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    Is my sway rubbish?

    What is your decided sway?

    I think I'm going for more of a light sway, because I'm just worried about messing up ovulation.

    I just can't decide what's best to do though.

    I'm going to lose weight, but I'm gonna try to lose it in a healthier way as I don't really want to do too many things that will affect ovulation. I would like to lose a stone.

    I'm going to have 2 cups of peppermint tea a day AF - OV. I will take folic acid & maybe fiber.

    My husband is going to take LR & maybe OLE. I am a bit nervous about him taking it, because of the essay I read here on LR. But I "feel" it's important for him to make some changes too, as I do still think the sperm has a lot to do with it. He was going to give up caffeine, but I read on here that coffee can sway girl so he's switched his daily cups of tea to coffee.

    Now DTD...
    Correct me if I'm wrong, but I've gathered on here that abstaining isn't working anymore. So we will probably DTD with protection or he can FR & we will do a one attempt on OPK+ this makes me a bit nervous, as I did multiple attempts with my boys & I can't imagine doing just one attempt but we'll see... It took me 4/5 months to get pregnant with my boys. I will probably J&D after a few minutes. I may also take an antihistamine an hour before BD. My husband will probably have a hot bath beforehand too.

    Will make sure my PH stays at 4, I won't do it a lot though as I've heard too much can raise testosterone.

    I'm going to skip breakfast everyday. I won't eat red meant & limit chicken.

    My sway probably seems a bit rubbish but I feel a lighter sway is best for me. But after a couple of months of research, I have decided a "lighter sway" is better for me.

    If any of my info is wrong, please correct me & if you have any other suggestions please say.

    Thank you
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    I honestly wouldn't worry too much about pH. I would also do the peppermint tea a couple of days before ovulation. Remember a light sway you're still in with a good chance so the changes you've made with your cutting out on meat and cutting out breakfast is good. Just out if interest which antihistamines are you using? Good luck! x
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    abstain may help a little bit but it just doesn't get the results to justify the trouble it causes. same with FR though. If we did a study in like 1000 couples, I suspect we'd see that both abstain and FR might sway a little bit pink, but we have to balance it against the amount they cut odds of conception (a lot for some people), the difficulty/stress inherent in including them (considerable), and the amount of trouble it causes with DH (varies). Compare this to the one attempt which is getting outstanding and consistent results and there is just no comparison between the two. So why not just focus on that which is really swaying strongly (one attempt) and let go of the stuff which is overly complex/stressful and isn't working reliably?

    I promise you it is absolutely, completely, and totally possible to get pregnant from one attempt. There are tens to hundreds of millions of sperm in each ejaculation and it's more than enough to impregnante a small army of women!!

    pH of 4 is too low for pregnancy and is largely unattainable anyway.
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    Thank you both! Feel a lot happier with my sway now. I will definitely be doing the one attempt, so if we happen to dtd before we'll use protection. Is jump & dump good after five minutes or so...or not at all? And do I dtd once I've had a strong postive on OPK? Haven't used them before.

    Once again...THANK YOU!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by bunnywabbit View Post
    I honestly wouldn't worry too much about pH. I would also do the peppermint tea a couple of days before ovulation. Remember a light sway you're still in with a good chance so the changes you've made with your cutting out on meat and cutting out breakfast is good. Just out if interest which antihistamines are you using? Good luck! x
    I haven't started TTC yet so I haven't looked into antihistamines. I read it can dry up CM before DTD & can increase chances of a girl. Having said that, im not sure if it's relatively safe? Anything, that's not pretty safe I worry about - hence the Licorice root...but I want my husband to do something & and he wants to too!
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    antihistamines prior to ovulation are perfectly safe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WISHING4AGIRL View Post
    Thank you both! Feel a lot happier with my sway now. I will definitely be doing the one attempt, so if we happen to dtd before we'll use protection. Is jump & dump good after five minutes or so...or not at all? And do I dtd once I've had a strong postive on OPK? Haven't used them before.

    Once again...THANK YOU!!
    DTD at first positive even if you have a darker one later on.

    JUmp and dump is at your discretion. Some do it right away and others wait 15-30 min. I came up with the 5 min. as a compromise between conception and still swaying pink.
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    If you want the strongest pink sway without risk of affecting or losing O, I recommend you do the LE diet - vegetarian, and strictly in terms of keeping protein and ESPECIALLY fat low, but eat just enough cals that you maintain your weight. I'd avoid the pep tea as that can screw with O and isn't nearly as strong a sway tactic as diet. As for BD, maybe BD every 4 days is a better option than just once at positive OPK. I'd only use antihistamines if you have lots of EWCM on BD days.

    I know dieting sucks, but it IS the strongest sway factor and as tempting as it is to just do the easy tactics (like supplements, pep tea, BD, antihistamines etc), those sways are less effective. So while I wouldn't call your sway rubbish, I do urge you to focus on the diet - low protein/fat & high carb and no snacking, along with skipping breakfast. Weight loss isn't necessary for a pink sway, it's what and how you eat that is essential IMO.

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    Dec 2001 - May 2006 : 5 early abortions of healthy singletons (3 medical @5w, 2 surgical @8w, last 4 pregnancies conceived with late DH, all conceived while TTA/on birth control)
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    Me: 34, widowed, late O + short LP, normal-good hormone levels excepting undetectable testosterone, seeking a known sperm donor/life partner
    My sway: vegetarian LE for over 28w, skipping breakfast, fibre (ground psyllium husks) with/before/between meals, physically inactive, drama avoidance, ocassional minimal YesBaby lube as needed, alternate cycles on low dose Clomid, double shot lattes (with meals)
    Past sway tactics I've dropped (in order): Vitex, Sudafed, antihistamines, intermittent fasting, one attempt per cycle at positive OPK, one attempt in fertile period

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    I was worried the diet would affect ovulation. I'm just worried about messing up ovulation as it takes me 4/5 months to get pregnant anyway, which I know really isn't that long. But with swaying, it could add on months & months, and although I really want a girl I also want a baby. I can't decide what to do... If one attempt is getting the best results maybe I should stick to that. Maybe I'd have got pregnant quicker before if I had use OPK & knew when I ovulated, or maybe a one attempt could take even longer!!

    And what about DH... Should he do the LR or OLE or both??!
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    I want to lose some weight regardless. I'm 11st atm and would like to be 10st before getting pregnant as I don't want added baby weight to what I am now...not that I'm big, I'm a slim size 12 (although some might that is big) - but would prefer to be 10st before pregnancy.
    Two beautiful boys, who I love to the moon & back!

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