November 2WW

[meeks32]

meeks- I too have pigged out during this 2ww and plan on getting back on the LE when af shows. I will not be ttc in Dec, but will be on le, vitex, and doing mega cardio. Have you had any signs of increased T? If not I wouldn't worry about this slip up. Also maybe the next few days tests will make the whole thing irrelevant- still wishing you a bfp.
thorz- December is your month. Looking forward to hearing a bfp for you.

Hmmm well I've been extremely emotional and very grumpy and quick to snap, far more than usual. Unfortunately that doesn't tell me much other than it could be stress, the diet taking its toll, af on her way or pregnancy (I knew I was pg with ds2 because I was inexplicably angry with dh for like an week, so so angry, and he had done nothing, then I felt nauseous and was like "hang on"... Sure enough I was).

[strawberrymom]

Really does seem like everything is a symptom of everything else. I hope I didn't stress you out more. You have been disciplined on the diet and I'm sure you are fine. I am going through an unimaginable horrible day today and just trying to keep my mind off things by posting on here, so sorry if I'm being negative and all.

[Boymomsrock]

I really haven't been on the diet at all after thanksgiving do a good week and a half. The only thing in my favor is I haven't been eating as much I'm general. I know I need to start again I just dont want to! Lol!

[fish2012]

hey all

so bfn again this morning, i feel lik have morning sickness fairly much all day ;-S is this ven possible if you havn't got a positive test?! i guess time will tell ;-0

[Thorz300]

I was taking December off because I was worried about doing the diet in December, and worried the antibiotics I took in the November 2ww would sway boy for me if I did try in December. But now I feel like the less time I take off the diet the better. Otherwise 4 months of LE diet perfection are kind of for nothing.

But I've had a bad 2ww for diet so I'm worried about getting back on it.

Now my plan for December is to try, but I won't start the diet again until af shows.

My bbt at lunchtime (before I ate or drank) was the highest ever, but this mornings was way low as if af was coming. Occasionally I take my bbt at lunchtime just to see the difference and I find I usually run colder during the day than I do after 3+hrs sleep, one time I was around the same. This time I took it and it was 36.87! And I hadn't been doing anything. I know it's not reliable in waking hours but I'm trying to cling at straws!

See we are about to be going into summer here now, and I have had 2 winter babies, so conceiving this month would mean an end of winter baby, and month after this gets me closer to the warmer spring weather. Lucky for me that works. But I don't really care about the winter summer thing, just want a bub, and I'll take any gender and cherish him or her, but girl would be so amazing after 2 boys.

You are probably right, I shouldn't care if the baby's birthday is in the winter, but all 5 of us so far have winter birthdays and that is a lot going on in one half of the year. I get seasonal depression, I absolutely HATE the cold and gloomy weather, maybe it is a good thing to have everyone's birthday in the winter to give me something to brighten up the gloomy season. It is just really hard not being able to have birthday parties outside ever! Another reason, and I know this may sound dumb to some, is that the chinese gender chart (the real one that calculates the mothers lunar age and the lunar month) Says girl for Nov and Dec but after that it is boy for awhile. I believe this chart because it has been right with all 3 of my DS and my sisters 4DD and my other sisters DS and DD. I don't know, I wonder if I might have lost too much weight to get pregnant. I am 5'5" and 100 lbs so my bmi is 16.6 so I don't know how to do this diet without losing more weight. I feel like the rephresh is killing things too. So I might just do a really light sway and just cut out as much sodium as possible, and no meat (I don't like red meat anyway) and still skip breakfast. I don't do temps but I think I might start this cycle it just seems like so much work! I think this cycle I really just want to relax, I was too uptight last time.

How many DPO are you now? Good luck, I'll keep my fingers crossed for you!

[fish2012]

oh dunno ds2 was a summer baby and it was so much nicer than a winter bubba found it much easier but then he was an easier bubba!

[fish2012]

I was taking December off because I was worried about doing the diet in December, and worried the antibiotics I took in the November 2ww would sway boy for me if I did try in December. But now I feel like the less time I take off the diet the better. Otherwise 4 months of LE diet perfection are kind of for nothing.

But I've had a bad 2ww for diet so I'm worried about getting back on it.

Now my plan for December is to try, but I won't start the diet again until af shows.

