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    At the same time though, even if it doesn't improve, we have consistently gotten in the 65% range and blue swayers have gotten 80% ish - so going from some of us who may hve been 80% likely to have boys to 65% likely to have girls, is HUGE. Swaying cannot and will not ever be 100 so I hope that people are not disappointed with 65 - I think an honest 65% where we are including everyone in the stats without cherry picking the numbers is fantastic. if we can consistently alter the gender ratio from 50-50, or in the case of those of us with 3-4-5 boys where our chances may be more like 60-40 or even worse, that's a really, really big deal.

    While of course i will always strive to improve the sway, I don't want anyone to have false hope that swaying is just a breakthrough away from a sure thing, I just do not believe that to be the case and no magic bullets are forthcoming.
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    At the same time though, even if it doesn't improve, we have consistently gotten in the 65% range and blue swayers have gotten 80% ish - so going from some of us who may hve been 80% likely to have boys to 65% likely to have girls, is HUGE. Swaying cannot and will not ever be 100 so I hope that people are not disappointed with 65 - I think an honest 65% where we are including everyone in the stats without cherry picking the numbers is fantastic. if we can consistently alter the gender ratio from 50-50, or in the case of those of us with 3-4-5 boys where our chances may be more like 60-40 or even worse, that's a really, really big deal.

    While of course i will always strive to improve the sway, I don't want anyone to have false hope that swaying is just a breakthrough away from a sure thing, I just do not believe that to be the case and no magic bullets are forthcoming.
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    I agree, I think 65% for women who are naturally blue swayers is a good result. I think the other forum was quoting 80% success or something like that (although I could never find the spreadsheet with this on it) but I find it hard to believe given the results we're seeing here and the poor success of the IG diet in our stats- perhaps people feel so criticised for getting an opposite that they don't post if they're having an opposite. Who knows.

    BTW no blue swayers seem to be posting results on the spreadsheet and I haven't had to update it in ages as a result. Perhaps there have been no results to post... I don't check into there to see.

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    a few new fields... and the stats they're currently at

    PCOS - (5 sways, 80% got girls) - I was surprised there weren't more actually, only 5 who mentioned PCOS in their "add your sway" section
    RLT/peppermint tea (5 sways, 80%)
    Olive leaf extract (5 sways, 100%)
    cinnamon (2 sways, 100%)


    also worth noting that the clomid stats have dropped quite a bit lately down to 75% following a little flurry of opposites... now 28 clomid sways in the spreadsheet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rainbowflower View Post
    I agree, I think 65% for women who are naturally blue swayers is a good result. I think the other forum was quoting 80% success or something like that (although I could never find the spreadsheet with this on it) but I find it hard to believe given the results we're seeing here and the poor success of the IG diet in our stats- perhaps people feel so criticised for getting an opposite that they don't post if they're having an opposite. Who knows.

    BTW no blue swayers seem to be posting results on the spreadsheet and I haven't had to update it in ages as a result. Perhaps there have been no results to post... I don't check into there to see.
    Re the results on IG, they do not include anyone who doesn't include 5 of 7 sway "factors" so that immediately rules out everyone who isn't willing to be super duper strict. But at the same time I know they have included people who didn't do all the sway factors, when they had a successful sway. It's kinda like, anyone who hears pink is included no matter what, and if peopel didn't hear pink, they are not included in the numbers because that sway is so hard to enact that there is practically always some reason to leave them out. Plus, I am simply not buying that they can possibly be doing these kitchen sink sways when so many people on here are unable to get pg doing only a fraction of that stuff. I do know of at least three people who had successful sways and then tried to do it again and got opposites, but didn't post those results, not sure why.

    I also have never been able to find the spreadsheet tallied up anwhere on IG. The only thing I've ever found was the odds for at home high tech and those were 50-50 for pink.

    I'm sorry to hear that the blue swayers aren't posting, we actually have many fewer blue swayers so we may just not have had enough results yet. We have had 14 of 19 successes, 5 opposites posted publicly and then 2 more successful blue Custom plans who did not want to post for privacy reasons so we are getting good results with blue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rainbowflower View Post
    a few new fields... and the stats they're currently at

    PCOS - (5 sways, 80% got girls) - I was surprised there weren't more actually, only 5 who mentioned PCOS in their "add your sway" section
    RLT/peppermint tea (5 sways, 80%)
    Olive leaf extract (5 sways, 100%)
    cinnamon (2 sways, 100%)


    also worth noting that the clomid stats have dropped quite a bit lately down to 75% following a little flurry of opposites... now 28 clomid sways in the spreadsheet.

    Thank you!!!
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    Okay ladies, so maybe I'm reading the chart wrong and maybe this was already mentioned...but I have to be honest, I haven't gone through the 19 pages of this thread. I've gone through the last 2, sorry, at work. My question is on the inverse sheet, if I'm reading it correctly, it saying that cranberry/aspirin, rephresh and calcium/magnesium supps are doing better when included in the girl sway, than not? I thought the calcium magnesium supplements weren't doing well? I had taken them for a day and stopped them immediately in August b/c I was told that there wasn't any confidence in using them to get a girl. I apologize if I'm reading the sheet wrong. Can someone clarify for me so I know if I should start taking calcium/magnesium supplements?

