Super Soy for a girl or a boy!

[atomic sagebrush]

jennibel I was thinking, some of us have only gotten pg when we dropped the V and/or SP - maybe something to think about??

[CloudMama]

I'm a late ovulator (usually CD18 or 19) and hoping for twins. So, when would you recommend I use the SI? I was thinking CD2-6 and taking 180mg (3x60mg pills).

Also does it matter when during the day you take them?

[atomic sagebrush]

If you ovulate late I think you should start them CD 3-7. I want your follicles to get started on their own a bit before you take the soy and if you O late, they may be slower to start with and thus I think 3-7 is smarter than 2-6 (you may not get ANYTHING if you start too soon.)

I think 120 is better for your case than 180.

Most take them at night to avoid side effects.

[aidansmum]

Had my Clomid cycle and HATED it! Unfortunately it wasn't my turn and am about to get AF now. I would really like to try SI instead. I ovulated CD18-20 on Clomid (my chart looked like a mountain range so it was hard to track, and Clomid gave me +OPKs for days on end....crazy). My usual O has always been CD14-15. When should I take it? I am 40 btw. I'm still undecided as to trying SI or just going with Vitex and SP. What do you think?
Or should I just swallow 5 more Clomids and spend another fortune on OPK's???

[atomic sagebrush]

be prepared, the soy may be just as ucky for you.

as a general rule I don't recommend Clomid for older moms anyway because it can raise FSH. My inclination would be for you to do NOTHING this month (no C, V, SP, or soy) - I have seen several people 38+ get pg the month after taking Clomid.

[atomic sagebrush]

...preg with almost all girls too btw...

[aidansmum]

Thanks Atomic, but wouldn't that just mean not swaying at all and risking another boy?? Not even jellies??? I have to decide what to do pretty quick, it's cycle day 1 now and I am so confused as to what to do! Sorry to pick your brain so much but why do you think a cycle after Clomid would sway girl?

[aidansmum]

By the way, I did ovulate on Vitex all 3 cycles I took it and my 1 cycle on SP just made my O slightly later. Are you sure I shouldn't at least have that combo until O?

[atomic sagebrush]

Thanks Atomic, but wouldn't that just mean not swaying at all and risking another boy?? Not even jellies??? I have to decide what to do pretty quick, it's cycle day 1 now and I am so confused as to what to do! Sorry to pick your brain so much but why do you think a cycle after Clomid would sway girl?

Clomid does sway pink (you would agree) and Clomid can stay in your system for a good two cycles afterwards - keep in mind we have no real clue how the Clomid works for swaying so we don't even know that we need to have taken it the month of conception for it to work. When you're actively taking it, it may work TOO well and inhibit conception, so the month coming off the Clomid can be the best of both worlds - you have whatever the Clomid is doing on your side, plus you

The reason I think it sways pink is because I've seen a lot of people get girls the first month off the Clomid. I don't know how or why, but it's enough to make me say hmmm... In the interest of full disclosure tho, they were mostly all on it longer than one month. A couple were on it for 2 months, however.

When I said do nothing, I meant none of the things you mentioned - V, SP, Clomid, soy. not other sway tactics. Those are at your discretion.

Aside from all that, time is not our friend here. We don't have months to spare with Clomid because we don't know if it is raising your FSH - my thinking is, if the Clomid is making you miserable, let it go becuase you prob. shouldn't be on it anyway, and let's capitalize on this "magic month" and see what happens for you. I DON'T want to see you squander what could be a great month by mucking your cycle around with soy and V/SP when our golden egg may be heading your way soon.

Hope that makes sense, sometimes it's tough to elucidate what is largely insticntive to me at this point.

[atomic sagebrush]

By the way, I did ovulate on Vitex all 3 cycles I took it and my 1 cycle on SP just made my O slightly later. Are you sure I shouldn't at least have that combo until O?

I ovulated on Vitex for 6 months and did not get pg till I dropped it (and I had gotten successfully preggers on it once before!) That has been the experience of several of us, particularly those who are "of a certain age" LOL. Check out dramabird and Beadinmom's threads, they had the same experience. Seemingly everything is fine, but BFN. I think you should leave them out of the equation so as not to waste what may be an otherwise great month.