil cold and sinus (the word with p and h...cant remember it now) and last night took some with antihistamine bc I am sick.
    What to do?
    Wait a day?
    Go for it?
    UGH!
    I am too old for this

    KD...did you sway too hard for a year? Is that what is going on?
    What are you going to do?

    FR ? FBD?

    Oh, and one more thing...should I go for it once or keep going?
    Should DH release first?

    He is out at work until later so now I have time to get stressed out?
    If I use more rephresh how much should I use?

  3. #303
    I am not Zan (but I am in the England!) and I say go for it! You have more than enough abstaining to have reduced sperm count and I don't think that timing really matters.

    Don't get stressed and I wouldn't dump the first batch, I would just go for it.

    I also think the rephresh you used last night should be enough.

    Good luck with what you decide and relax! xx
    - January 2008, - March 2010 - my royal baby July 2013

    Hoping for a at some point, still weighing up HT or swaying.....

  4. #304
    Is this dumb...can I suddenly ovulate on cd 10 out of the blue?
    Maybe out of the blue can help..lol!
    I guess I am just rushing to conclusions bc my symptoms are all over the place. I am probably perimenopausal!

    If anyone knows you can go from cd 12 to cd 10 bc of vitex...can you let me know. It seems really early to me!

  5. #305
    THANKS maybe!
    How are you...I have not seen any posts for a bit...or maybe I am just getting confused!

    I am not even sure if I am jumping to conclusions...how can I possibly o on cd 10????
    I do know with DS 2 I conceived on cd 8 with weeks of abstain...lol, DS 1 was 11 mos old!
    So, of course...I would try the exact same thing!!!

    So no more rephresh?
    Anyone else...opinions?
    Could I possibly be oing this early..or is the rephresh creating this lubey EWCM.....!?

    Either way,....gotta get prego!
    This swaying is driving me wild!

    thanks for the help maybe!

    Didnt you do every other day???

  6. #306
    Quote Originally Posted by lemon2012 View Post
    THANKS maybe!
    How are you...I have not seen any posts for a bit...or maybe I am just getting confused!

    I am not even sure if I am jumping to conclusions...how can I possibly o on cd 10????
    I do know with DS 2 I conceived on cd 8 with weeks of abstain...lol, DS 1 was 11 mos old!
    So, of course...I would try the exact same thing!!!

    So no more rephresh?
    Anyone else...opinions?
    Could I possibly be oing this early..or is the rephresh creating this lubey EWCM.....!?

    Either way,....gotta get prego!
    This swaying is driving me wild!

    thanks for the help maybe!

    Didnt you do every other day???
    I had a big blob of what seemed EWCM this morning after using RePHresh for the first time last night, so it could be that? I also used my Diva to see if I could collect any CM, and all I could get was the cottage cheese stuff.

    I am thinking I won't use the Replens tonight especially if RePhresh is supposed to work for 72 hours, I think it might be overkill. Or maybe I am wrong???????
    42 38, , 13, 11,6, 4 & !!!
    "There shall be no one miscarrying or barren in your land; I will fulfill the number of your days." Exodus 23:26

  7. #307
    Quote Originally Posted by lemon2012 View Post
    Zan..not sure if you are still up being prego and in England!
    But, just wondering if I should go ahead and dtd tonight when DH has abstained for 7-10 days and I used rephresh last night.
    I ran out of OPKS so I am going by my o pains...pretty strong actually.
    I have EWCM but could that be represh?
    I ran out of replens!
    I took an advil cold and sinus (the word with p and h...cant remember it now) and last night took some with antihistamine bc I am sick.
    What to do?
    Wait a day?
    Go for it?
    UGH!
    I am too old for this

    KD...did you sway too hard for a year? Is that what is going on?
    What are you going to do?

    FR ? FBD?

    Oh, and one more thing...should I go for it once or keep going?
    Should DH release first?