My bbt at lunchtime (before I ate or drank) was the highest ever, but this mornings was way low as if af was coming. Occasionally I take my bbt at lunchtime just to see the difference and I find I usually run colder during the day than I do after 3+hrs sleep, one time I was around the same. This time I took it and it was 36.87! And I hadn't been doing anything. I know it's not reliable in waking hours but I'm trying to cling at straws!

See we are about to be going into summer here now, and I have had 2 winter babies, so conceiving this month would mean an end of winter baby, and month after this gets me closer to the warmer spring weather. Lucky for me that works. But I don't really care about the winter summer thing, just want a bub, and I'll take any gender and cherish him or her, but girl would be so amazing after 2 boys.

hey hun know how you feel i've been on the diet since april! wondered about taking decemeber off buy really not sure i'll ever start again i'm just gonna do my best and hope i can do enough! diet at moment is awful trying to eat to see if makes me feel less sick ;-S

for some nice bfps on here again soon x

[Thorz300]

hey all

so bfn again this morning, i feel lik have morning sickness fairly much all day ;-S is this ven possible if you havn't got a positive test?! i guess time will tell ;-0

Sorry hun, how many dpo are you again??? It is hard to remember everyones dpo.

[meeks32]

You are probably right, I shouldn't care if the baby's birthday is in the winter, but all 5 of us so far have winter birthdays and that is a lot going on in one half of the year. I get seasonal depression, I absolutely HATE the cold and gloomy weather, maybe it is a good thing to have everyone's birthday in the winter to give me something to brighten up the gloomy season. It is just really hard not being able to have birthday parties outside ever! Another reason, and I know this may sound dumb to some, is that the chinese gender chart (the real one that calculates the mothers lunar age and the lunar month) Says girl for Nov and Dec but after that it is boy for awhile. I believe this chart because it has been right with all 3 of my DS and my sisters 4DD and my other sisters DS and DD. I don't know, I wonder if I might have lost too much weight to get pregnant. I am 5'5" and 100 lbs so my bmi is 16.6 so I don't know how to do this diet without losing more weight. I feel like the rephresh is killing things too. So I might just do a really light sway and just cut out as much sodium as possible, and no meat (I don't like red meat anyway) and still skip breakfast. I don't do temps but I think I might start this cycle it just seems like so much work! I think this cycle I really just want to relax, I was too uptight last time.

How many DPO are you now? Good luck, I'll keep my fingers crossed for you!

Thorn 16.6 is too low, I think your plan for this month is good, and given your weight I agree with taking the few months off. I also completely get the winter baby thing, I hated having a newborn I couldn't take outside, and totally agree on the birthdays in winter thing. I feel almost guilty that this next nub will most likely be a spring or summer one, and the only person in the family that can have an outside party! Lol I know those things seem trivial but they do matter to some extent.

I'm with you on the december sway, light is the way to go. I haven't used rephresh as I don't know where to get it I'm Australia and it seems like a lot of ladies have trouble conceiving on I, so don't feel bad about dropping that.

Chinese calendar is one I struggle with. Knowing all we know about diet, leaving the calendar aside, do you think you would have boys anyway? In my case I think I had boys from my diet, frequency and supps, but I do feel better when I'm TTC on a month where the calendar says girl. I would point out however that if the Chinese had it right with that calendar alone, they would be obviously having boys, which historically were in demand in China and many families desired. I don't think their gender ratio is that different to ours, therefore I doubt it makes any difference (but totally worry about it too).

Hugs hon

[meeks32]

I really haven't been on the diet at all after thanksgiving do a good week and a half. The only thing in my favor is I haven't been eating as much I'm general. I know I need to start again I just dont want to! Lol!

Oh man this is me, except I've been eating tons more!!! The past 2 tays I toned it down but can't quite get myself on the diet again properly. I just don't want to! When af arrives I am hoping that motivates me.

Kind of dreading seeing the gp about clomid, I don't want extra tests and things, its a big fat hassle. That's so lazy of me but December is so busy. Then again i'll feel guilty if I don't and keep having 10 day luteal phases... Grr this months sway was so damn perfect and we won't manage fr again, so it will be back to abstain, which reduces chances of pg anyway.

Sigh.

Temp drop again today, can't convince myself it's a mistake this time...