I just want to cry!!!

[lovemy2blessings]

So FF just told me I ovulated on CD22 here I am on Cd226 and had no clue until right now. I did see a big temperature shift, but why did my cervix remain low and firm? Why did my opk's remain negative and my ferning microscope showed partial ferning. Why did my cm remain watery and never ewcm? Why me? I can't believe I missed O this month I'm so bummed out. What could have possibly caused my cervix to remain low and firm or my opk's negative? Has anyone ever gone through this? I told my dh and he also was pretty upset because he's been abstaining and we actually dtd that day after a 10 abstain, but with a condom because I thought I was going to O like in 4-5 days so we were going to do CFR. Ugh!!! I guess moving on to September, and look at it on the positive side that did indeed ovulate and maybe August wasn't mean for me for a reason...I'm still going to be praying day & night for that future healthy baby girl that my dh and I wish for.

[rainbowflower]

can you link to your chart? you could be coming down with a bug?

[black&gold]

The exact thing happened to me when I was ttc this one. I ALWAYS ovulate on CD14 but my OPK's stayed negative, my cervix never changed position and I never ended up getting pregnant. I was quite sure it was the LE diet because my weight and BMI were ridiculously low. FF said I ovulated when I used one method, but if I used another it said I didn't. The next few months I had a really late O for me (CD22 compared to the usual CD14) and my luteal phase got really short (6 days). I ended up having to drop most of the LE diet - as my doctor got me booked with a fertility specialist - that next month I got a BFP (due in Dec). I definitely know from reading that the LE diet messes up a lot of peoples cycles and many people are having to loosen up on it to get their BFP (many of those still got girls though!) so I'm not sure how crazy you were going with the diet, but that can definitely delay O. The month I got my BFP I still noticed no cervix changes and my CM didn't really go through big changes so I don't know if you can always count on that, at least it never worked for me! For the last cycle or so before my BFP I only used OPK's and temping and tried not to take note of any other 'signs' in my body, and FF usually comfirmed O shortly after my +Opk

[lovemy2blessings]

Thanks ladies...let me see if I can get the chart to upload. I've never uploaded, but here's the link let me know what you all think...TIA

27f44d Ovulation charts on FertilityFriend.com

btw black&gold do you know what you are having? And yes, I've been so strick with the diet and exercise (I finally had a huge cheat meal yesterday lol)

[black&gold]

Thanks ladies...let me see if I can get the chart to upload. I've never uploaded, but here's the link let me know what you all think...TIA

27f44d Ovulation charts on FertilityFriend.com

btw black&gold do you know what you are having? And yes, I've been so strick with the diet and exercise (I finally had a huge cheat meal yesterday lol)

No, we are team green. I'm kind of assuming boy - DH and I did a crazy strict sway for 12 weeks but after 4 months of nothing and my cycles getting worse we pretty much stopped swaying and just tried to get pregnant. I was doing more boy friendly things that month so I wouldn't be surprised. We always just wanted 3 kids, a girl would be the icing on the cake but I'd be thrilled with another boy too so baby was more important than gender at that point.

One of the first months when I was swaying real hard and it was CD21 with no O in site I had a big burger and fry meal and ended up O'ing the following night. I think that's when I realized my body was starving and losing O! lol!

[atomic sagebrush]

I just want to say one thing very firmly to clarify - the vast majority of people whose ovulation got messed up on LE Diet were dieting much more strictly than I recommend (and in fact were not really even DOING LE Diet). So if one is doing LE Diet as it is written and not getting BFP, I do NOT want to see people blaming it on diet based on other people's experiences (who weren't even doing LE
Diet) and dropping or cutting back on a good LE Diet. Starvation is not LE Diet.

What used to happen back on IG all the time, was that people would do these really super duper strict sways with chemistry and timing, etc. and then decide that diet was somehow preventing pregnancy and drop diet FIRST before even adjusting to less strict with the other stuff. So they'd trade stuff that didn't even sway and/or really prevents conception, for the one thing that does sway.
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I don't want that to happen here, but I need you guys to meet me halfway, firstly by not starting off so strictly on diet - start off above where you think you need to be and then you can cut back later on, and secondly by letting go of the other stuff FIRST like the jellies and so on. The stats show clearly that those things are not that effective when compared to diet (when you're on it for long enough) exercise, and lifestyle and so they need to go before dropping or loosening up on diet.

Short version of all that - most of the people who had to loosen up on diet because it messed up their cycles were dieting way way too strictly to begin with, so start off less strict, you can always cut back.

[atomic sagebrush]

bg I'm not totally sure you did O yet, we'll know in a few more days when AF gets here or not.

[lovemy2blessings]

Thanks atomic I'm still going to be temping. I'm still in the 1800-2000 calorie limits that you recommended, still doing my 60 min of walking/6 days a week. I actually don't prohibit any food except meat, chicken or fish, but yesterday I wanted to indulge so bad after 9 1/2 weeks of LE and had me 3pcs of grilled chicken lol. Back to business ad of today. Is the chart not quite showing ovulation yet? Btw all the open circles are days that I was sleep deprived. TIA

[black&gold]

What Atomic said is correct for me, and I definitely wasn't trying to promote what I did (I hope it didn't come off that way and I was just saying my experience as to why I think my O got messed up incase you were doing the same). I ended up finding this site weeks before we wanted to conceive and we had a timeframe, so I wanted to be quite strict so that I could lose at least a pound or two since I was doing it for a shorter time frame (Atomic always recommended against me doing this). My issue is that I already had a super low bmi - 16.8 before starting, and that was with eating probably 2500 cals a day. I weighed a few lbs less when I got pregnant with DS2 doing practically an LE diet and still conceived a boy. For me I wanted to go as extreme as possible initially to hopefully tip the scales.. but it went on month after month as I didn't get pregnant first cycle like expected (with both boys I got pregnant first month). So I just wanted to say I agree with Atomic and in no way want to communicate misinformation. If I were to do it again I'd start way earlier and not go as nuts. I just knew at the time for my body to notice anything I'd have to go more strict as I'm already underweight from doing nothing and live a pretty LE lifestyle already.. and still have 2 boys.

We also dropped all jellies, timing, supps etc. before dropping diet. and still were having problems with my cycle. It was my last thing to be dropped.

[atomic sagebrush]

thank you! I wasn't meaning that you were saying that, it's really HARD to communicate some of these things (even for me and I do it all day every day!)

I so appreciate you sharing the info and experiences and PLEASE don't ever stop doing that, I just want people to have the best sways they can while still staying healthy and sane and fertile.