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June 30th, 2012, 12:05 PM #11Dreamer
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June 30th, 2012, 12:23 PM #12
I'm sorry, I'm just explaining. I don't wish to offend anyone over weight, fertility, etc, I'm just following this tiny trail of crumbs and trying to draw conclusions we can use to sway and as of now, the fertility stuff makes the most sense of anything. I could be 100% totally wrong.
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July 1st, 2012, 07:02 PM #13Dream Vet
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This is such an interesting topic to me. I've had Crohn's disease for the past 15 years. it's caused me to be chronically malnourished as many nutrients aren't absorbed by my intestinal tract. Because of this, I've been about 97lbs for as long as I remember, I'm skin and bones! Still, I've carried 2 healthy, hearty BOYS to term-gaining 40lbs each pregnancy without effort. I'm always hoping that some of that baby weight will stick with me, but it falls off about 8 weeks later and I get Chron's symptoms again. After reading here about declining maternal condition and gender ratio, I'm a bit shocked that I've only had boys! I've been in declining condition for years! Still, I'm hopeful that with some dietary changes, I can sway pink. I can't afford to lose weight but I can drop the red meat, sodium and potassium. I can up the dairy and chug back the crystal light. Atomic Sagebrush, any thoughts on this for me? I'd certainly appreciate your feedback. It should be noted that whatever nutrients I have been absorbing over the years have always been of decent quality. I've rarely consumed aspartame in my lifetime and have always eaten a pretty well rounded healthy diet.
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July 1st, 2012, 11:01 PM #14Dream Vet
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July 2nd, 2012, 06:55 AM #15Big Dreamer
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I did conceive my only daughter while loosing weight, but I also conceived this baby, a BOY, while loosing weight.... I definitely gained weight while ttcing my ds2 (no clue with ds1, he was not a planned conception).
I do find that both the skinny as well as overweight women (and I mean seriously overweight not just a few pounds too much..) in my vicinity usually have girls....
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July 3rd, 2012, 01:28 PM #16
Well, first of all keep in mind that what we in the modern world consider "declining condition", in terms of the diets and lives of virtually all other women who have ever lived, is an embarrassment of riches. Humans have a kajillion years of evolution (or were designed by God) to withstand famines that lasted months/years while infested with intestinal worms, existing on a rotten banana, a handful of crickets, and maybe a few seeds. Just by virtue of eating a well-rounded diet, taking supplements or eating fortified foods as I assume you probably do, even if you can't absorb all the nutrients therein, immediately puts you in better stead than most people who have ever lived. Evolutionarily speaking, it's NORMAL for women to weigh 97 pounds, it's not normal for them to weight 197 pounds. If humans couldn't conceive boys at 97 pounds, the entire human race would have died out a long time ago.
Secondly, if you've lived your life with your body doing a certain thing, being a certain weight, absorbing a certain amount of nutrients and that's what it's used to, then that's just not going to sway for you in the way that it would someone else. Your body doesn't interpret that as any kind of crisis, it's just what it's used to life being. In fact, for all you know you may have been in improving condition just prior to pregnancy. Maybe things were going a little bit better the months you conceived than in other months and you didn't fully realize it. Maybe your Vit. D was a little higher, maybe you'd had a bit more rest - the human body is so amazingly complex that it's really impossible to know what is really and truly going on.
Finally, it may be that Crohn's Disease is one of those illnesses that alters the gender ratio in some way. Hepatitis B and toxoplasmosis have been proven to alter the gender ratio towards blue as has PCOS, insulin-dependent diabetic mothers have more daughters, and we've observed some other trends that unfortunately no one has studied yet (moms with certain autoimmune disorders may have more sons). There's another lady on here with Crohn's who also has sons, obviously in no way a reliable sample size, but it's just something to consider.!!! Questions??Check out the NEW and improved Complete Index !!!
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July 3rd, 2012, 01:58 PM #17
In fact, MORE boys might be born in famines as a percentage of the population, because only the women who were in decent physical condition to begin with and/or have access to food resources, were able to and perhaps more importantly, willing to, keep having kids. There's this big assumption that famines affect all people equally, but really in the real world, unfortunately there are haves and have nots and the haves tend to be better off to begin with and often are richer and can buy or have stored, whatever they need. And even back then, people had their ways of not getting pregnant. So people who don't have a lot of resources, in a time of famine, either stop having kids by design (you can see this by how much the birth rate has dropped just in the last 3 years in a world where we're all fed and provided for compared to most peopel throughout history) or because they're unable to conceive because they stop ovulating. The group that continues having kids, is preselected for being willing and able to conceive, almost certainly by virtue of having adequate resources. AKA people who are more likely to conceive boys to begin with.
Ok now stop making these interesting posts ladies!!!I have a lot to do today!!
(just kidding, I love this stuff)
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July 3rd, 2012, 02:57 PM #18Dream Vet
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Fascinating! You're probably right. Around the time that I conceived my sons, I think I was in relatively good health. Seeing a naturopath, taking vitamins/supplements, eating well. Sure, I'll always have this autoimmune disease, I'll always be thin, but there are peaks and valleys in my health and I certainly enjoy a better lifestyle than those you mentioned(living on a rotten banana and crickets!) I live in the Western world, abundant with food and luxury, I absolutely benefit from that. You mentioned that it's *possible* that an autoimmune disease such as mine could sway blue, like the other Chron's sufferer here who has boys, I'm praying that there's still hope for me. I'm aching for a daughter and I'm throwing myself at this sway as it's my last baby and my last shot.
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July 3rd, 2012, 03:10 PM #19
Hey Jadis~ Its me with the crohns that Atomic was mentioning! I don't have time to read the thread right now, but will later. we can chat
We still have a chance I conceived a girl as my third pregnancy lost at 14 weeks (genetic issues).
Cycle#1 Jan/Feb 2013: 10 eggs retrieved, 8 mature, 8 fertilized. 1 expanded blast frozen to batch.
Cycle #2 May/June 2013: 17 eggs retrieved, 14 mature, 11 fertilized, 3 blasts frozen. Sending all 4 to Natera: 2 normals- 1 girl (cycle 2) & 1 boy (cycle 1)
Cycle #3 September 2013: 11 eggs retrieved, 8 mature, 8 fertilized. 4 biopsied. 2 normal boys
FET #1: October 25th: BFN
Cycle#4: Feb/March 2014: 12 eggs retrieved, 11 mature, 10 fertilized. 1 normal XX! Transfer March 3rd. BFP: 3/9/14!!!! Beta: 7dp6dt:38, 9dp6dt:139!, 6weeks 1 day: heartbeat!!!
She's here and I'm in love
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July 3rd, 2012, 05:20 PM #20Dream Vet
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Hope, thanks for the response! Look forward to chatting
So sorry about your loss, I can't imagine.