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    Quote Originally Posted by maidentomother View Post
    Most drs don't think much of charting. I think you just need to tell them how short your cycles are. So you could bring your charts in just to demonstrate that. Plus cycle length is really all you've been tracking most months anyway.
    I agree, and I would show her the ones you do have and just say you brought in a few to show her if she is interested. That should be enough. FX and GL that something productive comes if this for you! I can only imagine how frustrated you feel!!


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    Right, I guess that's what I meant is that id like to say I've been temping longer than I have to verify that I have actually not been O'ing.
    I guess I'll say that I have been actively TTC for longer....

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    Any decent obgyn should be able to realize you're unlikely to be Oing every month with such short cycles, even if they are totally skeptical of chaŕting. And if you DO get a dr who understands charting, all the better, as they will (likely) draw the same conclusion from your temps.

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    Dec 2001 - May 2006 : 5 early abortions of healthy singletons (3 medical @5w, 2 surgical @8w, last 4 pregnancies conceived with late DH, all conceived while TTA/on birth control)
    Mar 2012: miscarried B/G twins @5w (conceived 2 cycles after remověng Paraguard copper IUD while NTNP), one twin was ovarian ectopic

    Me: 34, widowed, late O + short LP, normal-good hormone levels excepting undetectable testosterone, seeking a known sperm donor/life partner
    My sway: vegetarian LE for over 28w, skipping breakfast, fibre (ground psyllium husks) with/before/between meals, physically inactive, drama avoidance, ocassional minimal YesBaby lube as needed, alternate cycles on low dose Clomid, double shot lattes (with meals)
    Past sway tactics I've dropped (in order): Vitex, Sudafed, antihistamines, intermittent fasting, one attempt per cycle at positive OPK, one attempt in fertile period

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    Quote Originally Posted by mysweetboys View Post
    Thanks all...

    Maiden, I occasionally have one that is 25-26 days long, and those are my long ones. The shortest was 16 days, only once, but usually they are between 18-21.
    This last cycle was 19. No +opk, and a temp shift indicating possible O at cd15, but I was also sick, so not sure if I did O or not. No O pains, which are usually very noticeable for me.
    That isn't normal and needs to be checked out and treated no matter what. Any doctor who doesn't take 18 day cycles as a reason for investigation - get a new doctor. You shouldn't need to temp/chart to get a doc's attention for cycles that are 18-21 days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mysweetboys View Post
    Right, I guess that's what I meant is that id like to say I've been temping longer than I have to verify that I have actually not been O'ing.
    I guess I'll say that I have been actively TTC for longer....
    If you go into your doc's office and tell them you are having 18 day cycles and they do not take you seriously at your word, you need a new doctor. you do NOT NEED to be temping. Your doctor needs to take your word for that and treat it because it needs to be treated. PLEASE don't hold off seeing a doctor to try and accumulate temp charts, it's not at all necessary and most people never chart and are still treated by their doctors.
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    Quote Originally Posted by maidentomother View Post
    I responded in your other thread. I definitely think you are having some anov cycles after looking at your charts. I think your LP is fine most likely when you do O based on the ovulatory cycle you temped. But still, you should be on a med to help you O every cycle.

    Femara does sway pink also, Lace! I think not QUITE as much as clomid but still good.
    Femara was just shown in one study to actually be BETTER than Clomid, which is interesting to me because we assumed some stuff about how Clomid was swaying that may not be the case!
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    Yep, I can't imagine any dr NOT realizing immediately there's a problem with such short cycles. And you've been having them regularly for quite a while. It will be very obvious and you will get testing/and or treatment for sure.

    HOW much better was femara in this study? I do agree that it suggests more than just the lack of EWCM/fertile CM turning creamy swaying, as with clomid. I always thought there was more to clomid swaying anyway, simply bc of how strongly it appears to sway. If it were just CM we'd see better results from antihistamines, I'd think. But I find it hard to believe femara sways stronger bc it doesn't usually affect CM as much.

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    TTC #1 - swaying pink on & off since Nov 2013 - hoping for a girl first but excited for either!

    Dec 2001 - May 2006 : 5 early abortions of healthy singletons (3 medical @5w, 2 surgical @8w, last 4 pregnancies conceived with late DH, all conceived while TTA/on birth control)
    Mar 2012: miscarried B/G twins @5w (conceived 2 cycles after remověng Paraguard copper IUD while NTNP), one twin was ovarian ectopic

    Me: 34, widowed, late O + short LP, normal-good hormone levels excepting undetectable testosterone, seeking a known sperm donor/life partner
    My sway: vegetarian LE for over 28w, skipping breakfast, fibre (ground psyllium husks) with/before/between meals, physically inactive, drama avoidance, ocassional minimal YesBaby lube as needed, alternate cycles on low dose Clomid, double shot lattes (with meals)
    Past sway tactics I've dropped (in order): Vitex, Sudafed, antihistamines, intermittent fasting, one attempt per cycle at positive OPK, one attempt in fertile period

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    I read that study. It was a lot better! I was wondering if we had seen that here.
    Are there GDers who have used Femara?

    That study is linked in a thread called something like "Femara sways big and now I'm scared"

    I'm on my phone and not sure how to find and link it or I would.

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    That gives me some place to start searching, thanks mysweetboys!

    My Ovulation Chart
    currently TTC, Cycle #16 since last BFP

    TTC #1 - swaying pink on & off since Nov 2013 - hoping for a girl first but excited for either!

    Dec 2001 - May 2006 : 5 early abortions of healthy singletons (3 medical @5w, 2 surgical @8w, last 4 pregnancies conceived with late DH, all conceived while TTA/on birth control)
    Mar 2012: miscarried B/G twins @5w (conceived 2 cycles after remověng Paraguard copper IUD while NTNP), one twin was ovarian ectopic

    Me: 34, widowed, late O + short LP, normal-good hormone levels excepting undetectable testosterone, seeking a known sperm donor/life partner
    My sway: vegetarian LE for over 28w, skipping breakfast, fibre (ground psyllium husks) with/before/between meals, physically inactive, drama avoidance, ocassional minimal YesBaby lube as needed, alternate cycles on low dose Clomid, double shot lattes (with meals)
    Past sway tactics I've dropped (in order): Vitex, Sudafed, antihistamines, intermittent fasting, one attempt per cycle at positive OPK, one attempt in fertile period

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    Did you find it? Or anything else?

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