the calcium conundrum - CONTROVERSIAL

[Freya]

I read somewhere that calcium and potassium regulate the CM consistency in conjunction with estrogen, progesterone and pH. I found some nice articles on proteins called mucins that were interesting reading (one is here: article). I think all evidence points in one direction, to be honest, but it's possible that dietary intake of calcium might not play a great part if there is lots of estrogen in your system, for instance.

[atomic sagebrush]

Thank you for sharing! Interesting info!

[atomic sagebrush]

For some reason the link to the second part of this essay wasn't in the first part...

http://genderdreaming.com/forum/show...conundrum+part

[Glittergirl]

I think I conceived my boys by not taking in calcium. the only calcium I got was from green leafy vegetables, a few servings of cheese a week, and yogurt maybe once a week. That's it. I haven't drank milk in probably 10 years and I just don't like dairy at all! If I had cerreal, it was rice milk. Now that I'm keeping track of my calcium I realize how much dairy and supps I have to consume just to be within normal limits and avoid osteoparosis ( my mom has early signs of it). So maybe I should do the opposite of what I did? I still can't get myself to drink milk but I'm drinking kefir, eating yogurt and cheese. So for me I think I do have to take calcium to help my pink sway.

[shouldihope?]

I have to chime in and say that I love me some dairy! I have 3 boys so now I am wondering since I am ttc a girl what that means for me. I have changed to rice milk and actually cut back on dairy other than low fat string cheese and yogurt not sure if I should cut back more? I guess I need to thow out the calcium support that I bought because they have vit d in them. Did not see any without it. Not sure what to do about that either?

[atomic sagebrush]

I think I conceived my boys by not taking in calcium. the only calcium I got was from green leafy vegetables, a few servings of cheese a week, and yogurt maybe once a week. That's it. I haven't drank milk in probably 10 years and I just don't like dairy at all! If I had cerreal, it was rice milk. Now that I'm keeping track of my calcium I realize how much dairy and supps I have to consume just to be within normal limits and avoid osteoparosis ( my mom has early signs of it). So maybe I should do the opposite of what I did? I still can't get myself to drink milk but I'm drinking kefir, eating yogurt and cheese. So for me I think I do have to take calcium to help my pink sway.

A lot of people have had success on the French Gender/IG diet and if you feel good about going that way then that is GREAT! I am not trying to deter anyone in any way at all and in fact I will help you however I can. I just want people to have all the info available so they can pick what works best for them.

The one thing that I DON'T want people to do is say, it's too hard to stick to the diet so I will just take calcium supplements and avoid salt. I saw several people do that on IG and I feel that is a recipe for a failed sway.

[Sunset]

This post is so interesting, but I also have to add that scandinavian food is incredibly high in salt and the main foods are red meat and potatoes along with "salty" fish and soya based sauces. So yes, while scandinavian people may consume alot of calcium they also consume alot of red meat and high amount of salt and potassium and the food is always cooked using full fat cream. I know this because I'm swedish myself and grew up in Sweden scandinavian food is far from girl friendly on any level so I am not suprised swedes/scandinavians give birth to alot of boys!

[purplepoet20]

Ok so now my calcium plan is looking confusing.

BIG ??? What kind of calcium was everyone taking?
Calcium Carbonate is the most common calcium in drinks/mixed/prenatal/plain vitamins or anything with calcium in it. Suppose to sway boy. Calcium Citrate is harder to find in a vitamin by itself, I found mine at GNC. Suppose to sway girl! I decided to disolve calcium pills in water... Calcium Citrate 250mg was at a 6.5 ph and Calcium Caronate 600mg (with 500IU of D) was at a 9.8ph. Before I changed calcium I took 1,200mg a day of the Cal Caronate (since before my boys) and no other dairy and my ph was on average 8-9.8. After going to 2,000mg of Cal Citrate with no other dairy my ph is about 6.2..... My DS1 is allergic to dairy and soy (he can open the frig) so we have decided to keep them out of the house for now.

Dairy is suppose to turn acidic in the body but has a high ph. Dairy that comes from cows that were giving antibiotics or hormones are more likely to increase your boy swaying hormones. Fortified dairy should only be for swaying boy. Dairy in the form of RAW is hormones/anti/fortify free milk so it would be for a girl sway??? One list I found list all drinkable dairy as turning akaline in the body but butter, cheese, cottage cheese, custard, ice cream, and milk (boiled, cooked, dried) are acidifying???

So what is best for a girl sway???

[atomic sagebrush]

I think skim milk and fat-free yogurt is the best dairy for pink but watch the protein and sodium/potassium and don't drink too much. Organic is best and raw is great (because of the vitamin D) but not everyone can get raw milk.

Calcium citrate is often recommended for pink. I thought it was because of the pH but apparently the pH is much higher. Another girl was taking it and it made her pH skyrocket! (I WISH this was easier! :P)

The acid/alkaline stuff is so confusing and to make it worse the info is different between books and between websites.

I cannot say, until more scientific research is done, what is truly best. There are no guarantees in this unfortunately.

I can tell you that if I was swaying pink, I would eat a low protein, low calorie, low fat, low sodium, low nutrient diet (and yes, even less calcium), lose weight, and keep my blood sugar on the low side.

If I was swaying blue I would do the exact opposite of that, plus lift weights.

[purplepoet20]

I am started to think that we (DH too) will be diabetic vegans for about a month That should help me to loose the extra weight I need to sway girl.


Acid/Akaline info that I have found very useful is from the livingstrong website. They actually say that foods that are acidic turn akaline in the body..... having some fun I tested the ph in my meals/drinks for 4 days, urine, and cm (right before, during, and after Ov) Eating Grapefruit and Lemon Aid raised my ph so high that I thought the meter was wrong.

With my next Ov cycle I am going to eat acidifying foods from the list and see what happens... I will update in a few weeks with the results.