Odds of having boys, girls, mixed gender family- old statistics thread by lindi

[SpicyTunaSushi]

Just chiming in, in my case, we are team green (sometimes I am dying to know, sometimes I don't care) for a blue sway. The boy stats are good (there are 2 opposites that aren't listed I have tried asking to add, but haven't been added). But, at this point, since 2014 conceptions are done, if I get a boy, then the stats would be 76%. There are about 4-5 unknowns right now, and 3 of those are people who never reported back.

I just feel like my chances are low (even though I think I had a strong sway) since there must be some opposites. Can someone encourage me from this logic? It's hard to believe I'll be the one to get a boy because so many others have already in the 2014.

[nuthinbutpink]

Just chiming in, in my case, we are team green (sometimes I am dying to know, sometimes I don't care) for a blue sway. The boy stats are good (there are 2 opposites that aren't listed I have tried asking to add, but haven't been added). But, at this point, since 2014 conceptions are done, if I get a boy, then the stats would be 76%. There are about 4-5 unknowns right now, and 3 of those are people who never reported back.

I just feel like my chances are low (even though I think I had a strong sway) since there must be some opposites. Can someone encourage me from this logic? It's hard to believe I'll be the one to get a boy because so many others have already in the 2014.

PM me with the opposites and I will get them added. Thanks

[nuthinbutpink]

A coin toss isn't even 50/50. Gender certainly isn't.

[atomic sagebrush]

Just chiming in, in my case, we are team green (sometimes I am dying to know, sometimes I don't care) for a blue sway. The boy stats are good (there are 2 opposites that aren't listed I have tried asking to add, but haven't been added). But, at this point, since 2014 conceptions are done, if I get a boy, then the stats would be 76%. There are about 4-5 unknowns right now, and 3 of those are people who never reported back.

I just feel like my chances are low (even though I think I had a strong sway) since there must be some opposites. Can someone encourage me from this logic? It's hard to believe I'll be the one to get a boy because so many others have already in the 2014.

I will add them to the 2014 thread (was hoping someone else would and save me the time but I"ll do it) http://genderdreaming.com/forum/add-...we-having.html but we cannot add them to the spreadsheet if they didn't fill out the paperwork. I know it's a namby-pamby BS way of doing things but it has to be that way or else we are not keeping accurate stats.

FWIW I think you are putting WAYYY too much stress on these (as you point out) totally self-reported numbers - although I must mention that while they were self-reported, the vast majority of them had their name up on the list BEFORE they found out gender so not as self-reported as all that. There are several people who swayed privately, heard blue, and have not posted their data. Many blue swayers in particular want to maintain their privacy. I think the numbers in the 2014 thread are quite representative of what you can expect.

What is not represented in the stats and what I HATE to even mention, because I hate to even play that game but I feel like I have to point it out here, is that some of the people who have gotten opposites (not necessarily in the 2014 thread, but just overall with my Custom Sways) are people who had some kind of complicating factor such as smoking by DH, male-factor infertility, had trouble getting pregnant, and so on. There is always more going on behind the scenes than you guys can see on your end and I just want to mention again that no one is more motivated than me at getting the highest number of ladies their DG as safe and fast as possible. I don't want to be "right", I want you guys to get your DG, and there are times when focusing on the stats is not helpful or conducive to gleaning the most accurate info. If someone told me tomorrow wth reliable scientific evidence that cranberries were a magic blue bullet I'd be having everyone eat cranberries - even if it made me look like a total a-hole LOL.

[atomic sagebrush]

I only saw one blue sway opposite that had not been added to the 2014 thread (the other two you mentioned had been added) I added that, and then realized that a blue sway success from yesterday also had not been added - net result, no change in %.

I really think the numbers in the 2014 thread are pretty indicative of what the chances are.

