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  1. #1651
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    Happypixi -- I feel the same! Not totally 100% firm on my determination to keep it a surprise until the end, but not ready to actually find out. I don't know if I can keep from peeking at the next scan... Still debating.
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    DS is nearly 3 yo. Swayed for a , but we are absolutely delighted to be welcoming a , sweet little brother for DS.
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    May: Appendicitis at 9dpo; hospital blood test was BFN.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niva View Post
    Meeks, I think you might be thinking of sperm spinning... That does rely on sperm weight to separate them in a centrifuge, and I've read too that it is probably bogus. But the Microsort is different -- it labels the Y sperm with fluorescence and then sorts them in a special machine. The reason they stopped pursuing FDA approval was monetary, I read... The clinical trials did give very good and consistently high gender ratio results! Pregnancy rates, on the other hand, may be a worry... Haven't researched that at all.
    Yes, Niva, I read that about sperm spinning. Getting DG with Microsort is very high...92% for girls, lower for boys. But getting pg at all is 12-15%, and apparently not recommended for women in their late 30's. I would be pushing 37 by the time we would try again. And the travel to Mexico...not sure we could pull that off with 4 little ones. And pretty sure DH would balk at the safety of going there. So, while at first I was excited about it because it's soooo much cheaper than IVF/PGD, now I'm thinking it's not worth the risk of not getting pg.
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    Microsort - works, but can only weed out like 80-90% of the sperm of the "wrong" gender. It uses dyes and electromagnets to separate out X from Y sperm (the X have more DNA and glow brigher and then a tech goes thru and adds a drop of liquid to each individual sperm and gives it an electric charge. It is great for people doing IVF (because the sperm are weeded out beforehand so lots of your desired gender conceived) but the MS + IUI option got terribly low pg rates, the process apparently made the sperm too tired to go anywhere or do anything. The number quoted by the MS people was 11% pregnancy rates but I and others feel like it was WAY lower than that. I only know two people who got pg from MS + IUI and one was an opposite with a 92% girl sperm sort (supposedly Maureen did it and got boy-girl twins so really that's two opposites but I don't know her personally so I can't totally corroborate that), and there were dozens of people doing hundreds of cycles MS + IUI on IG in its heyday and it was BFN after BFN.

    I really, really, really do not recommend MS + IUI for you guys. I saw so much heartbreak with MS + IUI it really left a bad taste in my mouth. If it's possible, MS + IVF + PGD does work and can give you really good gender splits with way more of your DG.

    And all that having been said, people take Clomid with MS + IUI so who even knows. If we get 80% success rate for pink with Clomid + LE with everyone getting pg, I personally don't think it's a great trade to switch to MS + IUI with Clomid where hardly anyone is going to get pg anyway.

    Sperm spinning, the jury is out on whether that works a little bit or not. Maybe but it's a SMALL amount. Seriously like about as much as swaying itself - 60-70% range. Swaying for a boy is actually getting better results right now by far, than the sperm spinning numbers and swaying for a girl is roughly equal. I am a cheapskate LOL but I personally hate to see you guys shell out $$$$ that you could spend on your kiddos for odds you can get at home..

    It's my most sincere hope that we are going to continue to see the great results with exercise and all this will become moot.
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    Thanks for the info on MS and all that Honestly, it's all a pipe dream for me anyway.... I can't justify shelling out that kind of money to get my girl. I *MAY* try to sway one more time, but even that is very iffy since I would honestly just be trying for the sake of getting a girl, not because I want 4 children per say... really it's not even a decision I can make clearly right now since I haven't even had #3 safely yet!

    For the others considering it though, if you're going to spend the money and time for HT and travel, I would think IVF with PGD would be the most sensible. You get more bang for your buck.... pun intended! haha
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    Thanks, Atomic. That's where I was landing anyway. How are the stats on exercise looking now?
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    Thanks atomic and Nivia. Yes I was thinking sperm spinning I think, or confusing the details. But I do worry about the dye with MS and safety, and the low pg rates.

    Totally agree with atomic re the $$$ point. If you decide to spend on it just do tons and tons of research, and keep an eye on our stats here for swaying because I think the longer we track stats and the more ladies sway, the easier we can figure out what's working and improve the stats anyway. I have seen amazing success with boy sways lately and truly believe if one group can achieve that, the other can too. It's just nutting out the details. It's always preferable to achieve what we can for little cost at home of course.
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    Hi all! Haven't been in here for a while. How's everyone doing?

    AFM, AF started mid week but stopped as suddenly as it started. Decided to test today and got my BFP!

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    Yay Bunny!!! So happy for you!!!
    I have two amazing boys, ages 6 and 8. I finally got my BFP on the first month of Clomid after TTC well over a year with my girl sway. Baby Boy #3 is due July 13, 2014!


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    Congrats Bunnywabbit!!!! FX for lines getting darker and a healthy baby! So excited for you!
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    DS2 - 2007
    DD - 2012 @ 14 wks
    DS3 - 2013

    Baby is here! Born December 4th, 2013 So blessed to have 3 healthy, handsome boys!

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    Yay, bunnywabbit!!! Congratulations! Sounds like implantation spotting to me...woohoo! What have you calculated to be your due date?
    Mommy to 4 precious little boys, would love a , but more also welcome!

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