February 2WW

[XXforhubby]

AFM- AF should start later today or tomorrow most likely. We will probably keep BDing every 3-4 days and continue for a few more attempts after temp rise. I was expecting this cycle to be wonky, since this is the first cycle after DS2 stopped BFing. I'll let my acupuncturist know about this cycle to see if things need tweaking. I bet it is just from no longer BFing though.

See some of you in the March 2ww thread, and I'll follow the rest of you ladies in the due date thread [emoji4]!


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[sageviolet]

xx - Your chart looks so great! FX things turn out differently this cycle! lol at the March rabbits metaphor. Yes!

sweetlily - My apologies, I thought your signature meant you were expecting, but I see you are being optimistic? I'm glad you figured out the iodine! It's a shame they wouldn't test. I've heard so much about standard thyoid tests being inaccurate and needing to look at several components to get an accurate picture. I am still undecided about the classes. It's like I want to have that as an option if we can't get a bfp in the next couple of months, but I hate that they take so much time and money, and childcare is an issue for us. I know some of the teachers do distance learning, so I contacted one today to ask about prices for that.

taytum - I've tried guafenesin (used the Walgreen's brand 12 hour extended release tablets since I don't like the dyes and additives in Robatussin and Mucinex), and obviously it did not work for me. If anything, it made me even more watery, which is my problem already. I know it works for some ladies. It probably depends on the root nature of what the hold-up is in your body. Do I sound like I know a lot, lol? That's just what you end up sounding like after doing this stuff for a year!

emilee - Congrats and condolences! Wow, that's a lot going on in your life. FX he finds and even better job and you end up holding a pink bundle!

Sunbuny - Thanks, and *hugs*! See you in the March 2ww!

eleena - FX for you!

Maiden - Super! What do you think causes your big temp dip and lots of cm? I know chemically it's estrogen, but is there something you do? Do you think it's from the fasting?

Would you all like to see my latest research?
I found this lovely chart on meds that affect cm: http://www.gaithersburgfertilitycare.../NFP_Focus.pdf
And I was reading Wellness Mama and found this lovely gem about fertility: http://wellnessmama.com/1326/get-pregnant-naturally/
And if anyone is interested in her articles on supplements, here are those links, too:
Vitex http://wellnessmama.com/8314/vitex-herb-profile/
Maca http://wellnessmama.com/8254/maca-herb-profile/

[zillers]

Hello all, popping in quickly with a question. I was lazy swaying pink this cycle, but including the LE diet. At the moment I'm 10 dpo and still bfn. I know from elsewhere on the site that the recommendation is to stick with the LE diet during the 2ww. Well, I've finally caught the terrible bug DH has been fighting for almost 2 weeks and DS has had for 4-5 days. I can feel that if I keep up with the LE diet I won't get better in a decent time frame. Am I good to drop the LE diet for awhile, or should I deal with feeling like a dead dog for as long as possible so I maintain the LE diet and am possibly still half-way sick when TTC in March? Any guidance is greatly appreciated.

Good luck to all with sticky beans, either this cycle or the next to follow!

[XXforhubby]

Sage- loved the article on fertility! Thanks for doing research so I don't have to [emoji8][emoji170]!

Zillers- I hope you feel better soon! What is it about the LE diet that makes you feel you won't recover soon? Not eating meat? No snacking between meals? There are no forbidden foods (Except avoiding red meat as much as possible). If you do need to eat more small meals, that should be fine as long as you stay within the overall limits. If you have to stop, remember that a few days doesn't undermine all the work you have done previously. I hope you get well soon!


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[SweetLily]

Wow that was a lot of reading to catch up on this morning!

Sage--great links! Thanks My lady does skype sessions, but she charges the same. Honestly, the course was NOT fun. they actually drill you on a few questions, including the right way to test cm (its on the TP by the way, with a fingertip. Eeew--I mean, Im not squeamish, but I dont want to talk to someone about that...as for me I dont get enough cm to test that way and go against all their teachings by testing inside...LOL) In any case, make sure you have privacy cause my lady asked things that I was actually embarrassed to discuss in front of dh and we talk about everything except our BM's!!!!

Emilee, CONGRATS on that gorgeous BFP!!!! I always say, when its THE WORST POSSIBLE TIMING, you will get your bfp. I expect a BFP this month. DH will find a job, I am sure. Mine is away working for the first time in our 7 year relationship/marriage and coming home every 2 weeks, its not fun. We have invested everything we own in our business and have some huge sales pending, but we are riding it out waiting for the deals to close. And the deals take FOREVER...I might have something new to bring DH home for the next 4 months so fx to that! I hope your dh gets something too, and glad you causght that egg cause being a MAN he WOULD have called it off...and that brings me to the next posts I followed here...

