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    What next??

    After yet another BFN, and a trip to the doctor for a health check, I have been told that there don't seem to be any obvious issues, but I've been advised to take a pre natal multi vitamin, and to have sex at least every other day, and ideally every day around ovulation.

    I'm feeling very torn over what to do now, feeling like I'm going to end up with no baby or a boy baby!

    Any advice please?

    Although I'm eating less, around 1500 calories a day, I think I'm eating fairly healthily. I was overweight but have lost 30lb in weight and am now in healthy range.
    I'm following LE diet loosely but I'm not super strict.

    So far we've had 2 attempts in the fertile window, or BD'd every 3 days.
    If we BD'd every other day, would that be 2 attempts? Would that be really bad for a pink sway? I guess every day would definitely sway blue?

    Very grateful for any thoughts or advice!

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    First of all, they tell you to take prenatals because it's something easy that they can do. NOT because the lack of prenatals is preventing you from conceiving. Most people did not even take prenatals like 30-40 years ago and it's really not this mandatory thing they way they make it sound. If you're really concerned about it you can take them 2-3 times a week but I can all but guarantee you that the reason you have not gotten pg has nothing to do with prenatals.

    Re DTD every other day, yeah, that will give you better odds of conception but much higher odds of blue. I would personally keep doing what you've been doing and just wait for "Goldie the Golden Egg". IT takes fully fertile couples doing nothing to sway 3-6 months to get pregnant when they are trying, and it is often just a waiting game - you'll get pg in 6 months doing everything to up fertility, and a half a year doing nothing.

    Every other day may even be WORSE than every day because it gives your husband's sperm time to rebuild in between go-rounds. I really, really do not recommend you guys DTD every other day.
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    Don't take prenatals and stick with every 3 days, no more often. I'd stay strict on the diet as it is the number one sway factor, IMO. I very much agree with atomic that it's just a matter of time, and even young couples have swayed for 6 months, a year, even longer before conceiving their daughters! It is frustrating, I know, to see BFN month after month, but stay strong - your egg will come.

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    I second what Maiden and atomic said, I would keep up what you are doing and not give up! I also wouldn't take prenatals because they really don't help with conception. Is lack of EWCM a problem? I know some pink swaying ladies have added in preseed (even though it might sway a little blue) to help them conceive if that's an issue.
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    Thankyou so much for your responses and understanding.

    It is very frustrating getting BFN's every month, and also difficult because DH is blaming it on not BD'ing enough. He's not into swaying, and although he has gone along with it all so far, it's starting to cause problems.
    I'm also finding it much harder to stick to the diet as time goes on.

    Is it different BD'ing every other day compared to every 4 days with an attempt at positive OPK, if positive falls 2 days after last BD?
    I was thinking that every other day is still only 2 attempts over the 4 day fertile window?

    Before I learned about swaying, I'm sure my odds of having a boy would have been about 80%.
    At this stage, I'd happily take any odds that favour girl, even if only by a little.

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    Thankyou so much for your responses and understanding.

    It is very frustrating getting BFN's every month, and also difficult because DH is blaming it on not BD'ing enough. He's not into swaying, and although he has gone along with it all so far, it's starting to cause problems.
    I'm also finding it much harder to stick to the diet as time goes on.

    Is it different BD'ing every other day compared to every 4 days with an attempt at positive OPK, if positive falls 2 days after last BD?
    I was thinking that every other day is still only 2 attempts over the 4 day fertile window?

    Before I learned about swaying, I'm sure my odds of having a boy would have been about 80%.
    At this stage, I'd happily take any odds that favour girl, even if only by a little.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sp4rkl3s View Post
    Thankyou so much for your responses and understanding.

    It is very frustrating getting BFN's every month, and also difficult because DH is blaming it on not BD'ing enough. He's not into swaying, and although he has gone along with it all so far, it's starting to cause problems.
    I'm also finding it much harder to stick to the diet as time goes on.

    Is it different BD'ing every other day compared to every 4 days with an attempt at positive OPK, if positive falls 2 days after last BD?
    I was thinking that every other day is still only 2 attempts over the 4 day fertile window?

    Before I learned about swaying, I'm sure my odds of having a boy would have been about 80%.
    At this stage, I'd happily take any odds that favour girl, even if only by a little.
    It could be as many as three attempts in fertile window if you have an attempt O-4, O-2, and O day. But it's MORE THAN THAT. We just don't KNOW what is swaying and it seems to be that having DH regularly release, AND having regular, frequent exposure to the hormones in his semen, AND also having 2-3 attempts in fertile window are like a perfect storm that may end up swaying strongly blue. It's not just about sheer number of attempts, here.

    If you BD every 4 days plus one attempt at pos OPK, you can be assured it will be only 2 attempts in fertile window. I'd give that a try before DTD every other day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sp4rkl3s View Post
    Thankyou so much for your responses and understanding.

    It is very frustrating getting BFN's every month, and also difficult because DH is blaming it on not BD'ing enough. He's not into swaying, and although he has gone along with it all so far, it's starting to cause problems.
    I'm also finding it much harder to stick to the diet as time goes on.

    Is it different BD'ing every other day compared to every 4 days with an attempt at positive OPK, if positive falls 2 days after last BD?
    I was thinking that every other day is still only 2 attempts over the 4 day fertile window?

    Before I learned about swaying, I'm sure my odds of having a boy would have been about 80%.
    At this stage, I'd happily take any odds that favour girl, even if only by a little.
    Feeling your pain sp4rkl3s! I have been on the LE diet for around 10 months now and am on month 5 for swaying. DH thinks the "dtd every 4 days" is the issue and the sole reason why I have not conceived yet. I now feel torn as I am keen for baby no.2 but really want to up the odds for a girly. Can't wait to eat what I want, when I want too! Fingers crossed we both get our bfps soon!

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    Quote Originally Posted by popple View Post
    Feeling your pain sp4rkl3s! I have been on the LE diet for around 10 months now and am on month 5 for swaying. DH thinks the "dtd every 4 days" is the issue and the sole reason why I have not conceived yet. I now feel torn as I am keen for baby no.2 but really want to up the odds for a girly. Can't wait to eat what I want, when I want too! Fingers crossed we both get our bfps soon!
    Popple, I think it's important to keep the support of DH and lack of BD'ing certainly helping here! He won't use protection as he thinks that just silly when we are TTC, so I find myself trying to put off DTD when I can, and plan our attempts without making an issue of it. He gets very annoyed if he realises I'm trying to plan our sex life around swaying. I'm finding it all quite difficult.
    It's great to be able to pick and choose from most sway factors and I've tried some and dropped some.
    It seems that diet and fewer attempts though are essential to swaying pink.

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    Well, when it comes to DH, ya gotta do what ya gotta do and if it's a dealbreaker for him, then you have to do it because the cardinal rule of swaying is, "If daddy ain't happy, ain't nobody happy"
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