One attempt TTC girl

[CattyPad]

Hello,
As atomic adviced we will be doing one attempt per cycle. But, is it ok to "fully dtd" at other times of the month when you know for sure you can't get pregnant, like cd4? Or is there a reason we shouldn't and should use contraception?
And the other times, is pull out enough or not cause it may rise ph?
Thanks!

[essnce629]

You're only meant to dtd once in your "fertile window" which is about a 4 day time span-- 3 days before O and the day of O. You can dtd whenever you want, with or without protection, outside of that window. I would not dtd more than once in your fertile window, pull out or not.

[MamaCass85]

So only DTD 4 days before ovulation?

[essnce629]

So only DTD 4 days before ovulation?

No, you want to DTD only once in your fertile window. Most of us use OPKs and DTD once when we get a +opk. That will guarantee that you are DTD when you are fertile. A +opk usually means that you will ovulate in 8-48 hours. You want to DTD before you ovulate to make sure the sperm are ready and waiting in the fallopian tube when the egg is released.

If you don't want to use OPKs then you can DTD every 4 days from the end of AF and beyond. That will also guarantee that you only have 1 attempt in your fertile window.

[Sp4rkl3s]

Could it be too late if you wait for positive OPK? If you can't DTD straight away, and sperm need time after DTD to capacitate, and the egg doesn't always live very long, the one attempt could miss the chance for conception?
And depending when ovulation happens, if going for the 4 day pattern, you could be DTD 3 days before ovulation and straight after, which would reduce chances of conception a lot?
I'm still trying to work it out ready for my attempt this month!

[bluebonnet22]

Could it be too late if you wait for positive OPK? If you can't DTD straight away, and sperm need time after DTD to capacitate, and the egg doesn't always live very long, the one attempt could miss the chance for conception?
And depending when ovulation happens, if going for the 4 day pattern, you could be DTD 3 days before ovulation and straight after, which would reduce chances of conception a lot?
I'm still trying to work it out ready for my attempt this month!

re: OPK - you have 8-48 hours to DTD and still be in with a good attempt. For most people DTD the evening of (or after if you take your OPK in the morning) is plenty of time. That being said I screwed this up my first month TTC because I always ovulated 48 hours after positive OPK (for 6 months straight), so I DTD the day after my positive OPK and I ended up ovulating the DAY OF my positive OPK so my attempt was too late.

re: 4 day pattern. The 3 days before ovulation is the "worst case scenario", but you are still plenty fertile enough to get pg with 3 days before. Many people do a combination of OPK + every 4 days. In other words, they start DTD every 4 days after AF and still use OPK. If it's been 3 days since DTD and you get a positive OPK, some who have been trying for many months will add in an attempt (because they worry as you did that 3 days prior to O is too big of a cut off). I'll be doing this for my attempt this month, but it's only recommended if you've been on the diet and attempting for many months because technically it lowers pink odds a little bit to add an attempt like that.

[atomic sagebrush]

It all depends on if you are going for the "ideal" or the "real".

Under ideal circumstances you'd stick with one attempt. the hormones in semen ~may~ make you a little more boy-friendly. But in the real world in which we all must dwell, we need to keep hubbies happy too and my husband would not be real happy with nookie 1x a month.

I really really doubt DTD at other times of month is any way a dealbreaker (and we can see this becuase the every 4 day unprotected BD method is getting good results too.

[atomic sagebrush]

You're only meant to dtd once in your "fertile window" which is about a 4 day time span-- 3 days before O and the day of O. You can dtd whenever you want, with or without protection, outside of that window. I would not dtd more than once in your fertile window, pull out or not.

Yes, one attempt in fertile window, DTD out of fertile window at individual discretion (must keep DH happy!)

[atomic sagebrush]

So only DTD 4 days before ovulation?

timing doesn't sway. http://genderdreaming.com/forum/gend...le-timing.html

Having one attempt that can possibly get you pregnant (in the "fertile window" of O-3 through O day, ANY of those days, but just ONCE) has been geting 70% success for us for pink.

[atomic sagebrush]

Could it be too late if you wait for positive OPK? If you can't DTD straight away, and sperm need time after DTD to capacitate, and the egg doesn't always live very long, the one attempt could miss the chance for conception?
And depending when ovulation happens, if going for the 4 day pattern, you could be DTD 3 days before ovulation and straight after, which would reduce chances of conception a lot?
I'm still trying to work it out ready for my attempt this month!

1)Yes technically you can miss the egg this way if you ovulated very soon after pos OPK and took a little while to DTD. But it's not terribly likely that this will occur and in the grand scheme I would not lose any sleep over that possiblity.

2)Yes, it is possible that you could DTD 3 DBO and then after O. But again, that's the least likely possibility and it WON'T happen month after month You will eventually get the timing right.. The point of the every 4 day method is to remove the stress of having to hit the timing nail right on the head and so you have to be like, c'est la vie, I accept that some months this is not going to be the absolute best odds of conception, but it will work out for me eventually.