Vitamin b6 and vitex

**atomic sagebrush** · January 21st, 2012, 02:03 PM

Originally Posted by twinkle

This is what im doing at the moment

Folic acid - whole month
Baby asprin - 1 3x a week whole cycle
Vitex - whole cycle
B6 - ??? havent a clue how much or when to take it really
cetirizine hydochloride - one a day af-ovulation
Rephresh - 1/2 a tube every 3 days af - ovulation
Timing - one off try with a 2 day cut off (may change this as timing is hard with my cycles at the moment)

We are trying to be team baby as we are so desprate to have another baby but i just cant give up on my sway compleatly and a part sway has to be better than none at all

How much folic? Should be 2000 mcg at least with a history of m/c.

baby aspirin

Switch vitex to AF-O only

Don't take cetirizine on O day, stop the day before O just to be cautious. Also, you do not need to take it from AF-O, you only need to take it for 4-5 days prior to O, or any day you have EWCM, whichever is longer. this may be something to drop if you don't get pg because you need at least some EWCM to conceive.

Rephresh altho you may want to drop it if you don't get pg.

Timing - one attempt with a two day cutoff (plus everything else you're doing) is almost certainly going to prevent pregnancy. You may as well be on birth control. If you want to do jsut one attempt, push it closer to O (so 1DBO) and/or I would also have you do more than one attempt. Using RepHresh and cetirizine makes it much, much more difficult for sperm to survive to reach an egg, so you need to start off with more sperm to begin with to make up for the greater amount you will lose in the process. We do not believe that timing sways. http://genderdreaming.com/forum/gend...le-timing.html

**twinkle** · January 21st, 2012, 06:14 PM

The hormonal imbalance was diagnosed by the gyane dr at the hospital after i had a ultrasound and a MRI scan done to find the cause of my pain (which has now gone) and irregular bleeding (also stopped) and the exessive strange cm in the 1st half of my cycle, a little tmi maybe lol. The gyane dr at the hospital had onlt seen me from across her desk never ran any bloods or examined me on the 2 visits i had with her. Her only help was to say your body should sort its self out but if not them maybe its somthing you will have to live with.

I was unhappy with her so made a drs apointment for a second opinion/help with the imbalance. My gp said well your 37 and have 5 happy healthy children do you think maybe you should count your blessings. I had tears stingging my eyes but managed to hold it together and eplaine how the loss of the twins had made us realise how much we did infact want to expand our family. Her fix for me was well i think you should go on the pill for at least 3 months and come back and see me after then. She did mention taking progersterone but i think i will have to wait til the 3 months is up before she will even consider it.

Thank you so much for all your advice i will leave the rephresh out this month

folic acid - all cycle
baby asprin - 3x a week all cycle
vitex - af-o
cetirizine hydochloride - before o when i have more cm
b6 - 50mg all cycle
rlt instead of peppermint tea

The more i read and follow the more i belive timming isnt such a big factor but its just one of those things i worry about so maybe i will do a shorter cut off

**twinkle** · January 21st, 2012, 06:19 PM

I also think the based the imbalance on the fact my cycles were always 27-28 days and now they are anything from a 22 day cycle. Would have liked a blood test to confirm and also to clarify what was out of balance

**atomic sagebrush** · January 22nd, 2012, 11:35 AM

So they never gave you any kind of official diagnosis?? Is your cycle short only in the last half of the cycle or is it just short overall?? It's ok for your cycle to get shorter as you age, that happens to many people but you do need at least 10-12 days AFTER ovulation to help a baby implant and better still, 12-14.

Going on the pill for 3 cycles may help, and also will sway pink for you. Personally i would be a little reluctant to do that without having had any kind of blood test or official diagnosis because the Pill can make some hormonal imbalances worse.

Did you read the timing link I posted in the above answer? It may help you let go of timing a little bit. At 37, you simply don't have the luxury of time to play around with cutoffs. You need to get pg as soon as you can.

**twinkle** · January 23rd, 2012, 07:05 AM

At the moment my Lp is about 9-10 days. I have been thinking about it all weekend and i have decided i am going to go back to the drs again this week and ask for bloods to be done and ask for progesterone, whats the worsed she can do...... say no. I hope with me asking nicely and taking im my data from may last few cycles she might be a little more helpful. I have read your timing link thank you, im considering just not worrying about timing too much my want for a heathy baby kind of is out waying the desire for pink but i know if/when i get a bfp i will be praying the whole time for pink and hoping that i didnt miss out because of it, its hard to know whats for the best. Thanks again atomic your always so helpful

**rainbowflower** · January 23rd, 2012, 07:25 AM

good luck Twinkle - I went to the GP for similar reasons before Christmas and took my charts, etc. but got a bad response... so booked to see a different GP at the same practice and got the same response. Hope they take you seriously, but I have serious doubts about the quality of fertility knowledge by GPs in this country!

**twinkle** · January 24th, 2012, 06:08 AM

I totaly agree with you and sadly i think im wating my time but ive got to try just to know that thats not a option. Also i sadly think the hospital gyne drs i saw were just as unhelpful she was of the opinon of well you have kids already so think yourself luck, which i do im very greatful for the children that i have been blessed with. I will post on here and let you know how i get on, my only saving thought is she did mention about progestone last time but i didnt press her as she had made me feel like crap and reduced me to tears but this time im going to be strong and be more asertive (sp)

fingers crossed only 24 hrs till my apointment

**rainbowflower** · January 24th, 2012, 06:38 AM

aww I was reduced to tears by my doctors too.. they pretty much said they wouldn't do anything until I'd been TTC for a year and didn't even know what a luteal phase was.

crossing my fingers and toes (and legs, seeing as I'm in the 2ww) for you! let me know how you get on

**twinkle** · January 25th, 2012, 08:23 AM

I have everything crossed for you rainbowflower thats apart from my legs!!!

Well i managed to get a earlier apointment and went into see the dr today, as predicted no help acording to her a short LP and short cycles just mean you get more chances and not aproblem and she would not give me progesterone as i was ttc

She was also very unimpressed with our choice of trying again and said well if you have another m/c i will refer you to the recurrant miscarrage clinic. Also went to great lengths to say just because i had 5 healthy children didnt mean the next one would be as i am getting older so are my eggs. Now i know im 37 and not as fertile as i maybe was at 20 but come on im not a dinosaur yet!!

Now im going with total PMA and going to prove the dr that i can and will have my rainbow baby and im looking forward to going to her to get booked in for my antinatal appointments and i WILL give her no chance to spoil MY dream to become a mum one more time

**twinkle** · January 25th, 2012, 08:26 AM

right now to get things clear in my head again

Folic acid - 800mg allcycle
vitex - af- ovulation
b6 - 50mg all cycle
baby asprin - 75mg every other day or every third day??

timing mmmm im not to sure still what is the easiest/best
RePHesh im not to sure what to do with that either maybe a bit the day before bd?

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