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    Commonalities between those TTC pink but got Blue

    Okay, so I am a bit of an excel nerd, and just generally like analyzing data.... so I have been analyzing the people who bought personalized plans to TTC a girl, but ended up with a boy. This is a very small sample size (5 people), but I wanted to see if I noticed any common threads about what those 5 people had in common. Here is what I noticed:

    None of them used Vitex Berry
    None of them used Saw Palmetto
    None of them used Calcium/Magnesium
    4 of the 5 had 3 attempts, the 5th only had 1 attempt
    4 of the 5 did NOT use RepHresh
    4 of the 5 did NOT use licorice root for DH

    Of the 5, two of them had been TTC for more than 7 cycles, so I imagine that after having that many BFN show up they probably backed off some of their sway tactics because it was preventing them from getting pregnant.

    Obviously, I don't know that this means anything specifically, but I just thought it was interesting to see the commonalities between this small subset of people.
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    While I really appreciate what you're trying to do here (believe me, I did something similar with the pink exercise sway stats) I think atomic discourages this kind of scrutiny for a couple of reasons.

    #1: it's a very Martha thing to do. We boy moms are so into analyzing, researching and overthinking everything as a group, that this behavior in and of itself may sway blue. Check out her Maternal Dominance essay if what I'm saying doesn't make sense to you.

    #2: this is why IG was such an unfriendly place for swayers. I think atomic worded it "everyone descended like vultures to pick apart failed sways and point to what wasn't done perfectly." It was awful. Women were obsessively trying to do every sway tactic to a T, and that in and of itself was probably working against them. It also made women feel ashamed and like failures when they swayed and knew they'd done one or two things less-than-perfectly. We know from the "lazy sways" that women post that it's entirely possible to get your DG without a picture-perfect sway, and everyone knows women who naturally get both genders without swaying at all.

    Like I said, I'm not trying to make you feel bad for analyzing the results like this, but there are reasons why it's generally discouraged. Good luck with your sway!
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    Very interesting. I'll admit, I tend to pick things apart a bit, too...it's too hard not to sometimes. I wish I could be a lazier swayer.
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    One of my boys I was talking cal/mag (atomic has a boy from this too!)

    My second failed sway I was taking vitex and SP and rephresh.

    There is no magic combination that will work every time, if it were that simple we'd have figured it out by now!
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    Thanks, Christi, for putting that info together. It's interesting to see!
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    LilithWiser1979, thank you for your reply. I didn't even think about the fact that my analysis could be viewed as criticizing any of the women who had opposites. I certainly didn't intend it that way!
    Mom to (2013)
    Got pregnant swaying pink on our 3rd try.
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    Thanks for sharing your data analysis, all much appreciated. I feel very relaxed about my sway with people to analyse data for me and share their knowledge in general. I've been so relaxed with my sway that I missed O about three months in a row despite my strict diet and daily one hour high impact cardio. Actually I think the exercise made me too tired to care about conception! Good luck with your journey
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    Christi, I too am fascinated by 'failed' pink sways. I have read nearly all if not all of them, and while I didn't keep official notes, I observed the following:

    - about 60% had more than one BD attempt in the fertile period
    - about 30% didn't do the LE diet or admitted to doing it loosely
    - about 10% seemed to do everything perfectly but still got boys

    This suggests to me that following the diet properly and having one attempt, with few or no other sway factors, pink swaying could have a 90% success rate. Of course my numbers are guesstimates, but I think they're decent ones!

    (While I agree it is interesting - and great! - when lazy sways succeed, I find failed strict sways to be the most informative by far. Failed blue sways are also fascinating, as they reveal how one might get a girl despite boy-friendly tactics.)

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    TTC #1 - swaying pink on & off since Nov 2013 - hoping for a girl first but excited for either!

    Dec 2001 - May 2006 : 5 early abortions of healthy singletons (3 medical @5w, 2 surgical @8w, last 4 pregnancies conceived with late DH, all conceived while TTA/on birth control)
    Mar 2012: miscarried B/G twins @5w (conceived 2 cycles after remověng Paraguard copper IUD while NTNP), one twin was ovarian ectopic

    Me: 34, widowed, late O + short LP, normal-good hormone levels excepting undetectable testosterone, seeking a known sperm donor/life partner
    My sway: vegetarian LE for over 28w, skipping breakfast, fibre (ground psyllium husks) with/before/between meals, physically inactive, drama avoidance, ocassional minimal YesBaby lube as needed, alternate cycles on low dose Clomid, double shot lattes (with meals)
    Past sway tactics I've dropped (in order): Vitex, Sudafed, antihistamines, intermittent fasting, one attempt per cycle at positive OPK, one attempt in fertile period

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    Thanks also to maidentomother. I'd sort of come up with that % too from reading the spreadsheet. Who knew how good we'd get at data analysis!? Amazing when you have a real purpose.
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    maidentomother, thank you for the great ideas about looking at the failed boy sways. I agree that there definitely seems like there is something to the 1 attempt, so I want to look at the stats on the successful sways to see what the number of attempts stats show. It would be interesting to see if it is mostly 1 or just a hodge podge. I will report back when I have further analysis.
    Mom to (2013)
    Got pregnant swaying pink on our 3rd try.
    Fingers crossed for a on June 14, 2015

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