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    Any advice on conceiving please?

    Feeling sad after another BFN. Been TTC a long time and have relaxed my sway a lot.. dropped everything except diet, and have had plenty of cheats too!
    I've had blood tests for sugar levels and thiroid and both OK.
    I'd love a girl, but desperate for any baby now.
    I know there are lots of knowledgeable and experienced people here.. Any advice please!?
    Last edited by Sp4rkl3s; January 20th, 2015 at 12:56 PM.

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    Has husband had a sperm analysis (forgive me if I should already know the answer to this)

    We have had several people not get pg and think it was swaying, only to find out their husband had developed male factor infertility.

    Next step is SMEP and/or Preseed and/or Robitussin/Mucinex.

    If you haven't already, add in one serv. full fat dairy every day, 4-6 eggs a week and one serving salmon per week.

    ARe you taking coq10 and zinc?
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    We have an almost 2 year old boy and had a chemical pregnancy 8 months ago, so doctor said sperm tests weren't necessary. I only had one appointment with GP who said if my blood test results were fine then we should just keep trying without any further testing for me or DH.

    We did SMEP last month, and will continue with that.

    I think my CM seems OK so hadn't considered preseed.. Is it for if you don't have enough CM? I haven't heard of the others.

    I've been avoiding full fat dairy, eggs and Salmon, but I can add.

    I'm only taking folic acid.
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    How often are you making an attempt? Ie once at opk or every 4 days? If it's once at opk you might benefit from trying every 4 days, we ended up moving to every 3 days but we were using clomid and pregnant was more important but if timing is out slightly with opks you could miss tht window.
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    Sperm tests are necessary. 110% necessary. Anything can change in 3 years!

    If your CM seems ok, it's fine to hold off on the Preseed and Robi/Muci (it's a medication that may help make more and better CM)
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    I sooooo agree with Atomic. Don't let them fob you off! Especially for a semen analysis that is so non invasive. If you must, fib and say you've been trying a year.

    Hubby can also take Fertil-aid for Men or GNC men's fertility vit, it can only help.
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    Thanks.
    We have our DS, but also had a positive pg test 8 months ago but I started bleeding the next day, so the doctor thinks sperm must be OK to have fertilised the egg then.. I'll book to go back though and see if I can find out any more.
    Do I get coq10 and zinc separately? They improve fertility?
    Is it best to take these instead of a multivitamin?

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    CoQ10 improves egg quality for you but it does take 3 months+ to help. I take the Weber ones from Walmart, cheapest I've found, and I take 2 x 400mg capsules a day. You need at least 400mg to be effective unless you're taking ubuiquinol which is a more concentrated form (but really expensive!)

    It doesn't replace a multivitamin, no. Your multi doesn't have CoQ10 in it anyways.

    DH can take CoQ10 (just one capsule a day) and zinc to improve sperm health, and again it doesn't replace his multi. The Fertil-aid for men vits DO replace a multi though.

    I don't get why your doc would refuse to let you test DH's sperm if you're asking for it! More information is never a bad thing to have, and why not find out to rule out any issues at the very least?
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    FET attempt #1 (Nov 2014) - cancelled due to functional cyst. FET attempt #2 (Jan 30, 2015) - NT. Remaining embie failed to thaw.

    May 2015 - started infertility treatments at OFC. Femara 2.5mg
    July 2015 - BFP after second round of Femara. Aug 4 2015 - 6w4d
    Dec 21 2015 - mmc 7w1d

    Apr 2016 - IVF Cycle #2. Converted to IUI because of uneven response and leading follicles.
    Apr 19, 2016 - IUI with 3 mature follicles (2 right, 1 left), post wash: 17mil, 94% motility and 89% rapid motility. BFN.

    June 3, 2016 - 5mg Femara cycle. 5w.
    Sep 1, 2016 - 5mg Femara cycle. 8w.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sp4rkl3s View Post
    Thanks.
    We have our DS, but also had a positive pg test 8 months ago but I started bleeding the next day, so the doctor thinks sperm must be OK to have fertilised the egg then.. I'll book to go back though and see if I can find out any more.
    Do I get coq10 and zinc separately? They improve fertility?
    Is it best to take these instead of a multivitamin?
    Your doctor is WRONG. I'm sorry to be so bold about it but s/he is absolutely, completely, totally and utterly wrong on this. If your husband had very low sperm count, occasionally a viable sperm could still be made, male fertility is not all or nothing. If his sperm are not healthy, it could account for the chemical. For all you know he has had poor sperm quality all along and you just got lucky when you got your son.

    Is this an OBGYN or a GP??
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    Should I take a multivitamin too, or just coq10 and zinc, or is zinc just for DH?

    I wasn't sure who medically to talk to about taking so long to conceive, so I booked an appointment with my GP who only recommended blood tests for blood sugar levels and thiroid. I phoned to get results and was told all ok and no further tests or appointments would be necessary, so I guess she thinks we should just keep trying!

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