Super Soy for a girl or a boy!

[atomic sagebrush]

Hi Atomic Sagebrush
can you point me in the direction of the no no list! and why is red clover bad? thanks

What no-no list?? For what specifically?

Red clover is bad for the same reason soy isoflavones are bad, they have high levels of "phytoestrogens" in them that may conflict with your body's natural estrogen. Red clover has been shown in animal studies to cause infertility and it's also just generally bad for you.

[Coyleof7]

Hi - as I mentioned on a different post my GP has recommended giving SI a try to sway pink (think she enjoys the drama involved lol) as we tried Vitex (pink sway) last time and got my latest beautiful boy!! So - the Vitex didn't work. I've upped my calcium intake via food and pretty much cut out salt, but wasn't a fan of salty foods anyway. My question is - she hasn't explained how to take it?? I've got 50mg tablets (pure SI - no other supplements added) - so do I take one or two and how often? I notice if I take them early on, I'll increase the chance of multiples - which I want to avoid (got 5 - want 6...not 7 or more)? I don't take BC pill - always used natural family planning (all kids were planned - we know what we're doing lol) and don't take any other supplements. Just trying to have a baby girl after four boys!! My oldest of my 5 is a girl but I can't replicate the circumstances of her birth as I HAD been on BC for 6yrs prior due to tricky AF and I was underweight as all I ate was mac n cheese and drank Irn Bru (I wasn't very good at looking after myself) - after she was born the BC got scrapped and I started to eat properly due to BF and wanting to give her the best...habits stuck lol Sorry - I digressed a bit there - any advice on the SI?? cheers xx

[atomic sagebrush]

Well, the vitex may have worked, but if you go from 75% likely to have a boy, to 70% likely, that's still a heck of a lot of boys. people view swaying like it's a switch that gets flipped but it's more like a sieve or a radio dial http://genderdreaming.com/forum/gend...s-swaying.html

Do you normally ovulate CD 14 or later? Then take the soy iso 50 mg days 5-9. If you ov. earlier than CD 14 you'll need to move it back to 4-8, 3-7, even 2-6, but we believe that if you take it earlier in the cycle, it raises odds for twins.

[Coyleof7]

Do you normally ovulate CD 14 or later?

Not sure exactly when I ovulate (but is regular going by CM), that's why I'm starting to chart this month. We're planning to try in September, which gives us just under three months of "sway time" starting this month. One other question - do I only use SI the month we plan on trying or in the months building up to the big BD? We're trying the o+12 method, as BD before O seems to have given us all the boys (going by CM, we always DTD when I had EWCM and it always got me pregnant)

[atomic sagebrush]

The reason I ask when you ovulate, is that if you ovulate earlier than CD 14, you need to start the soy earlier in your cycle in order to give it the proper amount of time to work.

If you O on the early side CD 10-12, then take the soy iso starting CD 2 thru CD 6.

If you O on the normal range CD 13-16, then take the soy iso CD 3-7 if you want a chance at twins, CD 5-9 if you would prefer one baby (this is a little dicy if you generally O CD 13), and CD 4-8 if you are indecisive.

If you tend to O on the later side CD 16 and beyond, then you ~may~ want to take the soy iso CD 5-9 BUT you may also take it earlier and it can help you O sooner in the cycle. Oing sooner can mean you have more cycles in which to try, before the diet drives you totally insane LOL.

I have a diatribe about O+12 here, please also check out the link I posted mid-diatribe. I really don't recommend it. The reason why you got boys DTD before O is because your reproductive tract is designed to conceive from BD before o. Virtually all the people ever conceived, males and femalers alike, are from BD before O because that's what your body is made to do. http://genderdreaming.com/forum/tryi...o-12-help.html

Soy iso month of attempt only.

[onebigwish]

Can i give dh SI 50mg and LR together ? From af to O only.... And another question, can i take SI like clomid CD 5-9? I have no problems with ttc and have regular cycles,i O on day 14. would the SI move my O up? And what are the side effects ?

[Shannshaff]

Is SI a good option to try if I can't take Vitex? I took it the cycle I got my BFP with DS3, but I had to stop taking it because I appear to be allergic to it.

[Coyleof7]

oh- well that was some reading on my part lol guess I'm just going to do the diet up to Sept and then add in the the SI on Sept cycle. going by my dates and all if I fall in Sept I should have my gender scan in Jan/feb so will let you all know. Thanks Atomic, glad I joined this site now x

[atomic sagebrush]

Can i give dh SI 50mg and LR together ? From af to O only.... And another question, can i take SI like clomid CD 5-9? I have no problems with ttc and have regular cycles,i O on day 14. would the SI move my O up? And what are the side effects ?

LR + SI is uncharted territory so I can't say if that's ok or not. Personally I would just give him the soy milk with the LR because people have done that and it seems ok (their husbands could still perform). The risk with the LR + SI, is that testosterone and estrogen are really weirdly balanced and when you mess around with one, you can affect the other one. So it may make the LR less effective, or it may be TOO effective and DH may not be able to DTD taking both.

Yes, you can take SI like Clomid on days 5-9. All the info on how to do that is in the essay or else in the replies afterwards. yes, it may change your O day.

The side effects are also in the essay, I believe.

[atomic sagebrush]

Is SI a good option to try if I can't take Vitex? I took it the cycle I got my BFP with DS3, but I had to stop taking it because I appear to be allergic to it.

They're botanically unrelated so the SI shouldn't cause the same reaction, but of course soy is a common allergen, so you may be allergic to that too.