Atomic! Balance Activ?

[rainbowflower]

that and Conceive Plus perhaps!

[zanacal]

Atomic - I'm completely lost in science here but I *think* glycogen has something to do with blood sugars? Is this relevant if you're squirting glycogen up your whatsit and you want your blood sugar levels to be low?!

Thanks x

[rainbowflower]

you could always squirt it up there at mealtimes lol

[zanacal]

Lol - I'm sure it's a silly question!!

[zanacal]

This post has become a bit of a monster! I see there are several vaginal gels designed to help with BV and with a low pH - Balance Activ, Gynofit, Bio-Fem Active Gel (in the UK) .... as well as Rephresh (and Replens to a lesser extent because that's meant as a moisturiser, though there are more of them too!). Rephresh and Replens seem to be the only ones which say they're ok to use when ttc, the others all say not to use either because the gel affects the motility of the sperm or because the pH is too low for the sperm. Is that why Rephresh and Replens are the ones chosen by swayers? Does anybody know whether any of the other products have been considered and, if so, why they were discounted? I saw a thread on IG which said Balance Activ is no good because it's not got acetic acid in it (it has lactic acid), however Aci-jel is the only product which does - Rephresh and Replens don't either and they seem to be acceptable! I wish I hadn't started looking at this so close to my sway. If only I hadn't tried out the Balance Activ and discovered that I can make a pH stick turn orange!!

[rainbowflower]

when's Atomic around next? hope she can answer the questions too

[zanacal]

Tomorrow I think, I'm sure she'll help me to decide! I just read this very cool (but rather old!) study about pH - there's some stuff in there about lowering the amount of seminal fluid by DTD lots too:

http://www.reproduction-online.org/c....full.pdf+html

[zanacal]

This actually makes me think that so long as my pH is reasonably low (which it may not be if I have EWCM but of course we're trying to limit that) and there isn't very much of DH's 'fluid' (because we've DTD frequently and maybe I've done a JAD) then using a gel with a very low pH might not be the best idea for getting pregnant - and the first scenario is surely how girls are 'usually' conceived (ie. without swaying).

[rainbowflower]

that's a good find - I think you're right. Frequent release with J&D seems like a good plan.... although perhaps RepHresh would further lower pH if you didn't want to J&D or if you hadn't done frequent release

[zanacal]

Oh my goodness, somebody shoot me, I'm driving myself crazy with this!! It's so odd because for ages I've had a 'plan' now suddenly I can't decide what to do!

I'm completely throwing the spermicidal condom idea out of the window now I've read so many things about people having allergies to Nonoxyl-9 and it causing yeast infections and UTIs if used more than a couple of times a month. I really don't want to risk that in the month of our attempt. 'Natural' spermicides like Contragel are based on lactic acid - the same as this Balance Activ BV treatment! Soooo, I'm now wondering (at least for the next few hours until I change my mind) about DTD every day without protection but using Balance Activ (as a spermicide after DTD) for the first 7 days. After that I'm thinking no gels so long as I don't have lots of EWCM (which hopefully I won't because I'll be taking an anti-h) and maybe just a touch of the lactic acid gel (as Aci-jel doesn't seem to lower my pH) if I find myself with lots of EWCM. If will probably do a JAD if I'm not using any gel.