    He is out at work until later so now I have time to get stressed out?
    If I use more rephresh how much should I use?
    I too had the EWCM this morning, but when I tried to collect with my Diva, I got none, just the cottage cheese stuff, so who knows at this point. Have you tried to collect some CM in a cup?
    42 38, , 13, 11,6, 4 & !!!
    "There shall be no one miscarrying or barren in your land; I will fulfill the number of your days." Exodus 23:26

  8. #308
    Quote Originally Posted by lemon2012 View Post
    Zan..not sure if you are still up being prego and in England!
    But, just wondering if I should go ahead and dtd tonight when DH has abstained for 7-10 days and I used rephresh last night.
    I ran out of OPKS so I am going by my o pains...pretty strong actually.
    I have EWCM but could that be represh?
    I ran out of replens!
    I took an advil cold and sinus (the word with p and h...cant remember it now) and last night took some with antihistamine bc I am sick.
    What to do?
    Wait a day?
    Go for it?
    UGH!
    I am too old for this

    KD...did you sway too hard for a year? Is that what is going on?
    What are you going to do?

    FR ? FBD?

    Oh, and one more thing...should I go for it once or keep going?
    Should DH release first?

    He is out at work until later so now I have time to get stressed out?
    If I use more rephresh how much should I use?
    I had researched the Shettles method and was trying that for the first 6 months of TTC, then the last year I found the o+12 theory on IG and started to sway pretty hard at first, but got burnt out on the diet. Now I have found this site and feel like there is new hope for my PINK dream.

    My DH released once today so far after 4 days abstaining. He is going to again shortly and we will DTD later tonight. Not sure about the Replens in addition to the RePHresh last night? Think it might be overkill? Might JAD though.
    42 38, , 13, 11,6, 4 & !!!
    "There shall be no one miscarrying or barren in your land; I will fulfill the number of your days." Exodus 23:26

  9. #309
    Quote Originally Posted by lemon2012 View Post
    Hi swayers,
    KD....omg, we are in the same boat it seems!
    I have a feeling I might o tomorrow which is really early. The vitex is changing my symptoms!

    What are you doing to do?
    Last month we did the same as you and we had a BFN.
    We had a 3 day abstain and then we did FR and dtd as well with rephresh. It was overkill. We also did shallow and J and D.
    It was too much and nothing!

    So, this month so far we have abstained...too busy and DH is not a releaser....he was waiting for me to decide!
    Problem is...if I o tomorrow and I have abstained.....that is more boy friendly right?

    I used rephresh last night like KD...not all of it but a lot.
    Does that come out the next day and look like EWCM?
    My mon did not peak...but the CBFM looks like it is even.....which is usually around peak!
    I have one OPK left so I am not sure if I should use it or not!
    What to do????
    I am sick so I am not thinking clearly!

    KD we have to help each other...time is ticking...!

    PS: Dh is 39 and I am 37!
    Which country are you in?
    Well I am in the USA and agree we have to help each other and time is so ticking!!
    We are practically twins lemon12 with our ages.
    I would use OPK in the AM like I did today. I got no +OPKs yesterday, but today I have gotten 3 about 4 hours apart. My mon is not showing PEAK yet either, but mine is not even yet though like yours.
    42 38, , 13, 11,6, 4 & !!!
    "There shall be no one miscarrying or barren in your land; I will fulfill the number of your days." Exodus 23:26

  10. #310
    um, so do you think I will o tomorrow? Is that ridiculously early and even possible? Wouldn't I have to have the world's shortest cycle????

    Hmm, if you have him release again ask him how much it spurts....this is totally TMI, but maybe one thing that went wrong last month was that DH released and then we dtd two hours later...it basically spurted a bit but did not propel iykwim......so, if you j and d, don't have him release again. If you want to lay there and go deep then maybe...but that is a lot! Is he super sperm ma? Maybe...lol, you have 4 boys right!? You started younger than me though I had one in 2006 and one in 2008...but really it was almost 4 years ago!
    So, you have to count on that as well...right.??? we both do!

    If I dtd tonight and I o tomorrow????what do you think?
    total boy zone!
    UGH!

    You are definitely gearing up to o...when did you start cbfm?
    Mine did not show peak last month bc I peaked so early!

    oh, and PS....1 year of shettles under my belt....so embarrassing!
    Seriously, how old are we.... lol!
    We have tried the 3 day cut off and only managed 4 or so.....and then we got closer but really made it impossible..douching, shallow, etc
    So, there goes a year of buidling up to this,...if I was going to have another boy I would have just dtd whenever a year ago! ugh!

    (i pushed a button and now my question mark does not work...sorry, cant use it though!)

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