Having a really hard time giving up meat

[atomic sagebrush]

Except for Memorial day weekend I have not had red meat in a month. I have had some pork, but even that has been minimal.

I am having the hardest time not eating turkey. I just can't live on white carbs alone. I don't fill up and then I snack all day which I would think would be even worse.

Whenever I try to replace something for the turkey or chicken it is beans, which I am assuming we are not suppose to eat.

Argh! I hate this diet!!!!

I know! I'm so sorry! If I didn't believe in it 100% I wouldn't tell anyone to do it.

Beans are a better option than turkey or chicken.

Another thing you can try is just eating a bite of turkey at a meal and see if it helps at all.

[atomic sagebrush]

I would say eat the chicken or fish (no more than 4 1/2 ounces) to start and reduce from there. That is what I have been doing. I am down to about 2 1/2 ounces for chicken and now at dinner sometimes I will just have some white rice friend up with an egg and a little Parmigiano Reggiano with it too. I always take chitosan before my dinner (when I eat my fat).

I was thinking last night about my two friends that are vegetarians and they both have boys. I think losing weight is more important and low sodium and potassium. If you are not losing weight on all those carbs, then I would try to add a little more protein in the mix.

Just know that some vegetarians eat a LOT of protein!

I agree about the weight loss aspect, if you're losing weight and eating less cals, you're swaying pink.

[atomic sagebrush]

It is funny, when I look at people around me with girls, some of them fit the low nutrient diet to a T, but then others have done the complete opposite and have multiple girls.

I think I am going to make the chicken. I really want a DD, but I am not going to be able to keep this diet up for long so I would rather have meat now and cut it completely out the days leading up to ovulation. If I don't get pregnant by fall I don't think I am going to continue with this diet.

But remember, it's the FERTILITY aspect that sways. We do the diet to lower our fertility but if someone already HAS lowered fertility for other reasons, or their DH does, they can eat blue all day long (and in fact they may have to just to get pg at all).

I would much rather you ease up on the diet to a level you feel comfortable, than give it up all together. Eat a little chicken, just don't go overboard with it and ~try~ to stay within the 40 g of protein (so choose to eat more low-protein foods like salad along with your chicken.)

[atomic sagebrush]

I am beginning to feel it is the wait loss that makes the biggest difference. I was at a steady weight, but was not losing as when I got pregnant I was only 117 lbs. Now do I need to get lower then that before I conceive or is the weight loss I am on (almost 13 lbs now) good enough. Do I need to get down to 114?

I do think you should be at your lowest weight ever if at all possible.

[atomic sagebrush]

I still do some chicken....If I don't I find thats when I cheat....I do very low calories maybe 1200 per day and I am now losing weight slowly....I was 165 Jan 1st and now I am 135 so I hope the weight loss will help me get my girl....I think you will be find with a very small portion of chicken

Hey, at 1200 cals a day you ARE swaying pink!

GREAT weight loss!!!

[atomic sagebrush]

My best friend is all about meat. She has GGB.

There are 2 ladies here at work that are vegetarian. One of them has GG and the other has BB.

This is really tough....I dont know how i am gonna do this diet. It's hard especially when you're not cooking for only you. My meals work around what my LO will eat...he's my main focus....forget DH or me lol

You can always find tons of exceptions but the data indicates that vegetarians have significantly more girls.

[atomic sagebrush]

I was a vegeterian with DS1 and I think in some cases being vegeterian can be boy-friendly because when you do eat fish, you can end up having a very healthy, protein-rich diet (since you are more careful about eating healthy and getting your nutrients) with varieties of fruit, veggies, beans, nuts and fish, that´s what I ate + I was snacking all day fat, sugary things.

So if you eat a little chicken every now and then but eat low sodium, low fat, low cal, low nutrients I think your diet still sways pink a lot!

Exactly this! SOME vegetarians (in fact I would say many) are extremely careful to eat a very balanced and healthy diet with ample calories/protein and healthy fats.

[atomic sagebrush]

One of my sons best friend Adrian is a forth generation vegan (100% no meat or animal products)... they only eat fruits, veggies, beans, grains, and nuts. On the dad side there are only boys (I believe 8 total) and on the moms side she is the only girl but she was from a non vegan mom (odd ?) she has 6 halfbros. Sons Adrian friend is an only child for now but his mom is trying the sametimes as us because or cycles are the same. Adrian also has 16 cousins and 2 are girls (they were a FD sway many years ago) All the women in the family were either from vegan families or eating vegan for about 3 years before conceiving.

See this makes sense to me, because a family that has been vegan for a very long time would both be used to that style of diet so their bodies would not feel suddenly deprived of food, and they'd also tend to be very knowledgeable about planning meals.

My experience - living 5 min. from a 7th Day Adventist boarding school and being friendly with some of the teachers there - they have a lot more girls.

[kaseybaby]

I do think you should be at your lowest weight ever if at all possible.

I don't think that would be healthy at all. I didn't break a 100 lbs until I was 21. There is no way I can get down to 99 lbs, and I really don't want to. I looked like death when I was that small.

[atomic sagebrush]

I don't think that would be healthy at all. I didn't break a 100 lbs until I was 21. There is no way I can get down to 99 lbs, and I really don't want to. I looked like death when I was that small.

Ok, use your own judgement.

(PS - just to clarify, I don't mean your lowest weight ever in the history of your life, I mean the lowest weight you conceived at and some people may want to go below that.)