Our Girl Sway Plan (lots of questions . . . long)

[Butterfly Spirit]

If you do Clomid...you don't do much else..it sways pink all by itself, and on it you need to get pregnant as FAST as possible. With Vitex, you can do all you want to sway with it. Take it AF-almost O...because if you take it too close to ovulation..it can supress it.

[Inky]

Thank you! Very helpful. So we will start BD at O-3 and go through O next cycle

[atomic sagebrush]

bumping for myself to answer tomorrow, it's a bit long and I'm kind of worn out now

[atomic sagebrush]

Hi Inky, I can tell by your post that you're doing more of an Ingender-style sway so bear with me, we don't do things the same way as IG does so some of this info will seem confusing at first but please just ASK about anything that seems contradictory, I promise there are good reasons why we say and believe everything we do. I'm going to post some links that have full explanations and I hope you read them because they will go a long way towards explaining why a lot of the claims that are made regarding timing, pH, etc are not going to help you get a daughter and may even sway BLUE by (as you've already noticed) making you so stressed out that your testosterone levels go through the roof. High T swaying blue is one thing that IG and Gender Dreaming are in agreement on.

1)Diet does not affect pH regardless of what you read anywhere on the Internet. If the pH of your body goes outside a certain very narrow range, you will DIE. Your doctor will verify this as fact. We have a diet that's easier to stick to and healthier by far than the IG Diet if you are interested in that.

2)pH is NOT a good swaying factor. Not at all. I can't give you that assurance. I would NOT rely on pH to sway gender. The stats on IG for EGS (unless they've suddenly had a big run of success recently) for pink were 50-50 and hundreds of people got pH opposites (both pink and blue). All you're doing is cutting down your odds of pregnancy for something that is not proven to sway one iota.
Please read: http://genderdreaming.com/forum/gend...ph-pickle.html and http://genderdreaming.com/forum/scie...m-y-sperm.html

Regarding EGS, we've chosen not to do EGS on this site because neither I nor the site owner (nuthinbutpink who is an expert in high tech methods of gender selection) believe it is possible and we don't want people wasting their money or time on it. I've written about TBM here but the arguments apply to EGS as well : http://genderdreaming.com/forum/gend...r-swaying.html Also, you may not know this but Dr. Ericsson (who originally came up with the idea of swim up, etc) has admitted that numbers of X and Y sperm are still 50-50 after sperm spinning but claims that these spun sperm are then somehow able to go on to produce babies in other than 50-50 ratio. Other researchers have not been able to back up these claims. So that begs the question, if trained lab technicians using state of the art equipment and supplies made for laboratories to exacting specifications, even Dr. ERicsson himself or those trained by him, can't alter the gender ratio from 50-50, does it really make any more sense that anyone at home using egg whites and sugar water, could be doing anything at all whatsoever???


3)Aside from whether they work or not, I BEG you not to do these extreme sway measures while taking Clomid. You can only be on Clomid a short time and you NEED to get pg as quickly as possible on Clomid. Full explanations are here: http://genderdreaming.com/forum/gend...91-clomid.html and here http://genderdreaming.com/forum/gend...-part-2-a.html You are risking your fertility both in the short and long term, and even CANCER if you take Clomid for any longer than is absolutely necessary.

4)I don't personally believe calcium sways pink and you can read why here. (this is the least concerning to me of everything you're doing so if you're at info overload, save this till another day.) http://genderdreaming.com/forum/tryi...roversial.html This is a three part essay and links to the other two are at the end of the first one.

5)Timing really, really, really does not sway. http://genderdreaming.com/forum/gend...le-timing.html I do not believe the O+12 stuff is true at all because it is VERY difficult, if not impossible to conceive that far after ovulation. Many eggs only live 12 hours after ovulation and it takes time for the sperm to capacitate and make it to the egg. Case against O+12 http://genderdreaming.com/forum/ttc-...ry-o-12-a.html and here http://genderdreaming.com/forum/ttc-...es-o-12-a.html

Also, since you are on Clomid, you NEED to get pg as quickly as possible and so timing is not something you should include even just in case. You don't have the luxury of time on your side.

6)Since you're on Clomid I urge you to forgo frequency and just TTC but if you must (or if you'd just like to be fully informed before making a decision) Frequency and swaying is here:
http://genderdreaming.com/forum/gend...pink-blue.html and if you MUST do abstain + more than one attempt you can read how to do that here: http://genderdreaming.com/forum/ttc-...ff-o-12-a.html

And an explanation of WHY frequency might sway is here: http://genderdreaming.com/forum/gend...frequency.html

I know this is a lot to throw at you in a short time so hopefully not too overwhelming. If you want to know what we are basing all this on and why we are different from IG http://genderdreaming.com/forum/gend...sh-anyway.html and http://genderdreaming.com/forum/gend...ypothesis.html

[atomic sagebrush]

PS - also I'm sorry for not getting back to you sooner, I am still settling in after the birth of my baby and things are a little hectic here.

[atomic sagebrush]

Well, i probably totally ruined this month and killed all the sperm.

so if I were simplifying for next month:

yes to the diet
no to supplements except the folic acid
no EGS
don't worry about PH? My husband's PH is 9. Should I not bring it down AT ALL? If I should a little, what should I bring it down to?
Should I use preseed since I'm on clomid, or is that going to counter my sway? Or just nothing at all?

and for DTD, I should do it every day? And from when to when? Is multiple times a day OK?

Thanks soooo much for helping.

Use Preseed with Clomid only if you are not getting pg AFTER having dropped everything else.

Frequency on Clomid - it depends on how long you've gone on not getting pg. If you've only taken Clomid for a month, you have a little leeway to try frequency. If you've just done 5 months on Clomid and not conceived doing all the EGS stuff, you need to drop everything and use SMEP found here: Sperm Meets Egg Plan because you need to get pg immediately.

[Inky]

You are AMAZING! I've been reading, and everything makes sense. If I am not pregnant this cycle (and I don't feel it) then I want to try a GD sway. Seems WAY less stressful, and the LE diet seems more manageable. you are an angel to take the time to give me all this information and to explain to me the answers to the questions I had. Thank you so much!

[Inky]

One more question:

For the next cycle, do you think we should do frequent release AF-O Could we do like 2x a day for CD7-14 on top of that or should we not do that?

I guess my plan is to do the LE diet and clomid and my ions and nothing else, plus some kind of FR plan. Would that be a good sway?

[atomic sagebrush]

1) I would just do FR from Af-O. Guys are really getting depleted just from FR once a day. The other option (2x a day) is fine for shorter periods but not after that long of FR to begin with.

2)Yes, I think that's a fine pla, but I would drop the FR after 1-2 months if you don't get pg and switch to SMEP.

[Inky]

Thanks! You are amazing! Next cycle, I will do FR 1x a day AF to O. If that doesn't work, I'll try SMEP.

I am late again for AF and worried though this might be my third chemical in a row, so I probably need to talk to the doctor about that, too