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    Quote Originally Posted by maidentomother View Post
    Yep too much fat (TWICE as much as you should be eating!) AND nearly all of it is healthy blue fats (saturated + to a lesser extent monounsaturated fats). I also found reducing fat and switching to pink friendly fats to be the most difficult aspect. Pre-swaying I ate an extremely high fat diet almost completely consisting of blue friendly fats.

    Pink adjustments: for breakfast drink coffee black if possible, otherwise with the smallest amount of lowest cal fat free creamer you can find, for lunch just have toast with jam/jelly (no or minimal PB) & glass of skim milk or almond milk, for dinner use canola oil to sautee the veggies and less of it, and if you still need cals add a full sugar can of soda or glass of wine to one meal (fat free candy/baked goods and fruit are also good add-on options if you need more cals but have used up fat/protein for the day)

    Also, you should avoid fortified cereal like raisin bran. Too many vitamins which sway blue. Cereal like red meat is one of those big no nos.

    I also take fiber before any meal with substantial fat content.
    This is going to be torture. I cereal bc it's fast and meals are weird here. Same why eggs lol fast and easy. I'm having a hard time figuring out what to eat. I can't stand skim or almond milk, but I do like chocolate milk and it comes as 1%, maybe that's an option. Jam makes me gag unless it's on English muffins toasted with butter.
    I think I can switch to black coffee and treat myself with creams occasionally (like drive through coffees)
    Fat free baked goods sounds like something i could try to do; but having the 2 littles baking is tricky.
    For fibre are we talking Metamucil? Or is there something much easier and less nasty out now?


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    I thought up to 60 g of fat was allowed?

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    It depends on how many calories you are having.
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    You can look for un-fortified cereal (organic/bio cereal isn't fortified here in Europe) or make your own hot cereal using rice, couscous, bulgur/cracked wheat, corn grits, cream of wheat (basically any grain except oats) & add milk, sweetener, and fruit.

    Do you like rice or soy milk? Btw almond milk 15 years ago was gross and I'm still very picky about the brand, but I've found some more recent ones that are very tasty. In the US I loved Sylk brand almond milk.

    How about margarine on toast, or reduced fat or fat free cream cheese (whatever you can stand)? Low fat cottage cheese?

    In the US there are tons or packaged FF cookies/cakes, such as Snackwell's brand. Not sure about where you live. I am a huge baker but have never actually made FF baked goods lol. I do buy packaged ones for my sway. Less healthy, more pink.

    Fibre includes Metamucil, yes (that's ground psyllium husks, right? I use that myself but not brand name) but there are other fibres if you don't like that one, maybe capsules would be a better option than mix with liquid types? I have actually grown to enjoy my psyllium husk drinks, oddly enough!

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    Me: 34, widowed, late O + short LP, normal-good hormone levels excepting undetectable testosterone, seeking a known sperm donor/life partner
    My sway: vegetarian LE for over 28w, skipping breakfast, fibre (ground psyllium husks) with/before/between meals, physically inactive, drama avoidance, ocassional minimal YesBaby lube as needed, alternate cycles on low dose Clomid, double shot lattes (with meals)
    Past sway tactics I've dropped (in order): Vitex, Sudafed, antihistamines, intermittent fasting, one attempt per cycle at positive OPK, one attempt in fertile period

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    Quote Originally Posted by eleena2014 View Post
    It depends on how many calories you are having.
    Fat calories are meant to be 20-30% of your day's calories, as a general rule. This ends up to be about 25-60 g of fat (keeping in mind that people eat anywhere from 1200-2000 calories on pink sways). BUT, some people need to lower % of cals from carbs and increase cals from fat - on the alternate diets this is what people do. So for some people, they will be eating more fat than another person. A person who is having fertility issues needs more fat than others.

    PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE ladies, I know this thread is helpful but you need to do what is right FOR YOU and not any other person. Some people NEED more fat than others. Do not compare your diets to other people's, it isn't a competition.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitmebabyonemoretime View Post
    This is going to be torture. I cereal bc it's fast and meals are weird here. Same why eggs lol fast and easy. I'm having a hard time figuring out what to eat. I can't stand skim or almond milk, but I do like chocolate milk and it comes as 1%, maybe that's an option. Jam makes me gag unless it's on English muffins toasted with butter.
    I think I can switch to black coffee and treat myself with creams occasionally (like drive through coffees)
    Fat free baked goods sounds like something i could try to do; but having the 2 littles baking is tricky.
    For fibre are we talking Metamucil? Or is there something much easier and less nasty out now?