[atomic sagebrush]

Adding the link for anyone who is now confused. http://genderdreaming.com/forum/add-...we-having.html

[nuthinbutpink]

We keep the stats to become aware of trends- too much calcium sways boy, frequency sways more than timing, etc. The stats show our advice works!! We show that if you change your lifestyle, follow our strategy, you CAN sway your odds. You'll never be able to compare the results by individual because everyone is starting from a different place! No two people are alike thus no two sways can be alike.

Hope is not a strategy. Our plans have a very specific, scientific strategy and they work. If you are looking for 100%, go HT.

[atomic sagebrush]

EXACTLY! I sometimes feel like people use the stats against us as if we're in a court of law but honestly, the reason we keep them is for the overall trends and NOT the success rates - because the truth is, those of us on this site are very very very likely coming into TTC with much WORSE odds at our DG than the average person walking around out there. In that case, those of us with 3-4-5 B or G to start out with - 50-50 would actually be AN IMPROVEMENT. AFter I got 4 boys over the course of 20 years I was like, heck, I'll TAKE 50-50 and the coin flip at that point, because it's way better than what I probably had to start out with, YK??

Eventually every one of us, if we were to "Duggar it out" would get an opposite doing nothing at all. All we are trying to do with swaying, is make that happen a little sooner instead of a little later, because there are families like this out there (or their female equivalent) The Arndt Family Going from 80% likely to have a girl or boy to 50% likely is STILL an improvement. That we are getting about 75% for boys, 65% for girls, with a pretty safe and easy set of sway tactics, and this number has stayed pretty consistent over time, is HUGE!!

[belleboi]

Just chiming in, in my case, we are team green (sometimes I am dying to know, sometimes I don't care) for a blue sway. The boy stats are good (there are 2 opposites that aren't listed I have tried asking to add, but haven't been added). But, at this point, since 2014 conceptions are done, if I get a boy, then the stats would be 76%. There are about 4-5 unknowns right now, and 3 of those are people who never reported back.

I just feel like my chances are low (even though I think I had a strong sway) since there must be some opposites. Can someone encourage me from this logic? It's hard to believe I'll be the one to get a boy because so many others have already in the 2014.

You know I was right there with you a few weeks ago. I had seen blue swayer after blue swayer get their boys and thought to myself, there is NO way I can get mine as well if everyone else got theirs. It's flawed logic, but sometimes we can't help the way we feel.

FWIW, I do have a little boy in there now, and I think you can too. We aren't "going against" anyone else. We swayed, sometimes heavily, sometimes mildly and that only affects our own chance, not any one else's. I know it's easy for me to say that now that I know...but just to reiterate, I know EXACTLY how you feel. big hugs!

[SpicyTunaSushi]

Thanks belleboi. I am so glad you got your little man! And, I was thinking of you and there is one other DGer that has expressed these same thoughts (pretty sure I have seen a pink swayer say the same thing recently but I don't know them as well so can't recall who).

Atomic- I think it is helpful to have this discussion and helpful that you emphasize that it is for trends and not for exact stats. I have participated in studies before and they are so desperate for people to commit all the way through, no matter what the results, to get good data. I don't want to get into a debate about the accuracy of the stats, but since we are approaching the end of the 2014 swayers, it creates this artificial deadline that a certain number of successes (and opposites) should be achieved by the end of the year. If I had results coming in February 15, then there is less pressure, because you think it could balance out by Dec 15. If I looked at dates between (and I won't obsess and do this) July 2013- July 2014, I might see a slightly lower or higher number than 75%, but, they do show overall trends, esp with those who have multiple of one gender.

I do think that the TW theory makes so much sense and is founded in evolutionary science and that is why I am here. Also, following HE tactics made me more fertile (loads of ewcm), higher drive, and easy conceptions. IG just seems like a compilation of OWTs (I've done an IG sway too and felt sick and took 3 cycles to conceive- my longest ever).

I don't want to be obsessive which is why Team Green is hard. I wish my DH wanted to know that way I could just be content with the outcome. I think I'll use this thread and conversation to rest the case and watch the outcome.