Hysteropingogram (HSG) and swaying

[Trishy74]

I have a feeling due to my age and DH's age (39 years, almost 40 myself) that my dr. is going to be ordering this for me if I'm not preggo by the end of January. A sperm analysis still needs to be done and I know when I had issues getting preggo last time, sperm analysis came back normal and then I was sent for an HSG which they said my tubes were clear (no blockages). Then I was sent to a fertility clinic which told me my prolactin levels were high so I stopped beta blocker (Verapamil; used for preventative of migraines) which was causing this issue and then took OPK that month and bam got pregnant right away (week and half later). Had HSG done month prior. So I've had my progesterone levels checked (17-OH hydroxyprogesterone test and number is 120 which is good. Had prolactin levels checked and those are good. Had sono done and showed I ovulated last month and have been using OPK's for 4 months now and nothing. I know fertility becomes reduced as some of us get older and well, my hubby does have some kidney issues (transplant recipient) but he had this already when we got preggo with DS 3 years ago and he WAS NOT the issue, I was. So I have a feeling, that if I'm not preggo by January (6 mos of trying), my dr. will order sperm analysis and if that is good, I'm sure I will be the next in order for an HSG test. I'm just wondering, does HSG produce girls? I would think more boy b/c you are opening the tubes up. I do believe although my tubes weren't blocked last time, that having the HSG definitely helped me get preggo. Maybe it's psychological but between doing the OPK for the first time a month later and wham, preggo I just have a feeling the HSG helped me. I'm sure it was a combination of using OPK for first time, prolactin levels down to normal and HSG.

So if anyone has gotten pregnant with a girl, after an HSG, I would love to hear it. I know I got my DS who I love to pieces and more than anything in this world. I always wanted a girl and was a little disappointed when I found out I was having a boy during my amnio back then. However, I feel God gave me my boy to make me realize just how much fun a boy can be. It totally changed my outlook on having a son. But I still would like to have a little girl and if I do get another boy, I won't be devastated. I'll just miss the things you can do with a girl. Buying cute dresses, planning their wedding and just having that different bond. I know I put my mom through hell as a teenager but now since my late 20's, we are best friends and I just couldn't see my life any other way. But I know a boy is true to their mommy as well and like I said, I am so grateful God blessed me with a son so I was able to see the light and see just how much fun it is to be a boy mommy.

K, sorry for getting all sappy! LOL. I'm so embarrassed to even think back or write it down about how I was disappointed finding out I was having a boy when now I think total opposite.

So if anyone has known someone who has had a baby girl after HSG or has had a girl themselves, I'd greatly appreciate some feedback. Thank you.

[atomic sagebrush]

having a girl is great, don't get me wrong, but I have adult sons and they are THE GREATEST. Literally my best friends in the whole wide world and both very easy as teenagers.

Re the HSG, I don't believe that they sway. No one is really quite sure if the HSG does anything theraputically for anyone who doesn't have adhesions or if it's just a coincidence, some people think it may wash away gunk from the tubes that for men with questionable swimmers, may be too much for them. If for the sake of argument, your tubes are easily "gunked up" LOL and you postpone the month after thinking "oh heck this might sway blue" you may give up your best shot of conception for something that probably doesn't sway anyway! So i would def. have you TTC.

[Trishy74]

Thanks for the info. As for having a son, I was the girl growing up who had lots of guy friends and maybe two best girlfriends. I loved hanging around with the guys who worked on hot rod cars. So looking back I don't know why I wouldn't want a boy. Girls can be so caddy! Lol.

As for hsg if I need to get it done I wouldn't skip a month for ttc. I ttc the same month I had it done last time too but nothing happened. I just don't have the time to waste with ttc. I didn't have fsh levels checked yet.

Also I started DH on vitamin d and folic acid about a month ago. Do you know how long it takes to affect sperm? Does it take more than a month?

