Re ions - I have explained this 1,000,000 times so sorry for being repetitive, but the ONLY reason why ions are doing anything is because people continue to use a little lavender lotion or wear their bracelet or lamps even after dropping tons of other sway tactics and being on diet a really long time, because they don't inhibit odds of conception.
TRUST ME, they do NOTHING. BAck on Ingender there were people who were ONLY using ions, and using way, way, way more ions than we are (putting ions in their underwear, using ion menstrual pads, 500 dollar ionizers, etc) for YEARS at a time. Use ions if you want to everyone but DO NOT rely on ions for anything at all because once people stop doing the things that really work, in favor of ions.
They literally CANNOT work for swaying because X and Y sperm have no electrical charge and also beccause it is biologically impossible. EVeryone's cervical mucus has certain ions in it because that is what cervical mucus is MADE OF and the ions that occur naturally in cervical mucus are, according to the theory blue friendly.
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June 16th, 2015, 11:40 AM #412
Yes, the stats can go up and down quite dramatically at times. That is why we have to look at the overall trends and NOT treat these numbers like they are
Personally, I have had overwhelmingly pink results from Custom Swayers the last couple months and again am confused by the numbers. I think some people don't update their stats or something. Take these numbers with a grain of salt.!!! Questions??Check out the NEW and improved Complete Index !!!
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June 16th, 2015, 11:41 AM #413
We also still need to separate out husbands taking cal-mag with wives taking it because there is NO WAY that IG Diet gets 40% and then the cal mag gets that high. Most people have ONLY their husbands taking it and the stats are confusing people.
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June 16th, 2015, 02:41 PM #414Big Dreamer
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It's separate in the spreadsheet. Only the numbers for the wife taking it are in the list. Not sure why Rainbow didn't add the husband's one to the list. Might be because only 5 people have listed it as being part of their sway and none of them had a girl. I can create an entry for it if you want to add it to the list.
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June 16th, 2015, 05:38 PM #415
LOL thanks atomic, I do remember you ranting about ionic underwear. An artifact makes the most sense but I do kinda believe in ions, when it comes to weather, waterfalls etc, I think they affect us slightly, though not necessarily swaying (and most likely not), and I don't believe in the painted nails or salt lamps.
Plus, even if ions DID sway, I'm sure it would be a mild effect and no guarantee, so even ionic underwear wouldn't be a magic bullet.
Mostly I'm just confused about how painting your nails or lavender scent or salt lamps have any ionic effect at all?
My Ovulation Chart currently TTC, Cycle #16 since last BFP
TTC #1- swaying pink on & off since Nov 2013 - hoping for a girl first but excited for either!
Dec 2001 - May 2006 : 5 early abortions of healthy singletons (3 medical @5w, 2 surgical @8w, last 4 pregnancies conceived with late DH, all conceived while TTA/on birth control)
Mar 2012: miscarried B/G twins @5w (conceived 2 cycles after remověng Paraguard copper IUD while NTNP), one twin was ovarian ectopic
Me: 34, widowed, late O + short LP, normal-good hormone levels excepting undetectable testosterone, seeking a known sperm donor/life partner
My sway: vegetarian LE for over 28w, skipping breakfast, fibre (ground psyllium husks) with/before/between meals, physically inactive, drama avoidance, ocassional minimal YesBaby lube as needed, alternate cycles on low dose Clomid, double shot lattes (with meals)
Past sway tactics I've dropped (in order): Vitex, Sudafed, antihistamines, intermittent fasting, one attempt per cycle at positive OPK, one attempt in fertile period
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June 17th, 2015, 12:43 PM #416
The theory is that the ions are on a mission to invade our vagina and somehow burrow their way up there. That they actually come from the moon and from fingernail polish remover and from salt lamps and somehow if you shoot enough of them at yourself they end up on a trajectory through your entire repro tract at such a high concentration that they can attract 100 million sperm any one of which is 100 million times larger than they are.
Ions are real things that actually exist and have thousands of functions in the human body, but I do not believe they sway gender if you bombard yourself with them. If it worked, X and Y sperm would have different electrical charges and they do not, and also sperm cells are SO HUGE compared to an ion that the idea that ions could attract or repel them is like trying to pull a jumbo jet along by having people stand in front of it with magnets. Plus, IF as the story goes, all the minerals and pH diet stuff is supposed to create the "right" kind of ions in CM, then bombarding oneself with the same type of ions wouldn't work anyway because like charges REPEL each other, not attract. Plus PLUS, if it really did work, then sending particles up the VJ from the outside could even make the sperm come back the WRONG way if the particles coming from outside were more highly concentrated than those emanating from the direction of the egg (same argument as to why pH can't work) If X sperm "love" something, whether it's low pH or negative ions, you'd want to NOT shove a bunch of them right inside the hoo-hah because that will attract the X sperm the wrong direction while the Y's go fleeing in terror towards the egg where they're less concentrated.!!! Questions??Check out the NEW and improved Complete Index !!!
