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    Hi Cass, so you think you will get you +opt tomorrow? You can wait until you see the + then go for it.

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    I usually only get a +OPK for one day but I have also only tracked my cycles whilst on EPO. I usually get lots of EWCM around O but don't have any at the moment. I have been taking Robitussin for the last three days.

    Grrr, this is frustrating!

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    Its all good, you should get more closer to O day hang in there

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blueplease View Post
    Hi all. Im also swaying blue and gearing up for my attempt. I'm currently on cd6. Diet all going ok but so sick of eating. Supps all as recommended in my plan. Started my coconut blitz today.. It's horrid!! Wheatgrass tablets started last weekend and taking around 5 a day. Lots of lemon water and a glass or two of v8 a day with 2 towable spoons of brewers yeast in one . Not had any gelatin.?? Is this really good for raising tester one.

    Took my ph on cd4.. It was 4.7 although as assures me it would be low on this day . Got pressed and am using that daily. Have started weights in house but just bn so busy!!
    The one thing I'm really concerned about us my tester one levels.. What else can I do now in the next 6-7 days to increase this drastically. I just feel that this is what will let me down. Got the red chesty cough robusstin. Starting that tomorrow roughly 5 days before ovulation!! Feel so overwhelmed and am sure I'm on the verge if getting fired at work. Good luck everyone!
    Blueplease,
    I just found this from Atromic :
    foods that raise testosterone naturally
    Here's a quick reference to which foods raise testosterone and why!

    Foods rich in cholesterol - Cholesterol - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Eggs, butter, lard, full-fat dairy, fatty meats, poultry skins...Cholesterol is the building block from which all your hormones are made. Testosterone and estrogen are not really supplied to your body by being eaten themselves; rather, your body manufactures them from the foods you eat. So keeping your body supplied with cholesterol will ensure that it has enough on hand to manufacture testosterone and estrogen.

    Foods rich in saturated fat - Saturated fat - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia In addition to the foods in the cholesterol group above, ANY foods rich in saturated fat will help boost your supply of testosterone and estrogen, even if it has no cholesterol. There are some plant-based saturated fats like coconut oil, dark chocolate, and palm oil that are high in saturated fat but contain no cholesterol. (only animal products have cholesterol.) Saturated fats from these sources help your body to make its own cholesterol. 30% or more of your calories should come from fat.

    Foods rich in healthy fats - Polyunsaturated fat - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Monounsaturated fat - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Fish, avocado, nuts, seeds,olive oil, oatmeal, whole wheat, meats, eggs, and full-fat dairy. Interestingly, there are a lot of healthy fats occuring alongside the cholesterol and saturated fats in animal products! This group causes some confusion for people because eating a lot of healthy fat can actually LOWER blood cholesterol levels, but it does so in such a way that your body is still able to produce ample amounts of testosterone and estrogen. Research has shown that men who ate the most healthy fats had the highest levels of testosterone. 30% or more of your calories should come from fat.

    Foods rich in Vitamin D - Full-fat dairy is the best source of Vit. D. Vit. D has been proven (more than most things in swaying!!) to dramatically raise testosterone. If you're scared of taking Vit. D or drinking dairy products because they are traditional pink swaying tactics, simply go outside and sunbathe for an hour a day.

    Foods high in protein - Protein is a building block for muscle, and the more muscle you have, the more testosterone your body produces. So if you increase your protein intake, esp. while following an exercise program that builds muscle, you will be "telling" your body that you "need" it to make more testosterone.

    Healthy, nutrient rich carbs - Protein eaten ALONE is not enough to build muscle. Your body needs carbohydrates as well. In fact, a high protein, low carb diet like Atkins actually was shown to LOWER testosterone production in at least one study. If possible, try to focus on carbs that contain some healthy fats in them - whole grain breads, oatmeal (oats contain a chemical that is proven to raise testosterone), and of course lots of colorful fruits and vegetables. Garlic contains a compound in it that has been shown to raise testosterone and makes a great addition to any meal. Remember, protein + carbs = boys, for both blood glucose and for testosterone!!!

    Foods rich in Vit. A - Like Vit. D above, Vit. A is a fat soluble vitamin that has been shown to raise testosterone. DO NOT take large doses of Vit A supplements, Vit. A through diet is what you are after. Vit. A supplements can KILL you or give your baby birth defects. Carrots, tomatoes, any brightly colored orange fruits and veg will have ample amounts of Vitamin A. Meats and dairy foods also have good amounts of Vitamin A present in them.

