what is the BEST way to lower testosterone?

[harleyquinn]

Hi there~

You cannot do the tea and the pills together~I have no idea why but thats the advice handed out here. All in all, it is a smart move to take Vitex and SP OR Vitex and the tea.

What do you mean by "certain times"?

[Cauliflower]

Peppermint tea only 2 cups a day, really messed up my cycle, AF dealyed by 18 days!!!!
I am going to use BCP anti androgenic type and was thiking abt using pep tea in that period and not after going off BCP. That way it wont affect AF? or would it? That should lower testosterone.
And I also read somwhere that SP will not give higher estrogen but PEP tea would? if so, maybe SP is better choice....

[1adorablebabyboymom]

like af to o or o to af--not sure but have heard stuff like that on here....ok! I am soooo glad I asked! So, no tea if doing the pills! What in your opinion is the best combo for someone who does not want to mess up a good thing with regular cycles? Vitex and SP or Vitex and tea? And, should DH not do tea with LR, just LR? Sorry for all the questions! =( Thanks!!

Hi there~

You cannot do the tea and the pills together~I have no idea why but thats the advice handed out here. All in all, it is a smart move to take Vitex and SP OR Vitex and the tea.

What do you mean by "certain times"?

[atomic sagebrush]

Would it be smart, or not so smart, to take saw palmetto, vitex, and peppermint tea all as part of my sway? I have very regular 28 day cycles, and I don't want to mess myself up, or would that probably be just fine? thanks! or , maybe there are certain times to take certain ones?

No, you can't take pep tea and saw palmetto together.

Unfortunately, Vitex and Saw palmetto (and pep tea as well) are notorious for messing up people's cycles. I do think that they sway pink and that it may be that the messing with cycles is part of how they work or a side effect of how they work. If you don't want to deal with a wacky cycle, then don't take any of the three.

[atomic sagebrush]

Hi there~

You cannot do the tea and the pills together~I have no idea why but thats the advice handed out here. All in all, it is a smart move to take Vitex and SP OR Vitex and the tea.

What do you mean by "certain times"?

The way that the SP and pep tea affect estrogen and testosterone conflicts so it ends up not working

[atomic sagebrush]

Peppermint tea only 2 cups a day, really messed up my cycle, AF dealyed by 18 days!!!!
I am going to use BCP anti androgenic type and was thiking abt using pep tea in that period and not after going off BCP. That way it wont affect AF? or would it? That should lower testosterone.
And I also read somwhere that SP will not give higher estrogen but PEP tea would? if so, maybe SP is better choice....

I would not do the pep tea with your BCP unless you are also using a barrier method of birth control (condom, diaphragm, sponge). Saw palmetto can make BCP not work and so I would assume that pep tea may be able to do the same thing. (BTW, that also makes me suspect that the pep tea may interfere with how the BCP sways or vice versa - my gut instinct says not to do it.)

I agree I think SP is vastly superior to pep tea. I'm not convinced that the pep tea is as safe as the SP, either.

[atomic sagebrush]

like af to o or o to af--not sure but have heard stuff like that on here....ok! I am soooo glad I asked! So, no tea if doing the pills! What in your opinion is the best combo for someone who does not want to mess up a good thing with regular cycles? Vitex and SP or Vitex and tea? And, should DH not do tea with LR, just LR? Sorry for all the questions! =( Thanks!!

Taking V and SP/Pep tea from AF-a day before O can help, but it is still badly screwing with people's cycles. Again, the prob. is that may be part of how they sway or a side effect thereof, so while I promise we all can get girls without them, they are a good sway tactic and the nutty cycles may be worth it to some.

DH should not do both LR and pep tea. One or the other

[stephk]

I know this is an old thread but I came across it and it's made me a little worried. I've been drinking a 2 teabag cup of pep tea pretty much every day for a few months. Not totally religiously but since I returned to work a month ago, definitely mon-fri and maybe a day at the weekend. I thought this was an easy thing to incorporate that I enjoyed. I was planning to increase this to 3 teabags in another month. What I didn't realise was the potential for messing up cycles and BCP. I have read into all this too, I must have missed something. Anyway I'm on BCP and don't normally bleed unless I'm on the usual 7 day break but I started bleeding a little yesterday. It's not enough to warrant a tampax, just a small pantyliner (sorry TMI) but I did wonder what was going on. Luckily enough I can't remember the last time we BD so no chance of an oops. Should I stop drinking the pep tea?

Atomic - I know this might be covered in my sway plan but thought I would post anyway. If nothing else, the answer might be useful to others. Thank you.

[stephk]

Hmmm seems I'm having full blown AF!! My next 7 day break from BCP is coming up this weekend so it could be 2 joyous weeks of this. Oh well. I went back to the essay in SP, pep tea etc as I knew I had read it before. And I remember thinking which to do, but I think at that time I took away that pep tea did less than SP and as I liked pep tea, it was no problem to drink everyday. Anyway I clearly didn't pay proper attention to what I was reading as I would have probably not done any of it. I can be a muppet at times lol.

Atomic I'll wait for the sway plan for your advice but in the meantime I won't drink pep tea today....

[atomic sagebrush]

I think saw palmetto works better than the pep tea, you'll need to come off BCP for TTC anyway so I would use the saw palmetto. That I did include in your sway plan. But if you like the pep tea better, sub that instead of the SP.

Thank you for letting me know about your bleeding, that is useful info to me because lots of people ask me, "well have you actually SEEN this happen" and while I can say I read about it, it is good info for me to have that it does seem to affect BCP in a negative way.

I'm glad it's just AF coming and not a pos pg test!!! o.O