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    Oxford study says this:
    "Nulliparous white women with no medical problems (including obesity) were recruited from a district general hospital in the south of England at their first antenatal clinic visit early in pregnancy (approx. 14 weeks gestation). Regardless of their medical history, all pregnant women in the region were referred to these clinics by their family physician; stratified random sampling was used to ensure that the proportion of smokers in the cohort represented that in the local population."

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    Sorry rainbowflower, I think I've confused you, I wasn't talking specifically about the study you posted a link to - there were several other studies I read which came up with the same results and I was talking in general about these I'll re-post Atomic's response as it was in the dream-member section:

    'Now to the timing factor. I personally believe that timing does not matter one iota as you know already and there are tons of studies done on timing and none of them agree in any way. But, here is why we might possibly expect to see a bump in girl conceptions at O even if timing does not matter. For couples who are not very fertile, it may very well be the case that they can ONLY conceive right at O. That's the only time they're fertile enough to conceive. If a guy has weak/few sperm or a gal has hostile or very little CM, they are more likely to conceive a girl from the get-go and if they DTD with a cutoff or at O+12, they simply wouldn't get pg at all.

    For the rest of us Fertile Myrtles out there, we can conceive fairly easily from DTD 2-3 days before O and some of us even longer in advance. Due to enhanced fertility, we might be more likely to conceive boys and since most people who are TTC have intercourse at least once prior to O. So a very fertile couple who DTD 2 DBO (or even 5!!) might very well have more of a shot at conceiving a boy than a less fertile couple who DTD spot on at O. That does not mean that there is any mystical or hormonal benefit to DTD on O for a highly fertile couple and in fact that might be the exact wrong thing for them to do.

    In fact, it seems well within the realm of the possible that the variations we see in results from timing studies may have been nothing more than a set of couples (virtually all the timing studies are ridiculously small sample size so 2 or 3 couples could skew the entire thing) who were a little more or a little less fertile than a different set of couples in a different study.'
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deux Bleus View Post
    Ok, so Im trying to work out whats the most succesful way in BDing to conceive a pink bundle.

    All of my friends have a DD, and most after a DS. Its interesting to see how they conceived their DD and whether their is truth in timing/cutoffs etc or is it purely coincidence?

    So 3 ladies got their DD after 1 or 2 DS & all of them DTD ONCE with abstaining for a week with at least a 5 day cutoff.
    3 others I know DTD every SECOND day, starting around a week before O and had a 2 day cut off.

    I was reading articles from a leading IVF Dr recently and his new found theory is that instead of abstaining and DTD on O day, its better to get rid of the sperm from the testicles every day, 5 days prior to O. (His theory is that its better to have lower sperm with better quality opposed to more sperm with lower quality). He has a very high success rate with males ejaculating daily rather than once and the dominant gender with this technique is males.

    My 2 DS were def conceived by DTD on O day.

    So just want to see what worked for pink mamas. Afterall, I might only get once chance at making it work

    Thanks.
    The two methods for TTC pink are abstaining for 7-10 days with one attempt (which is what your friends did) OR frequent release of at least once a day, for at least 7-10 days. NOT 5 days. The IVF doc is right, frequent release for only 5 days does not sway as hard as 7-10 days frequent release would (although it certainly does not sway blue and anyone who wants a boy would be well advised to ignore that all together in favor of BD 2-4 days apart for best results with blue). Some pink swayers are doing frequent release every day from AF-O which would be 14 days frequent release.

    In addition to frequent release some people are even having their husband release twice on the day of their attempt, dumping the first batch and using the second batch. Also unlike the people in the article, pink swayers are already doing many, many things that are bad for sperm and conception to begin with so to compare the two groups in terms of results is really like comparing apples to oranges.

    So I hope it's clear that the method the IVF doc describes is really not the same as the frequent release that we use here on this site.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deux Bleus View Post
    Ill try and find the article for you. Its basically talking about the success rate of getting pregnant by ejaculating every day opposed to abstaining. I remember reading that out of the same clinic where they use this method, 53% are boys and 47% are girls. He never confirmed that it was the method, I guess its just coincidence.
    I have 3 friends that fell pregnant from this clinic, using the same method and all 3 have boys!
    That is BARELY different from what the gender ratio is anyway.
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