    A few things to be aware of:

    Broccoli, cauliflower, cabbage (also called cruciferous vegetables) contain a chemical that has been shown to raise testosterone but may do so at the expense of estrogen. We want things that will boost BOTH our testosterone and our estrogen. Eating a cruciferous veggie here and there will not affect you negatively, but there is a supplement based on this chemical called DIM which we may want to stay away from.

    Lignans and other phytoestrogens, which are chemicals that may mimic estrogen in such a way that it represses testosterone production and/or competes with the body's natural estrogens, may not be the best way to go to raise T levels. A lot of swayers believe phytoestrogens sway blue and we honestly don't have enough info to know for certain, so I'm just sharing this and then y'all can decide for yourselves what makes the most sense. Flax, soy, sesame seed, and the brans of various cereal products all contain lignans/phytoestrogens.Lignan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia http://lpi.oregonstate.edu/infocente...icals/lignans/
    Phytoestrogens - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    http://lpi.oregonstate.edu/infocente...micals/soyiso/

    Fiber - LARGE amounts of fiber can absorb and sweep fats out of the digestive tract. (This is why pink swayers are taking fiber supps). This doesn't mean you should switch to refined white breads and skip vegetables...fiber in dietary amounts probably does not affect fat absorption very much at all. Don't take fiber supps if you're swaying blue.

    Quick list of foods that will raise your T levels!!

    Full-fat dairy (whole milk, cheese, ice cream, yogurt)
    Poultry (choose fattier varieties like dark meat and skin)
    Meat (choose fattier, well-marbled cuts)
    Animal-based cooking fats (lard, butter, ghee, bacon grease, schmaltz)
    Eggs (eat at least 2 a day and 4-6 a day if you are a vegetarian)
    Nuts (almonds, walnuts, cashews, peanuts)
    Seeds (pumpkin seeds, sunflower, sesame seeds)
    Olive oil and other plant-based oils like nut oils, palm oil, coconut oil
    Fatty fish (salmon, sardines, tuna)
    Gelatin (in Jello desserts, consomme, aspic, or taken as a supplement)
    Orange and dark green fruits and vegetables (carrots, tomatoes, swiss chard, winter squash, apricots, V-8 juice)
    Garlic
    Oatmeal
    Whole Wheat Bread


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    Cinss - you think I should wait until tomorrow to see what the OPK says then?

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    Cass idealy you would want to attempt the day before O, then 2 more times within 24 hours. So do you know if you O on the day of your + or the day after?

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    Sorry if I seem a bit slow but this charting thing is new to me!

    I usually get a positive OPK then three temperature rises the following three days. FF says I O on the day following positive OPK. But like I said, I have been on EPO for the months prior to this and that is the only time I have charted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by becca View Post
    Wow, you are doing great on the T front! I need to work on the weights and gelatin. Good luck! Did your AF arrive? I'm getting so anxious!!
    Oh I don't know becca. I'm like a mexican hairless...hee hee. I am definately hitting the Gelatin and weights (also bashing the daylights out of my husbands boxing bag twice a week). I think I have low T naturally and am not seeing any differences despite my best attempts diet wise. I really hope the jump up in a fortnight when it counts. No AF yet but am kind of hoping they don't arrive until Sunday. That means I'll probably ovulate under Libran Moon which is boy sign and before you all jump in and say it's irrelevant (which deep down I kinda think it is) I have checked all my girls conceptions and they were all under girl moon signs. Given I am doing everything opposite/differently, I just want to ovulate under a boy moon this time.
    Funnily enough we were watching a rerun of How I met your Mother last night and Marshall was dropping his boy bits in ice water and eating pickled herrings in secret (TV boy sway theory) and Lily was sucking lemons (TV girl sway theory). Subsequently because I have been drinking so much lemon water, my husband has had a good laugh pretending to accuse me of trying to sway for girl 4!!! I told him if he really believes that he can drop his boy bits in ice water every night!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cass View Post
    Sorry if I seem a bit slow but this charting thing is new to me!

    I usually get a positive OPK then three temperature rises the following three days. FF says I O on the day following positive OPK. But like I said, I have been on EPO for the months prior to this and that is the only time I have charted.
    Well that is good then, as soon as you see the + you should start your attempts and try for 3. Fingers crossed coming off the epo isnt going to muck you around too much.

  10. #190
    Cinss - you think we should attempt even though we DTD yesterday or just attempt tomorrow? Sorry to go on about this but I have my husband asking me this over and over again! (nice that he is in to the sway thing too though

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