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    Wishing, you HAVE to hit 1200 calories. You're very tiny already and you need to be careful - trust me you don't want to lose your ovulation. I'm also only 5 feet tall, started the LE diet at around 107lbs and had to gain a tad because I started to see my ovulation go right off the rails.

    Being so slim you need to aim to maintain - please don't lose any weight. It is still LE diet if you maintain but keep blood sugars low. And yes, your previous grazing is definitely boy friendly, but otoh if you have existing hypoglycemic issues you need to work with that too.

    Don't even worry about 'nutrients' in veggies. Seriously. You have to eat a metric tonne of broccoli and even then it wouldn't sway as much as having red meat all the time. If you're eating more veggies now then when you had boys, you're already swaying and there is no need to go to extremes. More strict on the LE diet is not better at ALL.

    If you find you can't tolerate sweets, then at least up the empty carbs. I do understand that protein is awfully hard to stick to. You can allow yourself a little higher, up to 50-60grams of protein a day, and that might make it easier and stil be LE friendly. I also have eggs a few times a week, it's hearty but not meat and it's fine for the LE diet.

    Anyways, you might find that you can't tolerate going too harsh on the LE diet because of your blood sugar issues, and that's ok! You've got to work with what you can manage. But at the very least please make sure you're hitting 1200 especially at your low weight.
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    I'm not trying to sound stuck up or anything..but i was on the LE diet for 8 months...very strict, towards the end, where i just ate Rice and bland sauteed , cooked down w/ water peeled zucchini. I ovulated each month..didn't affect my cycles at all and I got pregnant the first time I decided to TTC (unfortunately had a m/c at 5wks). I know exactly what you mean, though..I appreciate your concern. Just saying that by eating more carbs like bread and rice I get moody. when i add avocados and eat lettuce and cheese i feel better..milk does not help me at all..it's the worse thing..my body doesn't tolerate it. I guess I can start with 1500 cals mostly veggies ..as I get closer to my attempt, I can aim for 1200.
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    Msblakely, I like your diet! and I have seen many other ladies w/ similar diet,w/ few things different like adding a yoplait yogurt instead of cheese..but really doesnt make such a big difference..as long as we watch protein and fat intake .

    I mean if you don't have much time to be on the diet, then it makes sense to 'sort of' starve yourself..lower your cals even more, b/c youré on a compressed time frame.3 wks on the diet isn't recommended, but if u dont have much weight lose, but in a hurry to get pregnant and trying to send a signal to your body that times are tough, then sudden and drastic change IMO is good..specially around ovulation, I have seen ladies go even lower around ovulation, like having one meal a day. they got their girls that way..

    the diet didn't do anything to my cycles or ovulation..even though I was on it for 8 months. I was still fertile mertile. haha..so it really depends on your body.

    yum, the mashed cauliflower sounds good!! will give it a try some time. ohh, what is the cinnamon spread?. where can I find it?
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    Yes you will have mood affects on the LE diet. Unfortunately, that's the nature of the beast. If you've seen my anxiety/LE diet threads that I've started the past few months, I have been having a very difficult time on the LE diet with regards to the effect on mood.

    The very nature and purpose of the LE diet is to overconsume simple sugars and to deliberately crash your blood sugars and maintain low blood sugar. The crappy side effect of this? You will tend to feel like sh!t. And if you're like me and have a history of depression/anxiety, the diet triggers the mood disorder and makes it worse. That's just what it is.

    By levelling out with fats/proteins, it'll make you feel better mood wise but then you sacrifice the whole point of the LE diet. Avocados, btw, are very blue friendly. Yes it's a fruit but it's also chock full of healthy fats so you can't have it regularly.

    Anyways, do what works for you, and we're all different. Just make sure you count everything and make sure you're eating enough! You canNOT go under 1200 at a bare minimum. It's fine if you can get there with veggies, but I honestly can't see how you can primarily have low carb veg and still hit 1200 without raising the grain/starches. Just make sure you're not sacrificing your health for the sake of the sway.
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    early m/c Jan 2013

    Cycle #1 @ HRC (Oct 2014) - 6 retrieved, 4 mature, 3 fertilized and biopsied. 1XX and 1XY abnormal. 1XX no DNA found, rebiopsied and found normal, frozen.
    FET attempt #1 (Nov 2014) - cancelled due to functional cyst. FET attempt #2 (Jan 30, 2015) - NT. Remaining embie failed to thaw.

    May 2015 - started infertility treatments at OFC. Femara 2.5mg
    July 2015 - BFP after second round of Femara. Aug 4 2015 - 6w4d
    Dec 21 2015 - mmc 7w1d

    Apr 2016 - IVF Cycle #2. Converted to IUI because of uneven response and leading follicles.
    Apr 19, 2016 - IUI with 3 mature follicles (2 right, 1 left), post wash: 17mil, 94% motility and 89% rapid motility. BFN.

    June 3, 2016 - 5mg Femara cycle. 5w.
    Sep 1, 2016 - 5mg Femara cycle. 8w.

