where did "dtd every 4 days" come from?

[SpicyTunaSushi]

Also- regular BD raises T in both men and women (if Oing), so it isn't a bad idea to do every other day.

[LolaInLove]

Yes, it came from IG. The "best sway plan" there was to time it so DH had released 4 days before you Oed and to just dtd once on O day. However, it became a HUGE NIGHTMARE to try to time that. Who knows exactly when you'd O? I was like random luck when people would hit that magic formula. Anyway, ITA with everyone here, I think timing doesn't matter. But, my doc also said every 48 hours is ideal for count.

[gizmo77]

see i conceived both DD's while DTD everyday from the time i saw creamy till i saw scant cm. however for DD1, we dtd everyday until i had to fly overseas..so it was like 4 nights (including time change) before we were able to DTD again..but sadly i dont know when iactually conceived (most likely a sperm was waiting while i was flying). on day one of me being away from DH..i noticed huge hanging Ewcm..but still no way to tell when i conceived.

so bc we dtd'd everyday for both DDs, i dont want to do thatthis time defly. and i probably dont want even every other day...so im hoping every 3 days is okay. my concern right now is highest sperm count..not so much getting pg (bc it will be 1st try..if i dont get pg after a couple months then i guess i can up it)...? what do u guys think? 3 days too late? i dont want them to get stale!!

[Flava]

gizmo-Im sure 3 day is A ok! I read that even in IVF the say 2-4 days so 3 still just right don't worry.

I also will do 2 or 3 days well see...No way I would do every day but 2-3 it's ok. I never did this for any of my girls so hope it give me a boy!

[LolaInLove]

Giz, 3 days is fine, most men won't go stale, but it may take longer to get pg if you maybe miss the egg on the O day try, kwim? The older swimmers may be gone by then, but may not. That's the advantage to doing it every day or every other day, you have a higher chance of getting pg....which is what I'm aiming for now. I would try the every 3 days and see if it works!

[atomic sagebrush]

Geesh I'm sorry I thought I answered this already.

I want to say in IG's defense that they never made anything up, it's all based on real studies out there somewhere...now whether those studies are good ones or if they really mean what people have interpreted them to mean, is open for debate.

There are studies and articles in abundance on this topic and that is also what has been advised by everyone's RE's as well. I have and have read the study somewhere that found that DTD from 2-5 days apart with the highest numbers and motility at day 4 (but the increase really was not that high or that much so I think everyone should feel free to DTD anywhere from 2-4 days and feel good about it. 5 days is a little too long to my way of thinking.) But I can't find it for right now and it's not coming up when I Google it for some reason...sigh...

[atomic sagebrush]

It comes from IG guru and I don't think any studies back that up because then we would know about it by now right?Or atomic or someone else would have posted the studies here right?

Anyway I did it with the suppose to be awesome msu and no boy for me ...So Im doing the 2 days now for sure.

It is on here somewhere, I am sure of it.

[atomic sagebrush]

so 2-3 days okay, or is the general consensus 2?
i thought maybe id bump it to every 3 days for now if dh can handle it then on attemtpt week do it every 2 days...whtat do u guys think?
so confused

Every 2-4 days is fine and perfect for blue. There was a very small increase between every 2 days and every 4 and so IG took that and ran with it but I personally feel that every 2 days is just as good, maybe even better because I think it allows you to have 2 attempts in your fertile window and increase sperm numbers and also raise odds of pg. Of course that is where I and IG will part company, because they think timing is important and I think sperm numbers are important.

[atomic sagebrush]

gizmo-Im sure 3 day is A ok! I read that even in IVF the say 2-4 days so 3 still just right don't worry.

I also will do 2 or 3 days well see...No way I would do every day but 2-3 it's ok. I never did this for any of my girls so hope it give me a boy!

I totally agree and I think this is a great plan. 3 days is right in the wheelhouse of perfection for blue!!

[atomic sagebrush]

Yes, it came from IG. The "best sway plan" there was to time it so DH had released 4 days before you Oed and to just dtd once on O day. However, it became a HUGE NIGHTMARE to try to time that. Who knows exactly when you'd O? I was like random luck when people would hit that magic formula. Anyway, ITA with everyone here, I think timing doesn't matter. But, my doc also said every 48 hours is ideal for count.

I have heard a theory (this is not MY theory and I do not believe this to be true but I have heard it around often enough so I know some people believe this) that some members of IG actually prefer to have a really complicated-to-the-point-of-impossible sway so that it is very difficult to do it right and then they will not be blamed for opposites.

I suspect it's more that the natural tendency of humankind, when coming up with a system for doing something, is to try and include everything and to make everything "perfect" to the point of being undoable in the real world. Like when you try and make a chore chart for your kids to fill out and you end up including so much stuff that the kids simply can't do it all and you can't keep up with monitoring it all, then on the day that Cub Scouts meets and the baby is sick, everything all falls apart and it's just not possible to keep it up on a day to day basis. (or am I the only one who's ever done that?? )

Anyway, I think the gals on IG have always tried very hard to help come up with the perfect sway and make it as good as they can with the info that they believe in. But sometimes, good enough is good enough and it doesn't HAVE to be perfect. Trying to make it perfect only makes it impossible, KWIM ???