Clear blue fertility monitor

[LacePrincess]

Oh, and I see you're bf'ing still, so that does sway pink. However you might have to be patient since you're likely not ovulating yet and it can take awhile for your cycle to normalize, even after your first PPAF.

Also, be careful with the LE diet, you don't want to risk your supply! So please make sure you eat enough to keep your supply sufficient for your l'il guy.

[atomic sagebrush]

Nope the frequency stuff is here in the reg. section, the only stuff that's just for DM is the diet stuff.

http://genderdreaming.com/forum/gend...pink-blue.html

http://genderdreaming.com/forum/gend...frequency.html

Number of attempts is here: http://genderdreaming.com/forum/gend...pink-blue.html

[atomic sagebrush]

I'm not a dream member. We did fr with our two boys. I want to avoid that. I had 3 girl with my ex and I don't think he released, at least not like dh does! LOL (I know, tmi). Plus I remember seeing the post that 90% of couples swaying pink end up with girls and they're the ones doing FR. Anyway, just want to do it different when we try. This is THE last baby (ds2 was going to be, but I really want to give dh a girl of his own.

I chart cm and temps, but mostly just cm for now as I'm bfing and haven't gotten my 1st PP af. I usually chart temps, sometimes I'll do saliva ferning, the fertility monitor, sometimes I'll do cervical pos (but that's really inaccurate for me. Its usually opposite from what its "supposed" to be.)

I don't have pcos, but I do have estrogen dominance. ED sways blue, right? I need to get my estrogen down buti'm not sure how without risking screwing up O. (Like using natural progesterone cream before O...) any other suggestions there?

Well, I think you need to reread that thread (the version that's on this site) because 90% of couples swaying pink doing FR DO NOT end up with baby BOYS (sorry that was a typo the first time thru!!). If you don't want to do FR, that's absolutely fine and your call to make, I just want you to have the accurate info and you're misinterpreting something that was misinterpreted by the person who posted it to begin with.

In order to get past the estrogen dominance, you may have to risk messing up O to some extent. You need to lower E and that can delay O. Don't use a prog cream before O, you'll really risk messing your cycle up doing that. you're supposed to have low prog. before O.

[LacePrincess]

Well, I think you need to reread that thread (the version that's on this site) because 90% of couples swaying pink doing FR DO NOT end up with baby girls.

Thanks for linking those great essays again, Atomic. I'd forgotten just how much info there was in those!

I am confused (and I'm sure I can't be the only one) by the statement here though......I'm sure you don't mean 90% swaying pink with FR end up with boys, right? Do you mean, rather, that doing FR doesn't guarantee girl 90% of the time? (As in, frequency isn't a huge sway factor.)

[mydream]

I am confused (and I'm sure I can't be the only one) by the statement here though......I'm sure you don't mean 90% swaying pink with FR end up with boys, right? Do you mean, rather, that doing FR doesn't guarantee girl 90% of the time? (As in, frequency isn't a huge sway factor.)

confused too....we did FR and like 3 attempts- now preg with dd...

[afy]

Afy, for boy frequency you'd ideally want to bd every other day from the first High day until your monitor reads Low again. You wouldn't want to wait for a one-shot attempt for boy, as abstinence reduces sperm count and the health of the sample. Every other day is ideal as it ensures lots of healthy sperm up there for the egg, and DH has plenty of time to recharge in between attempts.

so roughly how many times would we BD around 4? and what about when i get a PEAK reading in the morning would it be a good idea to do it that evening, the next morning after that too??

Lace princess i read your bit about CBFM im so confused now you said that it had missed the First day of your LH surge and showed you PEAK day the day after.. incase that does happen when would be the best time to BD?

I havent yet opened the CBFM i wasnt sure if the CB Opks are better to use?

[LacePrincess]

so roughly how many times would we BD around 4? and what about when i get a PEAK reading in the morning would it be a good idea to do it that evening, the next morning after that too??