    Also, for the Rephresh, I assume it's getting great stats. If so, is it the Rephresh Gel that the ladies are using? I'm about to finish my period (on last day or so) and I wanted to start using it but not sure which to buy. I'm also awaiting to hear back about hubby's sperm count in the meantime. Would you advise me not to use Rephresh if they find a reduced sperm count? I probably won't have test results until next week and I probably am going to get a positive OPK around Christmas Eve. Thanks for everyone's help.
    2011 - Matthew (who is the light of my life) in 2013 for delivery some time in 2014

    Came to this website in September 2013 hoping to sway for a girl as we have none on either side of our families (6 boys total). Diagnosed in January 2014 elevated FSH level and extremely low AFC count. Praying and hoping God blesses me with one more healthy child whether it be another boy or a girl. Praying my RE can help me to achieve my dream of giving my son a sibling some time soon.

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    I have data from an actual scientific study done on women who were not swaying in any way, that show higher intake cal and mag = more boys conceived. That is worth much more than our stats which are tainted and muddled because people are all doing 7000 other things to sway. It is my opinion that calcium and magnesium sway blue, particularly when used with Vit. D, and I got my boy taking gobs of the stuff and my girl without it, as have tons of other people. Biologically the theory the cal-mag is based on is nonsensical and doesn't fit with the workings of the human body or even the history of the human race. It's ALWAYS your call to make on that but all I can do is give you my opinion and experience, never have I told anyone to take what I say as gospel without doing the research on their own and I have a plethora of essays on the topic, so sorry if you feel misled somehow.

    Cranberry is not safe when you are TTC, it's not safe to start and stop it suddenly, and it also adds nutrients that may help sway blue. Aspirin is better because it can be taken till BFP then gradually weaned off. I ~personally~ don't think aspirin works by lowering CM pH, I think there's something else going on but I have tons of people taking it so not sure where the confusion lies there. Aspirin is not always compatible for various health conditions so not everyone can use it - but cranberry is actually worse than aspirin in that department.

    I don't think RepHresh is getting good enough numbers to justify its existence and all the trouble it causes and I would NEVER EVER recommend that someone whose husband has low sperm count, use RepHresh anyway.
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    I have data from an actual scientific study done on women who were not swaying in any way, that show higher intake cal and mag = more boys conceived. That is worth much more than our stats which are tainted and muddled because people are all doing 7000 other things to sway. It is my opinion that calcium and magnesium sway blue, particularly when used with Vit. D, and I got my boy taking gobs of the stuff and my girl without it, as have tons of other people. Biologically the theory the cal-mag is based on is nonsensical and doesn't fit with the workings of the human body or even the history of the human race. It's ALWAYS your call to make on that but all I can do is give you my opinion and experience, never have I told anyone to take what I say as gospel without doing the research on their own and I have a plethora of essays on the topic, so sorry if you feel misled somehow.

    Cranberry is not safe when you are TTC, it's not safe to start and stop it suddenly, and it also adds nutrients that may help sway blue. Aspirin is better because it can be taken till BFP then gradually weaned off. I ~personally~ don't think aspirin works by lowering CM pH, I think there's something else going on but I have tons of people taking it so not sure where the confusion lies there. Aspirin is not always compatible for various health conditions so not everyone can use it - but cranberry is actually worse than aspirin in that department.

    I don't think RepHresh is getting good enough numbers to justify its existence and all the trouble it causes and I would NEVER EVER recommend that someone whose husband has low sperm count, use RepHresh anyway.
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    Thanks atomic for clarifying everything. I'm going to stick with not taking the calcium magnesium supplements especially bc I take vitamin d per dr request. I also won't bother with the rephresh. Appreciate you taking the time to go over the items with me.


    Quote Originally Posted by atomic sagebrush View Post
    I have data from an actual scientific study done on women who were not swaying in any way, that show higher intake cal and mag = more boys conceived. That is worth much more than our stats which are tainted and muddled because people are all doing 7000 other things to sway. It is my opinion that calcium and magnesium sway blue, particularly when used with Vit. D, and I got my boy taking gobs of the stuff and my girl without it, as have tons of other people. Biologically the theory the cal-mag is based on is nonsensical and doesn't fit with the workings of the human body or even the history of the human race. It's ALWAYS your call to make on that but all I can do is give you my opinion and experience, never have I told anyone to take what I say as gospel without doing the research on their own and I have a plethora of essays on the topic, so sorry if you feel misled somehow.

    Cranberry is not safe when you are TTC, it's not safe to start and stop it suddenly, and it also adds nutrients that may help sway blue. Aspirin is better because it can be taken till BFP then gradually weaned off. I ~personally~ don't think aspirin works by lowering CM pH, I think there's something else going on but I have tons of people taking it so not sure where the confusion lies there. Aspirin is not always compatible for various health conditions so not everyone can use it - but cranberry is actually worse than aspirin in that department.

    I don't think RepHresh is getting good enough numbers to justify its existence and all the trouble it causes and I would NEVER EVER recommend that someone whose husband has low sperm count, use RepHresh anyway.
    2011 - Matthew (who is the light of my life) in 2013 for delivery some time in 2014

    Came to this website in September 2013 hoping to sway for a girl as we have none on either side of our families (6 boys total). Diagnosed in January 2014 elevated FSH level and extremely low AFC count. Praying and hoping God blesses me with one more healthy child whether it be another boy or a girl. Praying my RE can help me to achieve my dream of giving my son a sibling some time soon.

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