As for DH's changing their minds (and I am sorry I forgot names, but there were a couple of you and I am groggy from antihistamines!) DH's ALWAYS change their minds! All the time! I have had a n on again off again ttc with our DD for the last 3 years, and many of the girls will remember that from back in the days of IG...I have been HERE since its inception. I just dont frequent sometimes out of frustration--over DH chaning is mind and calling it off (after months of diet hell) or because of my own body's lacks of cooperation and having chemical after chemical. I get pregnancy just long enough to get 3 days of bfps and then they go back to bfn. SO maddening! I wish someone could just figure it out already! Dhs want perfect timing or they tend to bail. they get cold feet and freak out. They don;t understand that there really never is an ideal time in most ppls lives (Ok, I have known a few who were truly ready on every level, but they are few and far between!). Hugs to you.

Maiden, that chart is looking good. what a temp drop, I have never seen one of mine fall so low like that. I hope you catch your egg this month.

AFM, I can suddenly smell everything and he scent of the dogs makes me want to barf (no kidding...) and I even had to make DS change his pjs when he came to bed last night cause they smelled yucky straight out of the laundry. Gotta rewash that load! Eek. So like I said, this should be my month according to my theories in life, cause there could not be a worse month at all than now! I have 4 kids, I know all about the luck of timing. IN FACT, I was so desperate to get KU with DD that I threw all my maternity clothes out from my previous (ok, I think I donated them but anyway) and sure enough THAT MONTH I got my bfp after months of trying. All my other kids were OHW while USING bc! And with DS1, I honestly got pregnant the month I went out and bought a whole new wardrobe, and couldt wear those clothes again for a year. LOL.

Well, sorry for the bfns on here, I hope you guys catch your eggs soon. FX to sticky beans and bfps!

[zillers]

XX, the low protein, low fat, and skipping breakfast. All conspire to keep my blood sugar low, which is obviously the point. Being sick I crave calories with staying power like protein and fat, and when my blood sugar dips, especially in the morning, I get quite dizzy.

[XXforhubby]

XX, the low protein, low fat, and skipping breakfast. All conspire to keep my blood sugar low, which is obviously the point. Being sick I crave calories with staying power like protein and fat, and when my blood sugar dips, especially in the morning, I get quite dizzy.

Me too. I have an overnight fast of 16+ hours. My last meal is around 5:30pm-6:30pm, and I have my first meal around 9:30-11:00 most days. This helps me a lot. I have 3 small-average meals a day. As long as you have a big overnight fast and another small fast between lunch and dinner (for me 5-6 hours), this should help a lot. I have hypoglycemia and this allows me to do the LE diet without crashing!

You may need to switch to longer acting carbs like whole grains, unless you are gluten intolerant. This helps prevent the huge crash after meals, but you still get your blood sugar low before the next meal.

Also, have the upper limits of protein and fat right now- 50grams protein 60grams fat. That should help your cravings while not going over board. When you're sick, this is a good time to plan a few cheats!
Hope this helps!


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[Junie]

Maiden- I forgot to tell you I liked the book but didn't like the love triangle. I'm reading a book by Grace Draven now and enjoying it, have you read any of hers? I read one once before and liked it.

[maidentomother]

zillers, I wouldn't go off the LE bc you are sick. Just have lots of soups and fluids - totally LE friendly!

Junie, XX, sage and sweetlily, thank you! I'm not fasting anymore. The first week if this cycle I was alternating 1000 & 2000 cal days, and then the past few days I've been eating around 1500 daily. I decided based on my recent short LPs and extra light AFs I didn't want to risk losing more weight. My temp almost always drops down to 97.3-5 at one point, and then I O 2-6 days later usually (if I'm not on any supps). But usually my temps drop to around 97.7-8 for a few days before dropping to their lowest point. This month the drop is bigger and earlier. But it's also just a crazy cycle bc I've had fertile CM on and off since CD2!

Unfortunately I have not been able to BD yet and I could O as soon as tomorrow. I've actually been really horny too for me. But either DF pisses me off (I can't have sex with a man I'm angry/annoyed with, it's my biggest turn off) or else he has excuses. Which then annoys me, grr. Plus no girl likes to feel rejected. Oh and just coming onto him doesn't work, but he complains I'm too clinical when I tell him we need to BD? I even went off my pain meds this am so I'd have a chance at orgasming but now I'm in major pain bc I waited so long.

[Junie]

Maiden- maybe tonight?