Lace princess i read your bit about CBFM im so confused now you said that it had missed the First day of your LH surge and showed you PEAK day the day after.. incase that does happen when would be the best time to BD?

I havent yet opened the CBFM i wasnt sure if the CB Opks are better to use?

Well for general ideal conception chances you want to BD as many attempts as you can in the ideal fertile window. That is, O-2 (two days before ov), O-1, O, and O+1.

The CBFM missed the beginning of my LH surge because the CBFM asks for FMU (first morning urine). FMU is not ideal to pick up LH with because LH surges in your urine between 10am-8pm. But, I knew I surged because I picked up the beginning of the LH surge with my OPK, so my monitor picked it up the NEXT morning. Thus, the CBFM only found my LH surge at the tail end of the surge. Remember, the CBFM is programmed to stop asking for sticks as soon as it detects your LH surge, and automatically shows you two peak days followed by one high day.

My point was to always BD on the first peak day and never assume that you are still fertile by the second peak day on the CBFM, because the second peak day might not always be accurate. And you'd never know it until your BBT confirmed ovulation, at which point it would be too late to BD again for that cycle.

In a nutshell, for best chance you want to BD on every peak day and one more to be safe. And keep the CBFM, the sticks are MUCH cheaper than the digital CB OPK's. But you might want to order some IC (internet cheapie) OPK's too as another way of confirming ov.

[afy]

Thank you so much lace Princess your a star.. Really made things clear I understand what you mean
I definitely will invest in some IC opks so I can use them prior to when I think I will ovulate just incase the cbfm doesn't ask for my Urine sample as you said it automatically stops asking for anymore sticks once it receives a peak.. So that' really means we can't tell when the LH surge has begun or coming to an end..

Which Cheap opks would you recommend I don't want them to be too cheap either and not be reliable lol

Ps do the opks tell you day before your ovulating? I know the CBFM shows high fertility day but sometimes your not sure when it shows PEAK days.. I'm abit wary of attempting to BD on the day which I think might be O-1 before I ovulate when it isn't lol

[LacePrincess]

You're very welcome! I was posting really late last night and wasn't sure if I was being really confusing, LOL.

I get my IC sticks here: Early Pregnancy Tests and Ovulation Predictor Kits for Home Use

I paid $35 last month for a pack of 50 OPK's and 15 HPT's. Free shipping in US/Canada. The tests have been fine, I've never had any false results. You do need to pee in a cup and dip to use the cheapie sticks. As far as I know, all IC's are pretty much the same in terms of reliability.

OPK's read the LH surge. All they can tell you is that your LH has gotten high enough to cross the 'positive' threshold of the OPK, that's all. It can't tell you for sure when, or even if, you will Ov. There is such a thing as a false LH surge. Usually, though, your egg will pop anywhere from 12-36 hours after the FIRST +OPK. This is important, as, you can have many days of +OPK, but it does *not* mean you haven't ov'ed, and also doesn't mean you are still fertile. Some people have longer lasting LH surges is all, but the time to ov is measured from the beginning of the LH surge.

It's just not that exact a science. Without an ultrasound machine, you can't measure exactly when the egg drops at home. So the best you can do is bd often as soon as you see a +OPK, and bd until you see a BBT thermal shift and know that you've ov'ed. There's no way of knowing whether you o'ed 12 hours from your first +OPK, or 36, or 48, etc. And to add to that, it can change from month to month in the same woman. So you see how it just isn't possible to time things with any sort of precision, which is why O+12 doesn't work.

Some ladies are lucky and can feel ov, so they know! I've never ever had Ov pains. I can usually tell if I've ov'ed by the day after O because of CM dry up and CP closing up though.

[afy]

Thanks.. So if we were to have longer lasting LH surge should we still do as many BD attempts as we can once we read the +opk? I see what you mean that's why I think I'm going to find this the hardest but maybe it might not be unless I have a pretty regular cycle and ovulation .. Just hope I don't do anything to minimize my chances of sway for a boy..