Thanks for sharing your closeness with your adult sons. Gives me hope! I know DH isn't close with his mom and I have a brother and his relationship is totally different with my mom than my relationship with her. I feel we have a much better bond my mom and I than she has with my brother. So you def give me a sense of hope. I haven't gotten AF yet but due this weekend. HZve a feeling its on its way.

[atomic sagebrush]

sperm are being made constantly and so the supps start to help immediately.

[Trishy74]

Thank you Atomic.

I was under the impression it may take 60 days or so for the supplements to start working b/c I know when my hubby was taking antibiotics, it took 60 days or so for the sperm affected by those meds or a fever to be of more quality (newer). I just found out last night though that he stopped taking the calcium and vitamin d b/c the pills are too large to place in his pill holder. He's still taking 1 mg of folic acid though. I put him back on my vitamin d pills without calcium b/c they are much smaller. He's taking 2,000 units every other day. I'm hoping that some of that will not be absorbed due to taking it every other day. Thanks again for your help.

sperm are being made constantly and so the supps start to help immediately.

[atomic sagebrush]

Well, it really doesn't work like that in terms of sperm, there aren't little separate compartments per every day of development, they're all somewhat mixed in together in layers. Unlike something harmful, where all sperm are being harmed by it and thus the only way to be sure that all sperm are of ok quality is to wait till all sperm possibly harmed by the harmful substance have been ejaculated, with things that are helpful, they start benefiting all the sperm right away at the various stages of development. The ones that are pretty much done developing may be helped less than the ones that are forming, but still it's not a BAD thing, if that makes any sense. Something good is, well, GOOD, even if it's only working for ya for a few weeks.

http://genderdreaming.com/forum/gend...frequency.html

[Trishy74]

I literally LOL'd b/c of the term jelly beans! I totally understand what you are getting at though. I think you used a great comparison for explaining everything. I read that article when I first found your site like 3 months ago but had forgotten what I read. Now I definitely won't forget.

I know you say DH riding a bike or taking a bath helps with girl sway for the man. Since conceiving my son 3 years ago, his company transferred him to a different location which is about 1 hour drive in to work and about a 1 to 1 1/2 hour drive home from work. His original work location was a half hour away from home before and when we conceived DS. Would the longer travel time 5 or 6 days per week affect sperm count? He's been doing this now for about 2 years. I did actually call my gyno today to order a sperm analysis for him b/c I'm skeptical of his swimmers. I'm sure you are familiar with my story by now but he did have a kidney transplant in 2005. We conceived DS in 2010 with no problems on his side (just me). Now, since DS goes to daycare and gets sick often, my husband tends to catch everything and sometimes it's a lot worse (say the stomach virus, he was violently ill with it 2 years ago b/c of being immunocompromised). And also, since he's been sick so much in the past 2 years, each time he takes a rx for a sinus infection, he always develops c. difficile and then needs to take a rx to add good bacteria. Before DS, (from 2005 to 2010), my husband NEVER even had a cold after his transplant being on immunocompromised with meds. Looking back, I feel his life has changed so much with illnesses since DS was born (not saying it to be mean in anyway). DS was and is a blessing to us. I do feel that the past 2 years have totally taken a toll on my hubby with getting sick so often and maybe all that driving and sitting down all those hours and then once he gets to work, he's a field tech so he does a lot of driving there too. This is why I'm having my gyno order sperm analysis after 4 mos of trying..oh, and our age...we are both 39.

In your opinion, would all of the above I mentioned make sense in affecting sperm count? I'm dying to get him tested to see what the results are this way I can put my mind at ease if he's the culprit or not. I don't think I would ask my dr. to check him so soon if he wasn't on so many meds. I did call one of his med companies and spoke with them and they did say it can cause low sperm count but DH has been on the same med since before we conceived DS. Unless it affects sperm production more over time? He's been on these drugs (prednisone, cellcept and prograf since Feb 2005).

I can't express enough to you how much I appreciate you taking the time to answer all of my questions. Appreciate it.

