Which gender are we more likely to conceive?

[Shakti]

I never thought it would stay at 96% if we went for a 3rd pregnancy. Just like without swaying, I felt way more hopeful, as our odds of a girl if we had a total of 2 pregnancies without swaying would be 75%, now that we have one boy, the odds of a girl if we ever only have 2 pregnancies without swaying is 50%. Don't worry, I graduated Magna Cum Laude with an accounting degree and did several classes in statistics, so I get how statistics work!

That said, if I have a really good sway plan, if I have a failed sway plan for our 2nd, but it was still a good solid plan, is it worth doing the same sway plan if/when we have our 3rd?

Also really curious what aspects of my lifestyle would be worth tweaking now so that a girl sway comes more easily in a couple of years. I found diet the most challenging, but based on the reading that I've done, at this point I'm tempted to try a high calcium & magnesium/low sodium & potassium approach combined with douching to achieve an acidic environment. I know that my diet is very alkalinising, which is great for disease prevention, but not so good for having a daughter.

[atomic sagebrush]

Ok, I'm not trying to offend you, but you must keep in mind that in addition to you, many other people may also read this thread who lack your credentials, and they may not understand how statistics work. So when I read something that I feel could potentially cause confusion for people then I simply can't let that go uncorrected.

If you feel you have a good sway plan then I personally think that reenacting it for a 3rd go-round even if it produced an opposite, is actually a good idea. Where swaying is concerned, Lady Luck has her own role to play and I don't think there is anything wrong with doing the exact same thing and expecting different results. Swaying is like Yahtzee (dicing game), you can roll the dice more than once and have new and exciting things happen every time.

Now, that's not what ~I~ did and got my daughter on a low calcium, high sodium diet after a failed sway where I was taking tons of calcium and limiting sodium. But that's another topic entirely

[Shakti]

No offense, I find it challenging sometimes to communicate effectively now that I'm switching back and forth between Dutch and English all the time! I thought the Yahtzee analogy might be the case. As far as what I see myself able to manage while I have a toddler, I can see myself managing a diet, though probably more of a raw foods one, I saw in another reply you posted in a thread that that could be a good one for a girl, and a good way to introduce our son to more healthy meal options.

Douching or using a lime-soaked tampon is of course very easy, and as far as timing goes, I think anything except frequent release should be doable with a child. For this child, we were making love at least every 2nd day, more for the sake of catching the egg, as there was no telling when I would ovulate coming off the pill. After we have our son, I've long known that I'll use an IUD as I didn't like what the pill was doing to my body anyway, but then use that as an opportunity to chart my cycles.

My husband says he's more than happy to cooperate on this sway, as he'd love a daughter too, so supplements are definitely a doable option for both of us. And he's a vegetarian, and is happy to eat vegan at home with me. On that note, we did test his sperm right before conceiving, and his sperm count and quality was definitely on the high side.

I saw on the thread for statistics that exercise is one of the more effective methods for the ladies that implemented it, which could be a challenge for me but also possible to overcome. I shouldn't do couch potato, I'm starting a yoga teacher training right after the birth of our son which goes for 2 years, at the end of which we'll try for our daughter. So I think in order for that one to be effective I would have to add an hour of cardio a day to that one. The biggest reason that one would be a challenge is that none of the gyms in our area that are in our budget have childcare, so I would have to go early in the morning or late at night. But this could be overcome is, say, we found a decent exercise bike that I could keep up the motivation to use, had some good XBox fitness games, or both.

For now though, just getting an idea of what's doable so that then I can know what's doable to get a daughter, put it at the back of our mind, enjoy our son, and then pick it back up a year or so after he's born. Thanks again!

[Bigwish]

Hi Shakti, we have a Dutch corner as well, come and join us

http://genderdreaming.com/forum/inte...et%3B-mei.html

Just started diet for 2,5 weeks now and it is doable, i had my doubts, but it goes well!

[gurly]

I think your lifestyle heavily leans boy to be honest!! I never ate a diet like that, nor did I exercise. I limited my intake severely to diet or skipped meals regularly. When I gained weight it was from eating nutritionally empty calories like white bread, pasta, sweets, chocolate, and low levels of fruit, veg and meat. I drank diet coke like most healthy people drink water, 2-3 litres per day. My lack of exercise meant I had low muscle mass.

A lot of what you described about your lifestyle screams boy and are things I am starting to change about my own lifestyle to sway boy. If I were you and had really researched what girl mothers eat/do and the studies you can find on here...and I wanted a girl....I would be swaying without a doubt!

I just saw this thread and I realize its now too late but I agree with this poster I have quoted. My poor diet was similar to hers and I have a girl.

[Shakti]

I think I'm just challenging when it comes to diet. Just about everyone who knows me knows I'm pretty fanatical about health food, I've even had to persuade my mother-in-law to eat more vegetables and less sugar!

