Does SMEP sway?

[Mommasita]

How does SMEP play into the whole frequency theory? Is there any data suggesting more boys vs. girls or vice versa from SMEP?

[BeadinMom]

What's SMEP?

[Mommasita]

Sperm Meets Egg Plan. You BD every second day from CD 8 to when you get a + OPK. When you get your + OPK you BD once a day for two days, then you skip one day, and BD one last time. Many women find it a useful timing plan to get pregnant.

[zanacal]

The frequency in isolation of anything else would sway blue as it's good for maximising sperm count. I would imagine if there was any data of boys vs girls while doing the plan it would be difficult to read too much in to it if people were doing it because they were struggling to get pregnant and perhaps had lower fertility to begin with and were therefore more likely to conceive a girl.

[LolaInLove]

I think it sways blue, but ITA with Zan about the lower fertility overall= girls. I would say you could do a modified SMEP by just bding a heck of a lot more (like the girl sway FR thing, which I don't know a lot about!). The point of SMEP is to increase sperm count and make sure you hit your ovulation, though, which I do think would sway blue in regularly fertile folks.

[Zivic-Bubac]

There was a thread about SMEP on IG and the conclusion was it sways pink big time.

[LolaInLove]

There was a thread about SMEP on IG and the conclusion was it sways pink big time.

Really? But on IG, they thought you needed to bd only on O-4 and then O and anything else swayed pink, remember? ZB, my DH's reproductive urologist told us that dtd every other day raises sperm count the most of any pattern and that is what he wants us to do. I guess the bding every day over O might be a bit pink-friendly, but the uro said that even daily raises count significantly, and raises the number of good sperm too. What he did not recommend was twice a day or more.

If I were swaying pink and wanted to do a SMEP "modification" (and Atomic will be much more informative with this, but from my experience and knowledge about sperm at this point....), I would have DH release twice a day for like 6 days before a + on the opk, then I would dtd twice a day for 3 more days. That is pretty much frequent release though. SMEP is really not designed to be a swaying method, but just a get pregnant immediately method, therefore, I think the idea is to raise sperm count, so that is why I think it sways blue.

[atomic sagebrush]

How does SMEP play into the whole frequency theory? Is there any data suggesting more boys vs. girls or vice versa from SMEP?

The problem with the SMEP stats, is that a lot of people who use SMEP, are having trouble TTC to begin with. Many things that cause fertility issues, sway pink (low sperm count, poor sperm quality, hostile CM, low estrogen) and also a lot of women who just had m/c also use SMEP (first 1-2 cycles after miscarriage also sway pink) so the group of people who do SMEP are to some extent preselected towards having girls. The stats are probably skewed to be more pink friendly than that pattern would be for a couple of normal/high fertility.

For a typical couple with normal/high fertility, I believe SMEP would sway blue because DTD every other day is ideal for upping sperm count and health, and lots of healthy sperm seems to yield more boy conceptions for reasons we don't understand.

[atomic sagebrush]

There was a thread about SMEP on IG and the conclusion was it sways pink big time.

Not to take a potshot at IG but they tend to only look at raw data without understanding why the numbers are the way they are. It doesn't matter if the numbers do appear more pink friendly than blue friendly, because the original sample (the people who choose to do SMEP) are already preselected to have more girls to begin with. For statistics to be accurate you need a large group across the entire population. The typical couple is NOT the same as the group who generally uses SMEP, and I believe doing SMEP will be more likely to produce boys in the population as a whole.

[BeadinMom]

The problem with the SMEP stats, is that a lot of people who use SMEP, are having trouble TTC to begin with. Many things that cause fertility issues, sway pink (low sperm count, poor sperm quality, hostile CM, low estrogen) and also a lot of women who just had m/c also use SMEP (first 1-2 cycles after miscarriage also sway pink) so the group of people who do SMEP are to some extent preselected towards having girls. The stats are probably skewed to be more pink friendly than that pattern would be for a couple of normal/high fertility.

For a typical couple with normal/high fertility, I believe SMEP would sway blue because DTD every other day is ideal for upping sperm count and health, and lots of healthy sperm seems to yield more boy conceptions for reasons we don't understand.

Certainly worked that way for me! We were going for FR with DS3, but missed a day or so inbetween a few times & didn't think it would make a difference. I had NO IDEA that sperm count came back up that fast...LOL...with my diet & our BD routine its no wonder we have boys.