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    I always have coffee with coffeemate. I didn't think this counted as a meal?? But if it is, I always drink it after a 12-13 hr fast anyway.

    I miss cereal. but it is what it is. I eat some breakfast foods for lunch. Like today I had toaster strudels and a yogurt. Or I'll have an English muffin with margarine/butter and fruit.

    Lunch-usually after 16hr fast(unless my coffee counts??) is a bunch of random stuff. I am addicted to flavored rice cakes right now...they have ones that are flavored sugar & cinnamon. Yum! Lunch is my hardest meal because I have two picky littles at home so I always end up making three different plates but I did that before LE.
    Dinners-I make the family meat, starch, veggies. So, I eat the starch and veggie and I will heat up an extra veggie. Green giant has small ones in boxes that list weight watchers points on them(not that I do WW. Just explaining so you know what they look like)
    As for fiber, I use the Walmart brand fiber therapy pills. I take them before lunch and dinner because (TMI) I have chronic constipation.

    Also, I've tried some Amy's frozen food meals. Only one I really like are the pizzas. I don't eat them that often but they are great to have around when the family is eating a meal I can't pick around (like chili)

    Hope this helps and someone please correct anything that I said wrong


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    Hitme, I am at a loss why you're getting that much fat?? Are you sure that's accurate?

    Skim milk, less PB on PB sandwich, and less oil would help but I am not quite certain that info you have in your totals is right. Most people have the problem of too little fat, not too much.
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    Hitme, you can split your cals between meals however you like, so 1000 at one meal and 500 at another or even more/less is fine.

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    currently TTC, Cycle #16 since last BFP

    TTC #1 - swaying pink on & off since Nov 2013 - hoping for a girl first but excited for either!

    Dec 2001 - May 2006 : 5 early abortions of healthy singletons (3 medical @5w, 2 surgical @8w, last 4 pregnancies conceived with late DH, all conceived while TTA/on birth control)
    Mar 2012: miscarried B/G twins @5w (conceived 2 cycles after remověng Paraguard copper IUD while NTNP), one twin was ovarian ectopic

    Me: 34, widowed, late O + short LP, normal-good hormone levels excepting undetectable testosterone, seeking a known sperm donor/life partner
    My sway: vegetarian LE for over 28w, skipping breakfast, fibre (ground psyllium husks) with/before/between meals, physically inactive, drama avoidance, ocassional minimal YesBaby lube as needed, alternate cycles on low dose Clomid, double shot lattes (with meals)
    Past sway tactics I've dropped (in order): Vitex, Sudafed, antihistamines, intermittent fasting, one attempt per cycle at positive OPK, one attempt in fertile period

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    Quote Originally Posted by atomic sagebrush View Post
    Hitme, I am at a loss why you're getting that much fat?? Are you sure that's accurate?

    Skim milk, less PB on PB sandwich, and less oil would help but I am not quite certain that info you have in your totals is right. Most people have the problem of too little fat, not too much.
    Quite possible I aired on the side of caution and rounded up what I was eating (im not measuring Pb lol) and Ya I was for sure heavy on the olive oil that meal.


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    I know if I prepared those meals the fat content would be that hight at least!

    My Ovulation Chart
    currently TTC, Cycle #16 since last BFP

    TTC #1 - swaying pink on & off since Nov 2013 - hoping for a girl first but excited for either!

    Dec 2001 - May 2006 : 5 early abortions of healthy singletons (3 medical @5w, 2 surgical @8w, last 4 pregnancies conceived with late DH, all conceived while TTA/on birth control)
    Mar 2012: miscarried B/G twins @5w (conceived 2 cycles after remověng Paraguard copper IUD while NTNP), one twin was ovarian ectopic

    Me: 34, widowed, late O + short LP, normal-good hormone levels excepting undetectable testosterone, seeking a known sperm donor/life partner
    My sway: vegetarian LE for over 28w, skipping breakfast, fibre (ground psyllium husks) with/before/between meals, physically inactive, drama avoidance, ocassional minimal YesBaby lube as needed, alternate cycles on low dose Clomid, double shot lattes (with meals)
    Past sway tactics I've dropped (in order): Vitex, Sudafed, antihistamines, intermittent fasting, one attempt per cycle at positive OPK, one attempt in fertile period

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