    Our rainbow baby girl arrived on Mon Aug 28, 2017 - "After every storm comes a rainbow". We are so thankful and grateful for every moment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wishing4Princess View Post
    so I need advice on my diet. just wanted to mention that I will be TTC again in a couple months, after a 5wk M/C. I am also very fertile, since I conceived all 3 babies w/ 1st month TTC.

    I was on LE diet for 8 months prior to this last pregnancy, and the last month of being on LE..my diet consisted of:

    No breakfast
    Lunch: white rice w/ zucchini (1 cup)
    Dinner: white rice w/ zucchini (1cup) and a small iceberg and cuke salad

    I was starving every day and was superrrr agitated all the time. my biggest prob was that I was always so angry and had major anxiety.

    This time I am planning on staying vegetarian, mainly living on salads as such:

    No brkfast
    Lunch: 3cups shredded iceberg lettuce, 1 tbsp parmesan cheese, 1 tbsp dried cranberries
    Dinner: will have the same as lunch, but would like to add a 1/2 cup cooked pasta or 1 cup plain white rice, w/ 1tbsp butter

    This would totally help me stay full for a longer time. what do you ladies think??

    I know it's not much of a difference..just increasing my portions. if I wanted to stick to a 1500 cal diet...would this be too much fat or protein, is there room for me to increase the parm and butter? thanks.
    That is NOT LE DIET. That is starvation. Even your new diet is not good enough. You MUST get 1200 cals a day minimum and I very very very much prefer that people eat 1500-1800 cals a day. You need 40-50 g protein a day and 25 grams of fat MINIMUM.

    Also, you MUST get 700-1000 mg sodium and 2500-3500 mg potassium or you RISK DEATH. You can seriously DIE from not getting enough sodium and potassium.

    Low carb vegetables are free foods meaning you can have as much as you want without even having to count calories. Zucchini, iceberg lettuce are free and unlimited.

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    Thanks Lace and Atomic, I totally understand what you are saying. I am totally upping my calories. thank you!
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    Quote Originally Posted by atomic sagebrush View Post
    That is NOT LE DIET. That is starvation. Even your new diet is not good enough. You MUST get 1200 cals a day minimum and I very very very much prefer that people eat 1500-1800 cals a day. You need 40-50 g protein a day and 25 grams of fat MINIMUM.

    Also, you MUST get 700-1000 mg sodium and 2500-3500 mg potassium or you RISK DEATH. You can seriously DIE from not getting enough sodium and potassium.

    Low carb vegetables are free foods meaning you can have as much as you want without even having to count calories. Zucchini, iceberg lettuce are free and unlimited.

    Here is the link to the short version of the LE Diet. http://genderdreaming.com/forum/tryi...l-version.html
    Atomic, I am 5'1" and weigh 100 lbs. I think 1200 calories would better for me. 1500 is too much..I don't even have much of an appetite.
    So for 1200 calories, what is the max grams for protein and fat?? still 40-50grams protein and 25grams fat? or is it a different amount? Thanks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wishing4Princess View Post
    wow, really?? I thought that if i ate any more than that, I would be following a boy diet..i am confused. well the other thing is that i'm not that hungry any more..i mean my appetite has gone down alot, since I went on the LE diet.

    could you modify my diet w/ this the list that I have here (just having 2 meals/day) i'm confused about portions:

    -dried cranberries
    -shredded parmesan cheese
    -iceberg lettuce
    -pasta
    -white rice
    -green grapes
    -jack and cheddar cheese sticks


    that's all i'm into eating now a days. I mainly like salads and cheese.
    You don't need to limit yourself to those foods. I am not sure where exactly you're getting your info from but if it's from a thread anywhere on this site let me know because I need to fix it. LE Diet is not just about limiting yourself, it's also about making sure you get enough food for your health and to sustain a healthy pregnancy.

    If you DO want to limit yourself, then you need to be eating more of the foods, not tiny portions. You can also still eat 3 meals a day, you don't have to eat just 2 meals if you don't want to. Some people do better eating bigger meals 2x a day and others do better with smaller meals 3x a day, so if you can't eat that much at one sitting, you need to start eating 3 meals a day. Just push breakfast to 11, then eat in the afternoon and again in the evening.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wishing4Princess View Post
    Atomic, I am 5'1" and weigh 100 lbs. I think 1200 calories would better for me. 1500 is too much..I don't even have much of an appetite.
    So for 1200 calories, what is the max grams for protein and fat?? still 40-50grams protein and 25grams fat? or is it a different amount? Thanks!
    Yes, still 40-50 g protein and 25 g fat. That is a minimum requirement to sustain your ovulation and have a healthy pregnancy.

    When your body feels like it's starving, it shuts down hunger so you are able to somewhat still function in times of famine. That is NOT a good thing. You need to force yourself to eat more until your appetite returns to normal.
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    OMG, Atomic! I really was putting myself in deprivation!! that's crazy. I thought 40 grams of protein and 25 of fat is just for 1500 calories..now that I think back, my sway had to have been a damn good one!. I am still confused about one thing, how in the heck did I ovulate each month, w/ so little food consumption?! I ovulated each month and conceived 1st month I went for an attempt.

    Anyway, thanks for clearing that up for me!
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