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June 17th, 2015, 02:43 PM #417
The whole charged/polar egg-sperm attraction, which supposedly is why the mineral diet works as well as ions, is so very clearly complete BS, pulled out of thin air without any basis in evidence and just plain wrong/impossible, just like Shettles/timing and the pH 'theories'. There is a lady on FF who has 2 sons then like 4-5 daughters with a 3rd son somewhere in there, she claims to be a biologist and spouted that charged egg/sperm craziness at me, I didn't know whether to laugh, cry, or wish I could telekinetically crush all her fingers to prevent her endless raving about oldschool pink swaying! It just makes zero sense to anyone with even a basic high school understanding of chem/bio!
But my mother was the same way, despite all her degrees and knowledge she believed some of the nuttiest things (ex. Calcium is evil and causes cancer...bc some article in a new age magazine said so!). But she was also delusional & psychotic especially towards the end. Still, she always had this strange 'willful denial of logic'/'naive gullibility' and I see that a fair bit on other swaying sites, even here sometimes. Especially if the idea is too good or too bad to be true, it holds a strange appeal. And if just taking a pill fixes a complex issue miraculously, they're hooked. That whole magic bullet wishfulness.
Getting back to real science, I wonder if the effect of ions on mood could sway indirectly, in some people. That way seems at least possible, but likely mild in efficacy and not necessarily controllable.
My Ovulation Chart currently TTC, Cycle #16 since last BFP
TTC #1- swaying pink on & off since Nov 2013 - hoping for a girl first but excited for either!
Dec 2001 - May 2006 : 5 early abortions of healthy singletons (3 medical @5w, 2 surgical @8w, last 4 pregnancies conceived with late DH, all conceived while TTA/on birth control)
Mar 2012: miscarried B/G twins @5w (conceived 2 cycles after remověng Paraguard copper IUD while NTNP), one twin was ovarian ectopic
Me: 34, widowed, late O + short LP, normal-good hormone levels excepting undetectable testosterone, seeking a known sperm donor/life partner
My sway: vegetarian LE for over 28w, skipping breakfast, fibre (ground psyllium husks) with/before/between meals, physically inactive, drama avoidance, ocassional minimal YesBaby lube as needed, alternate cycles on low dose Clomid, double shot lattes (with meals)
Past sway tactics I've dropped (in order): Vitex, Sudafed, antihistamines, intermittent fasting, one attempt per cycle at positive OPK, one attempt in fertile period
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June 17th, 2015, 02:59 PM #418
I am completely confused as to how Temerity, Schlingel, Emilee Jane, Sister Please, Dutchgirl having TWIN girls, and Sunbuny all got girls with custom plans within the past two months since the last time the data was updated and the number of Custom Sway successes is identical at 54. Falling from 67.5% success to 60% success is NOT MESHING with what is being reported to me.
PEOPLE ARE NOT ADDING THEIR DATA TO THE STATS. That is totally cool not to add your data if you so choose, but PLEASE do not take these numbers that seriously. Sometimes, it's the people who got opposites and have a bee in their bonnet who are the most inclined to come back and update.
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June 17th, 2015, 04:51 PM #419Big Dreamer
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So the entry for dh cal+mag:
DH CAL+MAG
Total sways: 5
Total success: 0
Success %: 0
Inverse success %: 0
Not sure where in the list you want to put it.
I wonder how many people are missing that they need to add them? The number of twins hasn't gone up at all.
When I was adding old entries, I stopped adding entries from about 2 months prior to when I stopped to give people a chance to add their own. I wonder if I should go back and see if there's more I can add.Last edited by blueeyedguys; June 17th, 2015 at 04:55 PM.
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June 17th, 2015, 06:49 PM #420
If anyone who is so motivated or preggo wants to go back and add people that would be great. I don't want ANYONE to undermine any sway they are doing by updating stats if it may possibly, remotely sway blue.
All I know is that those people (plus a couple more who did not want to update until baby's birth) n the last 2 months since the data was updated by Rainbow, got girls with custom plans. But the number of custom plan success has not changed at all. So I know that the 60% cannot be accurate.
I really don't even CARE since I still think 60% is acceptible but I would love to know what the "real" numbers are, inasmuch as we ever can.
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