Well, it really doesn't work like that in terms of sperm, there aren't little separate compartments per every day of development, they're all somewhat mixed in together in layers. Unlike something harmful, where all sperm are being harmed by it and thus the only way to be sure that all sperm are of ok quality is to wait till all sperm possibly harmed by the harmful substance have been ejaculated, with things that are helpful, they start benefiting all the sperm right away at the various stages of development. The ones that are pretty much done developing may be helped less than the ones that are forming, but still it's not a BAD thing, if that makes any sense. Something good is, well, GOOD, even if it's only working for ya for a few weeks.

http://genderdreaming.com/forum/gend...frequency.html

[atomic sagebrush]

When I have custom blue swayers whose husbands drive a lot or sit at desks, I advise them to get up and walk around once an hour even if just for a minute, for that very reason. Anything that puts pressure or heat on the "jewels" can be bad for sperm health.

I think it's a good idea to have him tested. Yes absolutely these medicines have a cumulative effect and so even if he was ok a few years ago there may be issues now.

What supps is he taking (sorry should know but no way to keep it all straight and don't want to make a mistake)

[Trishy74]

Please, don't apologize for not remembering the supps my DH is taking. You are a very busy woman between answering everyone's questions and being so helpful and taking care of your own family.

Before conceiving DS, he was taking Oscal plus D (from 2005 to 2010), and 5 mg of folic acid. However, last year, the nephrologist stopped him on both of these supps. So I recently started him back up on 2,000 units of D3 every other day and 1 mg of folic acid. He saw his nephrologist 2 weeks ago and she said his D levels are good but it's okay to take the supplement although, she did say his magnesium was a little low so she told him to start taking that. After he saw her, I told him why not take the calcium pills with D that I had purchased for myself when I first looked up swaying and was under the impression that those supps were okay for a girl sway but then found out it wasn't. But I just found out last night that he has not been taking the calcium plus D b/c they are too large to fit into his pill holder. So I told him to start taking vit D3 2,000 units every other day again (those are my supps due to having deficiency last year but I'm okay now). So I think he stopped taking the Vitamin D like 2 weeks ago but before this, he was taking it for almost a month. Folic Acid, I have him taking only 1 mg.

We are going to get sperm analysis done on Friday so I should have an answer soon as to if he is the issue at hand. Last time I thought it was him as well and it turned out to be me. But I've had my prolactin and progesterone checked and I'm good. However, I am waiting to hear from my gyno to do a FSH on me. That blood work he has not done yet. Today is day 3 of my cycle so I probably will have to wait until next cycle. Although, when I went to fertility clinic 3 years ago, they tested my FSH on whatever day I was there and went by whatever number was listed for the phase I was at during my menstrual cycle.

Again, I can't say it enough, thanks for all your help. I figured sitting for a long time during his commute was not good. I know the commute going to work is less time b/c leaves early so not so much traffic but coming home at night can be a nightmare at times.

ETA: DH takes 2.5 mg of prednisone (just asked him). I think that's the lower end of it but he has been taking it for almost 9 years now.

When I have custom blue swayers whose husbands drive a lot or sit at desks, I advise them to get up and walk around once an hour even if just for a minute, for that very reason. Anything that puts pressure or heat on the "jewels" can be bad for sperm health.

I think it's a good idea to have him tested. Yes absolutely these medicines have a cumulative effect and so even if he was ok a few years ago there may be issues now.

What supps is he taking (sorry should know but no way to keep it all straight and don't want to make a mistake)

[atomic sagebrush]

I actually think you should discuss with his doctor before having him take calcium, I am no expert on kidney stuff but my niece's mom has kidney disease and can't have much stuff with calcium in it.

I would also ask about a male fertility supp compatible with his health - there are several on the market and one or the other should be ok for him but would not want to advise you incorrectly on that - some contain megadoses of vitamin/minerals that could be harmful for him and others have weird herbs and stuff he's just better off without.