I do have a sensitive digestive system and an active lifestyle though, so if LE diet is doable on that, I'll consider it, but that's also why I'm thinking the high-calcium & magnesium/low-sodium & potassium route may be the safer way to go so that I can sustain my lifestyle. Especially because I read on the thread with the swaying statistics that it's most effective to be on the diet for 6 months beforehand. And another reason why I wanted to establish I was fertile before swaying, as if it took a year to conceive, my health would suffer if I ate low-nutrient food.

As far as my digestive system goes, something that was a huge challenge when I test-drove the LE diet is that if I was eating hardly any vegetables, white rice, refined grains, etc., my digestive system got clogged up. Adding artificial fiber also clogged up my system. Only natural fibers like vegetables and whole grains seem to work on my system. For a few weeks around the time we conceived, I was doing a lot of juicing, not as a fast but in addition to my normal food. This seemed to help. One thing to consider too is that aspartame is much more difficult to find in Europe than it is in the US, and rightfully so. Plus drinking diet soda or anything carbonated is one of the worst things for my digestive system, I stay clear away from it.

We're still a long time away from conceiving our 2nd child, but for now, I've banned myself from adding extra salt to foods. That, and I'm going to try label-reading and gravitating towards foods which don't already have added salt, which is a lot of the things we were buying. I also have a lot of the symptoms of magnesium deficiency, which is something I need to be high in if I'm following the Dutch study or French gender diet, so I'm thinking addressing that wouldn't be a bad idea. At least addressing those 2 nutrients would be good for my health anyway.

But yeah, douching, supplements, and timing (as long as my periods regulate with the IUD in), should definitely be doable. Exercise, good chance that's doable, my understanding is that it's best to start that a few months before swaying anyway so I might just work up the discipline to go do cardio first thing in the morning before my husband goes to work. Diet, I need to find one that's compatible with my lifestyle and my sensitive health issues, ideally that I can sustain for 1 year or more.

[atomic sagebrush]

Low carb vegetables are FREE on LE Diet. You can have as much as you like, you do not need to count calories, protein, or fat in them.

People have some misconception about what the LE Diet really is but it's NOT what you think. You can have fruit, veg, and whole grains if you would like them. The idea that white grains are "better" - it's just this one miniscule aspect of the diet as a whole and you can of course leave that out if you would like to.

The aspartame is not mandatory, I didn't use it with my LE Diet when I got my daughter. I got my 4th son while using it and I personally don't like it so I left it out. A lot of things that are kept in the diet are more because the majority of people wish to include them and not because they're critical elements of LE Diet.

I do not recommend anyone go onto diet for 6 months before TTC. People got better results with that in the stats, but those stats can be very misleading, because people who go for a long time not getting pg are often the people doing the strictest of the strict sways anyway. The people who get pregnant sooner, may simply be more laid back about swaying overall and possibly more likely to get boys because they're not doing as strict a sway. (and that is absolutely fine. There is room for all kinds of swayers on here and I don't tolerate the "my sway is better than your sway" kind of competition that goes on on some of the other sites - but it can affect the stats and so I am just reminding people of that.)

I actually don't think it's a smart idea to go onto the diet for too long before TTC - while we do not have the data to say, we have speculated that if you're on diet a super duper long time before TTC, your body may gradually become used to it over the course of time.

Under no circumstances should you do a French or IG-style diet longer than 6 months. This is right in the French Diet book itself - 6 months is the maximum to be on that diet due to the badly skewed mineral content.

Just my 2 cents, probably unwanted and unwelcome, but I find it a bit perplexing when people make this claim that LE Diet is in any way unhealthy or inferior to FGD/Dutch/IG diets when the nutrient guidelines overall are in fact very similar and when the FGD/Dutch/IG Diets are having people take megadoses of vitamins that are not proven safe, and avoiding minerals like potassium that can KILL people when they don't get enough. If you are convinced that the FGD/Dutch science is sound and you believe in it that's one thing, but if the idea is that FGD is in any way healthier than LE Diet, that's inaccurate. Some people choose to do an unhealthy diet and call it LE Diet, but that is outside of my control. I've done everything in my power to make a healthy set of dietary guidelines that will sway pink for people and is safe to stay on in the long term.

[fiszka]

My own example as well as examples of my friends and relatives prove that diet has nothing to do with the gender. My diet was 99,5% girl-like (not having swayed) and I conceived a boy. My husband's diet too.

[atomic sagebrush]

There is more than one diet out there and scientific studies have shown that diet does sway. A handful of personal experiences does not prove or disprove anything - you need studies involving hundreds of people to even begin to guess and draw conclusions about how swaying works.

It is NOT about diet at the end of the day. It is maternal condition. You can get a boy eating a girl and vice versa. All diet is, is a means to an end of altering condition and sending a message to our bodies.

[Hazela]

Me and my husband really wanted to have a boy after two girls..