Anyone every wonder............................................ ..

[Blueplease]

You know what.. Ive tried to think this myself. I have no idea. Nothing specific. We have thought about going down the PGD route and had the initial tests done. Dh semen came back low concentration which interestingly I read AS saying low semen usually produces pink. I know this isn't 100 truth o form but bery interesting. I can see this forum is going to take over my life.

[LacePrincess]

Yk, just catching up on this thread, and some of Atomic's very interesting and educational (as usual!) points have made me think...... just how far AM I willing to go to get a girl?

In a nutshell, healthiest mom = more boys. Unhealthier, whether over or underweight = more girls. So basically, am I willing to deliberately sabotage my own health and wellbeing and body to have a daughter? And if so, how far am I willing to go? I've only been on these forums for a few weeks, but I already see SO many ladies taking things to such extremes. Sometimes I really am curious how many moms are REALLY thinking of potential ramifications down the road. For example, crash and yo yo dieting can PERMANENTLY ruin your metabolism. We're talking lifelong issues with obesity here. It's been proven that yo yo dieting can change the very nature of your fat/muscle cells to the point where you can eat just about NOTHING and still not lose weight. So IMO, we ALL have to have a little foresight and think about the potential long term consequences of our actions. I know most of us are well aware of this, but sometimes I read posts (I'm still slowly working my way backwards on this site!) where people are eating, like, 1000 calories a day, and I cringe.

Personally, I don't mind a little short term dieting and imbibing in things like aspartame for a few months, but like I said to my husband - I worked too damned hard for this healthy, strong, slim body of mine for the last 2.5 years to destroy it chasing after a girl. Even if it was successful, it's not worth ruining my health, at least to me. Also, if I did wreck my health I'd likely come to resent that child later, and that's not fair to anyone.

Just my two cents, ymmv. But I do think that it's important that we ALL think about how our current actions can potentially affect us beyond the next 9-10 months.

[atomic sagebrush]

You know what.. Ive tried to think this myself. I have no idea. Nothing specific. We have thought about going down the PGD route and had the initial tests done. Dh semen came back low concentration which interestingly I read AS saying low semen usually produces pink. I know this isn't 100 truth o form but bery interesting. I can see this forum is going to take over my life.

We can do some things to fix that, though.

does he smoke or work around any chemicals (even things that seem benign like paint and pesticide has been shown in studies to make more girls)

[atomic sagebrush]

Yk, just catching up on this thread, and some of Atomic's very interesting and educational (as usual!) points have made me think...... just how far AM I willing to go to get a girl?

In a nutshell, healthiest mom = more boys. Unhealthier, whether over or underweight = more girls. So basically, am I willing to deliberately sabotage my own health and wellbeing and body to have a daughter? And if so, how far am I willing to go? I've only been on these forums for a few weeks, but I already see SO many ladies taking things to such extremes. Sometimes I really am curious how many moms are REALLY thinking of potential ramifications down the road. For example, crash and yo yo dieting can PERMANENTLY ruin your metabolism. We're talking lifelong issues with obesity here. It's been proven that yo yo dieting can change the very nature of your fat/muscle cells to the point where you can eat just about NOTHING and still not lose weight. So IMO, we ALL have to have a little foresight and think about the potential long term consequences of our actions. I know most of us are well aware of this, but sometimes I read posts (I'm still slowly working my way backwards on this site!) where people are eating, like, 1000 calories a day, and I cringe.

Personally, I don't mind a little short term dieting and imbibing in things like aspartame for a few months, but like I said to my husband - I worked too damned hard for this healthy, strong, slim body of mine for the last 2.5 years to destroy it chasing after a girl. Even if it was successful, it's not worth ruining my health, at least to me. Also, if I did wreck my health I'd likely come to resent that child later, and that's not fair to anyone.

Just my two cents, ymmv. But I do think that it's important that we ALL think about how our current actions can potentially affect us beyond the next 9-10 months.

But here's the thing tho - you don't HAVE to go that far. Having a girl is NOT as hard as swaying makes it out to be - most women manage it at least once in their lives totally on accident without even trying to. And since this seems to be some sort of natural process, it's that which we want to tap into - something natural that our bodies WANT to do to give our genes the best odds of being handed down to future generations. I've said it before but if you're miserable on the LE Diet and whiteknuckling it every minute and existing on air and Crystal Light, you're not doing it right.

I don't want ANYONE to ever eat 1000 cals a day and I too cringe at that. More is not always better.

Re the metabolism, there are things we can do to help reset our metabolism after weight loss. Exercise and breastfeeding really help with that. Our bodies are designed to live on very little anyway, and so it's actually a GOOD thing that our metabolism can reset. It's normal and natural to survive on lower calories and may not be super good for us in the long term to be eating these massive amounts of calories that most of us are taking in. I think the real problem is that a person's metabolism resets and then they return to overeating - not that they lost weight to begin with, that's good for health.

I believe the LE Diet is perfectly safe to follow (as written) but I do strongly urge everyone to eat the max amount of cals that they can and keep weight loss slow and steady, and stop losing weight before you move out of the normal BMI zone.

[LacePrincess]

Oh yes, I definitely know that Atomic, I am in NO way at ALL saying you're endorsing or encouraging these extremes. In fact, I've really really appreciated you posting all over the place emphasizing moderation and common sense. I find myself thinking thank GOD somebody is!

So thank you. Your advice has been consistently knowledgeable, sensible, and sane.

It's just that our OCD Type A competitive personalities that seem to be most of us boy moms, LMAO, also tend to make us stupidly take things to extreme. When I took up running, it wasn't long before guess what? I became the perfect example of what NOT to do - name an overtraining mistake, and I made it! My stress fracture woke me up, finally. Yah, the last few years have taught me something and really driven home the point that some = good, more does NOT mean better!

I think I'm changing in my outlook on life and my personality as I get into my thirties though. (I refuse to say 'older'! ). I'm definitely more moderate and less extreme in the things I do, and I'm happier and more content. I think in my twenties I was chasing after some vague conception of 'winning' to be happy, kwim? I think that all came from a lack of satisfaction and happiness in my own life, and being secure in who I was. I was always pushing and being aggressive and competitive because I thought winning = happy. Nope.

Sometimes I read about people wanting to 'win' their sways, and really, I get it. The old me would've felt the same. But the more mature me just can't identify with that mindset anymore. IMO, that's a good thing!

[kaseybaby]

I know this is an old thread, but I just had to chime in and say YES!!! i notice this all the time!! I rarely see heavy women with DS. I have absolutely no desire to become obese, but damn sometimes it is tempting to eat my way to a girl

[Rosie85]

Um, actually, it's one version of the LE Diet. The "crash and burn" style

The crash and burn, I love it! I def crashed and burned. I had never eaten so many chips, carbs, sodas, junky foods in my life. ICK lol